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Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2013, 10:44:56 PM »

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Really seems like the Knicks are trying to take back the back page of the local papers from the Nets. Does Bargs really give New York anything more than Novak did considering his poor defense and rebounding? Seems like they just wanted to make a splash with a name because they are losing the battle of the NY media.

Hey, at least he's taller!  :P

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2013, 11:47:38 PM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2013, 01:01:00 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.

No, this story has two morals.

Moral the first: Rondo is awesome.

Moral the second: Bargnani sucks.
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Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2013, 01:05:08 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
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Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2013, 01:14:24 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
1.  I don't think you understand the meaning of the word moral.

2.  Are either of those two facts supposed to help Bargnani's case?  You are talking about the difference between 6ft and 7ft. 
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Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2013, 01:21:19 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.

No, this story has two morals.

Moral the first: Rondo is awesome.

Moral the second: Bargnani sucks.
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Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2013, 01:27:38 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
What's your point? Mine was there is a 1 foot difference between the two and Rondo is about as good a rebounder as Bargnani.


Another cool Rondo/Bargnani rebounding stat. Rondo had a higher rebound percentage than Bargs in TWO different years.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2013, 01:31:55 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
What's your point? Mine was there is a 1 foot difference between the two and Rondo is about as good a rebounder as Bargnani.


Another cool Rondo/Bargnani rebounding stat. Rondo had a higher rebound percentage than Bargs in TWO different years.

kozlodoev's point was that Rondo played more minutes and thus got more rebounds...maybe.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2013, 01:38:36 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
What's your point? Mine was there is a 1 foot difference between the two and Rondo is about as good a rebounder as Bargnani.


Another cool Rondo/Bargnani rebounding stat. Rondo had a higher rebound percentage than Bargs in TWO different years.

kozlodoev's point was that Rondo played more minutes and thus got more rebounds...maybe.
Again...what is the point? A 7 foot power forward playing over 30 MPG should NEVER be even close to having a 6 foot PG out rebound him.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2013, 01:58:48 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
What's your point? Mine was there is a 1 foot difference between the two and Rondo is about as good a rebounder as Bargnani.


Another cool Rondo/Bargnani rebounding stat. Rondo had a higher rebound percentage than Bargs in TWO different years.

kozlodoev's point was that Rondo played more minutes and thus got more rebounds...maybe.
Again...what is the point? A 7 foot power forward playing over 30 MPG should NEVER be even close to having a 6 foot PG out rebound him.

Yup. Just trying to clear up his point.

The difference in minutes played probably doesn't matter. Without looking, I would venture to guess that the per minute rebounding of Rondo is similar if not even likely greater than that of Bargnani's.

Bargs has, what, 5 rebs per game?

I have compared Olynyk to Bargs because of their guard in a 7 footer type games. But I wouldn't worry about Olynyk being soft. He's been labeled a competitor and a guy who hustles.

Bargs, on the other hand, is the definition of soft.

If super talented guys like D-Will, Bosh and Bargnani had the mentality of Rondo, they'd be so much better. Or rather if Rondo had their physiques, I'd be so overjoyed.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2013, 02:13:11 AM »

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If super talented guys like D-Will, Bosh and Bargnani had the mentality of Rondo, they'd be so much better. Or rather if Rondo had their physiques, I'd be so overjoyed.

Oh...man....this is like **** or something...not reality but feels sooo good to imagine it ;D




Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2013, 02:16:27 AM »

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Food for thought:

Andrea Bargnani and Rajon Rondo came into the league in the same season. Rondo has more career rebounds than Bargnani. Rondo only averages 0.3 less rebounds per game than Bargnani.

Moral of this story, size means very little when it comes to rebounding.
Moral of this story, Rondo has played 3,500 more career minutes, and has averaged 2.5 more minutes per game.
What's your point? Mine was there is a 1 foot difference between the two and Rondo is about as good a rebounder as Bargnani.


Another cool Rondo/Bargnani rebounding stat. Rondo had a higher rebound percentage than Bargs in TWO different years.

kozlodoev's point was that Rondo played more minutes and thus got more rebounds...maybe.
Again...what is the point? A 7 foot power forward playing over 30 MPG should NEVER be even close to having a 6 foot PG out rebound him.

Yup. Just trying to clear up his point.

The difference in minutes played probably doesn't matter. Without looking, I would venture to guess that the per minute rebounding of Rondo is similar if not even likely greater than that of Bargnani's.

Bargs has, what, 5 rebs per game?

I have compared Olynyk to Bargs because of their guard in a 7 footer type games. But I wouldn't worry about Olynyk being soft. He's been labeled a competitor and a guy who hustles.

Bargs, on the other hand, is the definition of soft.

If super talented guys like D-Will, Bosh and Bargnani had the mentality of Rondo, they'd be so much better. Or rather if Rondo had their physiques, I'd be so overjoyed.
Bargs per game rebound number isn't even 5. Its 4.8 for his career after 7 years, over 400 games and over 13000 minutes played.

He is just an atrocious rebounder.

His rebound rate for his career is 9.4%.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2013, 02:27:29 AM »

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I bet that pick is lottery bound in 2016.

The Knicks give away their first round picks like they're halloween candy.

They just refuse to learn.

Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2013, 02:42:48 AM »

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I would like to see if Mike Woodson can turn around Andrea like he turn around JR Smith's career.

Hate him or not, Bargs has scoring ability.

I think I'm the only one here on CB who like Bargnani.
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Re: Report: Raptors, Knicks close to Bargnani deal
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2013, 05:24:37 AM »

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Nick, fwiw I totally got your point, find it a very clever and revealing stat, and am a little surprised there's discussion around it. Maybe you could try to find the same stat for bargs and mugsy just to see what happens.