Why not just acquire Marion

[LooseCannon]

Why not just use the trade exception we are getting?
Trade exception and filler for shawn marion and shane larkin.

One, that exception has not been confirmed as it will all depend on how the trade is structured.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the trade will be structured to give the Celtics the largest possible exception unless Danny Ainge doesn't understand how the cap works or if doing it a different way yields the Celtics some other advantage.

[nickagneta]

Why not just use the trade exception we are getting?
Trade exception and filler for shawn marion and shane larkin.

One, that exception has not been confirmed as it will all depend on how the trade is structured.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the trade will be structured to give the Celtics the largest possible exception unless Danny Ainge doesn't understand how the cap works or if doing it a different way yields the Celtics some other advantage.

I'm sorry. Is there not another team involved here that might not want to take back that much money or might want to dump more money on Boston? Or maybe the structure of the trade with the S&T won't work and the trade might be broken into smaller trades that won't allow an exception that large?

Its been speculated that there might, key would here, be an exception that large but that the trade details aren't completed yet so things are fluid. I'm going with that and that is all I said.

Is it reasonable to believe Danny and his cap lawyers can make an exception that large? Sure. Is it reasonable to believe that NJ has good cap lawyers too and won't want to take back that much salary after giving up 3 first round picks? Yes, that is reasonable too.

[LooseCannon]

Why not just use the trade exception we are getting?
Trade exception and filler for shawn marion and shane larkin.

One, that exception has not been confirmed as it will all depend on how the trade is structured.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the trade will be structured to give the Celtics the largest possible exception unless Danny Ainge doesn't understand how the cap works or if doing it a different way yields the Celtics some other advantage.

I'm sorry. Is there not another team involved here that might not want to take back that much money or might want to dump more money on Boston? Or maybe the structure of the trade with the S&T won't work and the trade might be broken into smaller trades that won't allow an exception that large?

Its been speculated that there might, key would here, be an exception that large but that the trade details aren't completed yet so things are fluid. I'm going with that and that is all I said.

Is it reasonable to believe Danny and his cap lawyers can make an exception that large? Sure. Is it reasonable to believe that NJ has good cap lawyers too and won't want to take back that much salary after giving up 3 first round picks? Yes, that is reasonable too.

This just makes no sense.  The Nets are receiving Pierce, Terry, and Garnett.  The salary they are taking back is set in stone.  There's no way to configure the trade so they are taking less or more salary.  It costs the Nets absolutely nothing for the Celtics to get a trade exception.  I'm not really sure what you are objecting to.

[nickagneta]

Why not just use the trade exception we are getting?
Trade exception and filler for shawn marion and shane larkin.

One, that exception has not been confirmed as it will all depend on how the trade is structured.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the trade will be structured to give the Celtics the largest possible exception unless Danny Ainge doesn't understand how the cap works or if doing it a different way yields the Celtics some other advantage.

I'm sorry. Is there not another team involved here that might not want to take back that much money or might want to dump more money on Boston? Or maybe the structure of the trade with the S&T won't work and the trade might be broken into smaller trades that won't allow an exception that large?

Its been speculated that there might, key would here, be an exception that large but that the trade details aren't completed yet so things are fluid. I'm going with that and that is all I said.

Is it reasonable to believe Danny and his cap lawyers can make an exception that large? Sure. Is it reasonable to believe that NJ has good cap lawyers too and won't want to take back that much salary after giving up 3 first round picks? Yes, that is reasonable too.

This just makes no sense.  The Nets are receiving Pierce, Terry, and Garnett.  The salary they are taking back is set in stone.  There's no way to configure the trade so they are taking less or more salary.  It costs the Nets absolutely nothing for the Celtics to get a trade exception.  I'm not really sure what you are objecting to.

I'm referring to the only place I have seen reporting this trade with this big exception is a Hoopshype "cap" guy that says the C's will get the exception only if the trade is broken into 3 separate trades and the trade with the exception is KG for a sign and traded Bogans and that trade, I don't think, is legal since neither team is under the cap. So although this is the way to make the exception, it might not be legal under the CBA so the trade might have to be restructured into three smaller, separate exceptions. Or the entire may need to be reworked completely.

Find me someone more credible than this Hoopshype guy reporting this exception and how it is created, and I will take that into consideration, but for now, I am taking the "a trade exception MAY be included in the deal" as rumor until the league signs off on the details.

[LooseCannon]

Why not just use the trade exception we are getting?
Trade exception and filler for shawn marion and shane larkin.

One, that exception has not been confirmed as it will all depend on how the trade is structured.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the trade will be structured to give the Celtics the largest possible exception unless Danny Ainge doesn't understand how the cap works or if doing it a different way yields the Celtics some other advantage.

I'm sorry. Is there not another team involved here that might not want to take back that much money or might want to dump more money on Boston? Or maybe the structure of the trade with the S&T won't work and the trade might be broken into smaller trades that won't allow an exception that large?

Its been speculated that there might, key would here, be an exception that large but that the trade details aren't completed yet so things are fluid. I'm going with that and that is all I said.

Is it reasonable to believe Danny and his cap lawyers can make an exception that large? Sure. Is it reasonable to believe that NJ has good cap lawyers too and won't want to take back that much salary after giving up 3 first round picks? Yes, that is reasonable too.

This just makes no sense.  The Nets are receiving Pierce, Terry, and Garnett.  The salary they are taking back is set in stone.  There's no way to configure the trade so they are taking less or more salary.  It costs the Nets absolutely nothing for the Celtics to get a trade exception.  I'm not really sure what you are objecting to.

I'm referring to the only place I have seen reporting this trade with this big exception is a Hoopshype "cap" guy that says the C's will get the exception only if the trade is broken into 3 separate trades and the trade with the exception is KG for a sign and traded Bogans and that trade, I don't think, is legal since neither team is under the cap. So although this is the way to make the exception, it might not be legal under the CBA so the trade might have to be restructured into three smaller, separate exceptions. Or the entire may need to be reworked completely.

Find me someone more credible than this Hoopshype guy reporting this exception and how it is created, and I will take that into consideration, but for now, I am taking the "a trade exception MAY be included in the deal" as rumor until the league signs off on the details.

The way the trade is structured from the Celtics' perspective can be different from the way the trade is structured from the Nets' perspective.  The Celtics are allowed to trade KG for a sign-and-traded Bogans since the Celtics are taking back salary and won't end up over the apron.

Here's the relevant section from the CBA FAQ:

Here is a more complicated example of a legal non-simultaneous trade: Team A is a taxpaying team with a $4 million trade exception from a previous trade, and a $10 million player it currently wants to trade. Team B has three players making $4 million, $5 million and $7 million, and the two teams want to complete a three-for-one trade with these players. This trade is legal -- the $5 million and $7 million players together make less than the 125% plus $100,000 allowed for the $10 million player ($12.6 million), and the $4 million player fits within the $4 million trade exception. So the $4 million player actually completes the previous, non-simultaneous trade, so Team A is left trading its $10 million player for Team B's $5 million and $7 million players in a separate, simultaneous trade. From Team B's perspective there is also a simultaneous and a non-simultaneous trade -- it aggregates its $4 million and $5 million players to acquire Team A's $10 million player in a simultaneous trade, and it sends the $7 million player to Team A for "nothing" in a separate, non-simultaneous trade, thereby receiving a $7 million trade exception.

In the example, Team A and Team B are conducting different sets of trades with the same players.  I haven't looked at the Hoopshype thing you mentioned, but I assume it is a similar scenario.

[nickagneta]

So as I was saying...things can change and the deal may not go down as thought affecting the trade exception:

The deal is as has been reported with one wrinkle: The Nets receive Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Jason Terry ... and the non-guaranteed contract of D.J. White. The Celtics receive Gerald Wallace, MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries, Keith Bogans (via sign-and-trade), Kris Joseph and first-round draft picks in 2014, 2016 and 2018 plus the right to swap picks in 2017 and a trade exception valued at slightly more than $3 million.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/7/12/4518242/deal-is-done-kevin-garnett-and-paul-pierce-are-brooklyn-nets

[clover]

Marion

for

Bass or Lee (and whatever waivable contracts are needed for dollars)

Gets Dallas the 2.6 million in cap room they need and helps Boston unload a lot of future salary.

  That would be a great idea if they'd bite on it. Bass and Lee are actually useful players, which Dallas would be in need of if they get Howard.

I wonder if they could expand it with another Dallas player to squeeze Wallace in there.

[Moranis]

Marion

for

Bass or Lee (and whatever waivable contracts are needed for dollars)

Gets Dallas the 2.6 million in cap room they need and helps Boston unload a lot of future salary.

  That would be a great idea if they'd bite on it. Bass and Lee are actually useful players, which Dallas would be in need of if they get Howard.

I wonder if they could expand it with another Dallas player to squeeze Wallace in there.

This was proposed before Dwight signed and would have allowed Dallas to offer a full maximum.  That would have been why Dallas did the trade and for no other reason.

[Celtics Insider]

Marion

for

Bass or Lee (and whatever waivable contracts are needed for dollars)

Gets Dallas the 2.6 million in cap room they need and helps Boston unload a lot of future salary.

Who would we waive? We already have three competent SFs...