Dwight Howard asking Houston for more star power

[RJ87]

Houston has one star (harden), and 2 average starters(lin and asik)... then the rest of the line up is a bunch of no names.

i think its fair for dwight to ask for more stars. their power forward is greg smith, i've never even heard of him.

Um, they also have Chandler Parsons.

I don't think people understand just how talented Parsons is.

[gpap]

I would bite on

Rondo, Lee for Asik, Parsons, Beverely, and a pick

I think the only issue with including Courtney Lee would be that the Celts might have to wait a full year after they acquired Lee from the very same team, being the Rockets.

Then switch Lee for Bass or something?

I really like the core deal, though. I'm really high on Asik.

Me too. And if you can rid yourself of either Lee or Bass, you set yourself up for massive cap space for 2015 (when Love, Aldridge and Marc Gasol are free agents.)

The contract of Brandon Bass ends after the 2014-2015 season.

Got it, I thought he signed a 4 year deal last year. Then it's Courtney Lee's contract we need to get rid of asap.

This could work too, a 3 way with Dallas/New Orleans
Dallas gets: Rondo/Courtney Lee

Celts get: Shawn Marion(expiring), Vince Carter, Jae Crowder, Shane Larkin, Robin Lopez and 2014 1st round pick from Dallas.

New Orleans gets: Celtics 2015 1st rd pick from the Clippers/Doc deal.

Again, not saying I'd do this. Only saying this could be a logical idea if the Dwight hunt drives up Rondo's trade value and we want to look to shed as much as salary as possible.

[syfy9]

I would bite on

Rondo, Lee for Asik, Parsons, Beverely, and a pick

you would give up a top 20 nba player for that pile of poop? tell me youre joking?

Asik is a top 10 center in this league right now.

If you think Parsons is anything remotely similar to discarded undesirables, then you really no little about the rest of the NBA. He's a legit shooter, passer, and overall one of the smarter players in the NBA. Poor, poor, poor, poor man's Larry Bird. And that's saying a lot. Seriously, the dude can ball.

Beverely is better than Lin (who you said is an average starter?), and will probably take over at starting PG next season. He's quite the scrapper and I've always been really impressed with him. He's only a notch or two lower than Bledsoe.


This is a really good haul for a PG with a torn ACL.
 

[BudweiserCeltic]

I would bite on

Rondo, Lee for Asik, Parsons, Beverely, and a pick

I think the only issue with including Courtney Lee would be that the Celts might have to wait a full year after they acquired Lee from the very same team, being the Rockets.

Then switch Lee for Bass or something?

I really like the core deal, though. I'm really high on Asik.

Me too. And if you can rid yourself of either Lee or Bass, you set yourself up for massive cap space for 2015 (when Love, Aldridge and Marc Gasol are free agents.)

The contract of Brandon Bass ends after the 2014-2015 season.

Got it, I thought he signed a 4 year deal last year. Then it's Courtney Lee's contract we need to get rid of asap.

Massive cap space when you don't have any player signed is nothing to be excited about.

Love, Aldrige, Gasol are not coming here with no one to play with... and, why are we salivating over these guys anyways?

No, I don't envision this team having cap space any time soon.

[BballTim]

Lol, I couldn't believe this

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/howard-asks-rockets-more-star-171234193--nba.html

Dwight hasn't even signed with Houston yet, and already he's asking if they can bring in another star player.

If he's so concerned about playing with star players, then why didn't he consider the idea of coming to Boston?

He could've played with Rondo and then Josh Smith would've likely followed.

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the Rondo/Josh Smith/Dwight idea that has been mentioned plenty of times lately in this forum.

If Dwight and Josh wanted to come to Boston, what assets and cap space would we use to acquire both and still hold on to Rondo?  Even as a hypothetical it makes no sense.

  Sign and trade deals, not cap space.

[BballTim]

I don't know if this is true, but if it is Dwight is an idiot.

  Dwight's an idiot whether it's true or not. That's pretty well established by now.

[byennie]

Have we passed the era where a single player believes he can win without the help of multiple other All-Stars? If LeBron and Howard need to be on superteams in their prime, who's left? Sad. Jordan is rolling in his grave (or whatever you call his post-playing career).

[celtsfan84]

Lol, I couldn't believe this

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/howard-asks-rockets-more-star-171234193--nba.html

Dwight hasn't even signed with Houston yet, and already he's asking if they can bring in another star player.

If he's so concerned about playing with star players, then why didn't he consider the idea of coming to Boston?

He could've played with Rondo and then Josh Smith would've likely followed.

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the Rondo/Josh Smith/Dwight idea that has been mentioned plenty of times lately in this forum.

If Dwight and Josh wanted to come to Boston, what assets and cap space would we use to acquire both and still hold on to Rondo?  Even as a hypothetical it makes no sense.

  Sign and trade deals, not cap space.

The Lakers are highly unlikely to take 2014 salary back in a sign-and-trade deal.  If Howard and Smith were interested in Boston, what hypothetical sign-and-trade would you see the Celtics putting together for Howard while putting a sign-and-trade together for Smith, while keeping Rondo?

The assets aren't there.  The Celtics would need cap space, which they don't have, because they wouldn't be able to interest both teams in a sign-and-trade.

The bad news about a sign-and-trade deal, Tim, is that even if Howard and Smith were interested, the Lakers and Hawks have to actually say yes.

[Ogaju]

Lol, I couldn't believe this

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/howard-asks-rockets-more-star-171234193--nba.html

Dwight hasn't even signed with Houston yet, and already he's asking if they can bring in another star player.

If he's so concerned about playing with star players, then why didn't he consider the idea of coming to Boston?

He could've played with Rondo and then Josh Smith would've likely followed.

This guy is such a joke. I posted here that if DH is not asking the Lakers to trade Kobe for a young core to surround him to win with the Lakers then the Lakers should not bother with this loser. I was right if the reports are true that he is asking for more stars in Houston.

[rondoallaturca]

This guy is disgusting. Is it just me, or are there a lot of "superstars" in the league right now that are complete whiners? Melo, DWill, Dwight...

[BASS_THUMPER]

i thought he was Superman
i have seen him with a cape and dunking tall buildings in a single bound.

if Superman is asking for help then...

"Houston..we have a problem.."

[syfy9]

i thought he was Superman
i have seen him with a cape and dunking tall buildings in a single bound.

if Superman is asking for help then...

"Houston..we have a problem.."

Justice League...Assemble!

[BudweiserCeltic]

Lol, I couldn't believe this

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/howard-asks-rockets-more-star-171234193--nba.html

Dwight hasn't even signed with Houston yet, and already he's asking if they can bring in another star player.

If he's so concerned about playing with star players, then why didn't he consider the idea of coming to Boston?

He could've played with Rondo and then Josh Smith would've likely followed.

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the Rondo/Josh Smith/Dwight idea that has been mentioned plenty of times lately in this forum.

If Dwight and Josh wanted to come to Boston, what assets and cap space would we use to acquire both and still hold on to Rondo?  Even as a hypothetical it makes no sense.

  Sign and trade deals, not cap space.

The Lakers are highly unlikely to take 2014 salary back in a sign-and-trade deal.  If Howard and Smith were interested in Boston, what hypothetical sign-and-trade would you see the Celtics putting together for Howard while putting a sign-and-trade together for Smith, while keeping Rondo?

The assets aren't there.  The Celtics would need cap space, which they don't have, because they wouldn't be able to interest both teams in a sign-and-trade.

The bad news about a sign-and-trade deal, Tim, is that the Lakers have to actually say yes.

This is what you need to understand about the Lakers situation. They have a depleted team, they have few signed players while being way above the cap, no real means to acquire talent. They also have barely any draft picks, they basically traded them all away to acquire Dwight and Nash, so their screwed for rebuilding purposes also.

They are also looking into the final years of Kobe Bryant, possibly their last chance at trying to win a championship in a looong time, unless some miracle happens.

Guess what the Celtics have, talented role players and a crapload of picks.

[celtsfan84]

Lol, I couldn't believe this

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/howard-asks-rockets-more-star-171234193--nba.html

Dwight hasn't even signed with Houston yet, and already he's asking if they can bring in another star player.

If he's so concerned about playing with star players, then why didn't he consider the idea of coming to Boston?

He could've played with Rondo and then Josh Smith would've likely followed.

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the Rondo/Josh Smith/Dwight idea that has been mentioned plenty of times lately in this forum.

If Dwight and Josh wanted to come to Boston, what assets and cap space would we use to acquire both and still hold on to Rondo?  Even as a hypothetical it makes no sense.

  Sign and trade deals, not cap space.

The Lakers are highly unlikely to take 2014 salary back in a sign-and-trade deal.  If Howard and Smith were interested in Boston, what hypothetical sign-and-trade would you see the Celtics putting together for Howard while putting a sign-and-trade together for Smith, while keeping Rondo?

The assets aren't there.  The Celtics would need cap space, which they don't have, because they wouldn't be able to interest both teams in a sign-and-trade.

The bad news about a sign-and-trade deal, Tim, is that the Lakers have to actually say yes.

This is what you need to understand about the Lakers situation. They have a depleted team, they have little signed players while being way above the cap. They also have barely any draft picks, they basically traded them all away to acquire Dwight and Nash, so their screwed for rebuilding purposes also.

They are also looking into the final years of Kobe Bryant, possibly their last chance at trying to win a championship in a looong time, unless some miracle happens.

Guess what the Celtics have, talented role players and a crapload of picks.

I think that is a fundamental misunderstanding of the Lakers situation.

Plan A for the Lakers is to bring Dwight back. 

Plan B, if Dwight leaves, is to have maximum salary cap space in 2014, as the Lakers will only have Steve Nash under contract.

They aren't going to ruin their cap flexibility in 2014 so they can have Brandon Bass and Jeff Green to try to make a title run in 2013.  The Lakers barely made the playoffs last year with Dwight.  You think replacing him with our "talented role players and a crapload of picks" will put them in the title picture this year?

[BASS_THUMPER]

i thought he was Superman
i have seen him with a cape and dunking tall buildings in a single bound.

if Superman is asking for help then...

"Houston..we have a problem.."

Justice League...Assemble!