Olynyk & Sullinger

[PhoSita]

"The Hair"

or just

"Hair"


As in, "[dang], Hair is ON FIRE tonight."

gotta be careful, he's young, so that can go quickly. Before you know it you have a guy that looks like Chris Kaman but is nicknamed "the hair"

Dude idolizes Dirk.  The hair might go for a short stretch here and there, but it'll always come back.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

Also, I'm secretly hoping he'll decide to go back to this look:

Otherwise he's bound to be a punchline before he played a single NBA minute.

[PhoSita]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

I could see both taking charges, though, at least.

But yeah.  Not much rim protection between those two.

[kozlodoev]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

I could see both taking charges, though, at least.

But yeah.  Not much rim protection between those two.

Have you seen Olynyk play? He won't take a charge -- not because he doesn't want to, he just can't get in position fast enough... or at all. I'm hoping that he'll get a bit better showing on picks, but that's as far as I would go.

[PhoSita]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

I could see both taking charges, though, at least.

But yeah.  Not much rim protection between those two.

Have you seen Olynyk play? He won't take a charge -- not because he doesn't want to, he just can't get in position fast enough... or at all. I'm hoping that he'll get a bit better showing on picks, but that's as far as I would go.

If Fab Melo can take charges, I believe Olynyk can.

[clover]

Kelly All-in-it?

[kozlodoev]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

I could see both taking charges, though, at least.

But yeah.  Not much rim protection between those two.

Have you seen Olynyk play? He won't take a charge -- not because he doesn't want to, he just can't get in position fast enough... or at all. I'm hoping that he'll get a bit better showing on picks, but that's as far as I would go.

If Fab Melo can take charges, I believe Olynyk can.

Fab Melo is considerably, and I mean considerably more fleet-footed laterally than Olynyk.

[fantankerous]

Sounds like 2 out of 3 of a 3 men PF/C rotation.

Only if the third big is Big Russell

[RyNye]

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

Sullinger was actually a very solid defender last season.

Just because he isn't racking up blocks doesn't mean he isn't a good defender. Look at opposing player FG% and PPS and the like.

[kozlodoev]

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

Sullinger was actually a very solid defender last season.

Just because he isn't racking up blocks doesn't mean he isn't a good defender. Look at opposing player FG% and PPS and the like.

This has nothing to do with opposing player FG%/PPS. This metric actually says nothing about how well he was able to defend against the penetration.

The problem is not necessarily that he isn't "racking up blocks", it's about the ability to challenge. The problem is that he's 6'9 and can't get more than 15 inches up the ground -- which means that when he's not taking charges, he's probably on the receiving end of a layup galore.

[Boris Badenov]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

I could see both taking charges, though, at least.

But yeah.  Not much rim protection between those two.

Have you seen Olynyk play? He won't take a charge -- not because he doesn't want to, he just can't get in position fast enough... or at all. I'm hoping that he'll get a bit better showing on picks, but that's as far as I would go.

If Fab Melo can take charges, I believe Olynyk can.

Chairs don't count.

And even on that play he could have been called for flopping.

[CFAN38]

I am looking forward to seeing both playing together this season, though I don't think that they can be the frontcourt tandem of the future.  One of them could conceivably be the starter with the right big man starting beside him and the other coming off the bench, though.

This to me has to be the plan, if both are long term celtics than either melo surprises us and develops into a Tyson chandler like defensive anchor or some o e else will need to be brought in to fill that need. Both Kelly and sully have the size to be 4/5 s so coupled with a legit center they make for a great rotation. Similare to the current bulls

[Evantime34]

I'm not going to be hard on Olynyk,   got to give him a chance,  after all he is not a lottery pick ......what would you expect from 16th pick..

He is a lottery pick. He was picked 13th.

Olynyk and Sullinger will be disastrous defensively. If you thought we didn't have enough shot blocking last season... well, we now have less.

I could see both taking charges, though, at least.

But yeah.  Not much rim protection between those two.

Have you seen Olynyk play? He won't take a charge -- not because he doesn't want to, he just can't get in position fast enough... or at all. I'm hoping that he'll get a bit better showing on picks, but that's as far as I would go.

If Fab Melo can take charges, I believe Olynyk can.

Fab Melo is considerably, and I mean considerably more fleet-footed laterally than Olynyk.

Fab Melo: 12.4 lane agility, 3.44 3/4 court sprint
Olynyk: 11.42 lane agility, 3.59 3/4 court sprint

The numbers say that your considerably comment is hyperbole.

David West and Zach Randolph are good examples of slower people succeeding by rotating well and taking up space in the post. I think both Olynyk and Sullinger will be able to do it. Last year Sullinger was in the top 1/3 of the league in charges taken per 40 minutes, I think that will improve next year.

Side note: While looking up these numbers I saw that Gerald Wallace is one of the best charge takers in the league. Wouldn't be shocked if him and Green see a lot of time as a 3/4 or 2/3 combination.

[Tr1boy]

 if you dont have a shotblocker it doesnt mean ur team defense will be bad.

Would u rather have melo out there who can shotblock well but has no clue in how to play the basics? Olynyk and sully are far advanced in the anticipatory department. Sully later on in the year rarely got burnt by his man. It goes to show u what iq and motor can do for u.

Olynyk , sully combo at best will be similiar to how zbo and gasol are on d for their team. And its slow, but smart and effective

[ScoobyDoo]

The "klynyk", love it, that's what I'm going with as long as the guy is a Celtic. TP.

I thought I read last year where Sully was actually one of our best defensive players and ranked almost as high as KG when he was on the floor - mostly because he knew how to rotate and position himself. I could swear I read that somewhere.

Anyway though, I do agree as not seeing that combo as a defensive juggernaut. But in time and they mature I think the two of them with Rondo could pick people apart on offense. If they become passable on D that would suffice.

And both might end up as backups, who knows...but I like the contrasting skills sets of the two of them on offense.

I hope we see a lot more of Sully in the post - with the Klynyk spreading the floor a little for him with his outside shot.

Lastly, the klynyk reminds me a little of McHale on offense. I'm not saying he has McHale level talent at all (don't want to get roasted...). But he has a lot of herky jerky, left, right, over under stuff as he's trying to get his shot off in the paint.

I think he could end up surprising us on offense when he's is not such a focus of the defense as he was at Gonzaga.