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Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2013, 03:31:46 PM »

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Backcourt's not my concern,  I worried about the frontcourt. Makes me really uneasy.
The starting five spot worries me.

I wish we had a better option there than a Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger.

Nothing fancy. Just a role player who could cover up that hole somewhat. Someone who can defend the post and protect the rim. I'd love to have a DeAndre Jordan plugged in there right now. He'd be perfect.

I like the options at PF and I am okay with the backup five options (backup center Olynyk, third string Fab Melo).

Just that starting center spot. Massive hole at starting center.

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2013, 03:33:24 PM »

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Backcourt's not my concern,  I worried about the frontcourt. Makes me really uneasy.
The starting five spot worries me.

I wish we had a better option there than a Kris Humphries or Jared Sullinger.

Nothing fancy. Just a role player who could cover up that hole somewhat. Someone who can defend the post and protect the rim. I'd love to have a DeAndre Jordan plugged in there right now. He'd be perfect.

I like the options at PF and I am okay with the backup five options (backup center Olynyk, third string Fab Melo).

Just that starting center spot. Massive hole at starting center.

The starting 5 spot would worry me if I thought the goal for this season was to win games.

As it is, I'm fine starting Sullinger or Humphries there and slotting Bass at starting PF, then giving ample minutes to Olynyk, Melo, and whatever young guys we have backing up the big spots.
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Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2013, 03:34:41 PM »

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PG - Rondo, (free agent), (free agent)
SG - Bradley, C.Lee, M.Brooks
SF - J.Green, K.Bogans, K.Joseph

Wallace?

Starting at power forward.

I'm pretty sure Wallace ain't doing that ever again after all his concussions.  Maybe Green would start at PF w/ Wallace at SF.

Even then, given our current objectives, I'd rather start one of the younger guys and bring Wallace off the bench.

I mean, if your goal is to ensure that Wallace misses half the season, then yeah, start him at PF.

Gerald Wallace is the better option from a defensive and rebounding point of view than Jeff Green is at the power forward position. I think Green should stay at SF.

Wallace's speed and slashing will also help open up transition offense and the halfcourt offense for what will likely be an offensively challenged team. I think it will be the team's strongest unit. 

I also want G-Wallace to play big minutes because I think he can put up good numbers here (14-15ppg, 8rpg in 32-35mpg) and improve his trade value immensely. In which case, I would be optimistic about Danny's chances at trading G-Wallace at the trade deadline or in the summer and getting that bad contract off the C's books. Which I think should be a priority for this Celtics team.

I agree that Wallace is the better fit at PF than Green skills wise, but I don't think he can hold up doing that for 50 games, let alone 80.

I'm not sure Gerald has it in him to average 14 and 8 anymore.
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Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2013, 03:57:29 PM »

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PG - Rondo, (free agent), (free agent)
SG - Bradley, C.Lee, M.Brooks
SF - J.Green, K.Bogans, K.Joseph

Wallace?

Starting at power forward.

I'm pretty sure Wallace ain't doing that ever again after all his concussions.  Maybe Green would start at PF w/ Wallace at SF.

Even then, given our current objectives, I'd rather start one of the younger guys and bring Wallace off the bench.

I mean, if your goal is to ensure that Wallace misses half the season, then yeah, start him at PF.

Gerald Wallace is the better option from a defensive and rebounding point of view than Jeff Green is at the power forward position. I think Green should stay at SF.

Wallace's speed and slashing will also help open up transition offense and the halfcourt offense for what will likely be an offensively challenged team. I think it will be the team's strongest unit. 

I also want G-Wallace to play big minutes because I think he can put up good numbers here (14-15ppg, 8rpg in 32-35mpg) and improve his trade value immensely. In which case, I would be optimistic about Danny's chances at trading G-Wallace at the trade deadline or in the summer and getting that bad contract off the C's books. Which I think should be a priority for this Celtics team.

I agree that Wallace is the better fit at PF than Green skills wise, but I don't think he can hold up doing that for 50 games, let alone 80.

I'm not sure Gerald has it in him to average 14 and 8 anymore.

If he gets injured, he gets injured. It is not something I am going to worry about.

It is not like the team loses anything by him going down. They can't trade him now anyways so no change there and they will still have plenty of forwards available to fill in for him so it's not like they are going to be stuck if he is on the sidelines for awhile.

So what if G-Wallace gets injured? The team will have lost nothing. Nor gained anything. But if he can stay healthy and be productive? Then they have definitely gained something. They made him a trade-able asset again. And if he isn't productive? He loses his minutes to the reserve big men anyway. 

I am not sure Gerald Wallace has 14/8 in him anymore either .. but I do like his chances.

I think he still has enough athleticism in him to do some damage. Especially on a team like this where there are (1) limited offensive options so G-Wallace can play a bigger role than he would get on a top team, and, (2) if G-Wallace is playing the four spot instead of the three spot, a position where G-Wallace has more advantages offensively matchup wise + is closer to the rim to grab extra rebounds. (read: pad his stats)

Good opportunity for G-Wallace to be productive and make himself a trade-able commodity once again.

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2013, 04:00:16 PM »

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Here lies the ghost of Gerald Wallace, a hoopsman who was once one of the most entertainingly reckless players in the entire association.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1CGETbQrU
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Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2013, 04:43:47 PM »

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If he gets injured, he gets injured. It is not something I am going to worry about.

An injury will almost certainly happen to some key players.  It helps our tanking which I think DA will make certain happens.

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2013, 04:54:49 PM »

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Selfish chuckers are the worst kind of player to have on a rebuilding team.

True, AW, held us back for years but look at the draft picks we got during his tenure.

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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2013, 05:10:52 PM »

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Here lies the ghost of Gerald Wallace, a hoopsman who was once one of the most entertainingly reckless players in the entire association.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1CGETbQrU

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Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2013, 05:17:30 PM »

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I think Pressey will make the cut. Classic Walton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLEvGbR8uzw

Agree we need to package some SG's and/or PF's and get a veteran PG, but who???


Always liked Wallace. Many classic battles w/ C's and PP.

Wilcox may be gone; but think Randolph and Olynyk and pair well with Sullinger and Bass/Humprhies

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2013, 05:21:17 PM »

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How bout we bring back Will Bynum. Would love to see him back in Green!

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2013, 05:28:31 PM »

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Was sold on the trade once they included Brooks. Like him alot; but not such how the SG's stack up now. Will be interesting to watch. Of course he may also just be a piece that gets used to get a more vetran PG/SG combo.

PG) Rondo, Bradley, Pressey, Williams?

SG) Brooks, Crawford, Lee, Bogans (hard to call)

Is complicated by the fact that Bradley is not (and never will be) a PG and Williams is an experiment, Rondo is injured.

Your thoughts

for now

PG) Rondo, Pressey, T Will (Barbosa could also be back)
SG) AB, Brooks, Crawford

I hope Crawford gets waived or traded. I dislike the kids attitude and game

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2013, 05:31:29 PM »

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How bout we bring back Will Bynum. Would love to see him back in Green!
Me too. I would love to have Will Bynum here next year.

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2013, 05:37:51 PM »

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I think Pressey will make the cut. Classic Walton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLEvGbR8uzw

Agree we need to package some SG's and/or PF's and get a veteran PG, but who???


Always liked Wallace. Many classic battles w/ C's and PP.

Wilcox may be gone; but think Randolph and Olynyk and pair well with Sullinger and Bass/Humprhies

Wow. His head fakes and no-looks sure are fun to watch. He and that forward had some really good chemistry

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2013, 05:40:30 PM »

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First choice for FA PG would be Will Bynum

Other FA PG's:
Devin Harris, Shaun Livingston, Mike James, Jose Calderon, Jarret Jack, D.J. Augustine, Mo Williams, A.J. Price

Would be best to do a sign and trade obviously. Question is who would want to be part of a rebuilding process in Boston. Also minutes would depend largely on if Rondo is dealt or not.

Re: How does the Backcourt stack up?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2013, 05:43:14 PM »

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I would also like Shaun Livingston as an alternative to Will Bynum. Can defend some wings while Bradley defends the point. Nice big PG to provide some contrast from Rondo and other backup PG (Pressey?). Probably be available cheap and not have much interest in him. Should be easy to get.