A few points on the possibility of getting Howard

[Hemingway]

The question is, could we clear enough money or create a large enough TPE to get howard if he wanted to sign here outright?

I don't think LA cares about us enough to not do a sign and trade, I think they don't do a sign and trade because they are in cap hell right now. Rondo would be the only player that they might consider worth the etra hit. With the new CBA rules they are getting hit more than just dollar for dollar over the cap. I don't completely understand it but I have read that they are going to pay a ton. So any idea of Bass + Lee + blah blah blah will never work.

Can we trade 2 guys together to create one TPE? Say Humpries and Lee and 2 firsts for a big TPE? Or wallace and Bass and 3 1sts for a huge TPE?

[D.o.s.]

The question is, could we clear enough money or create a large enough TPE to get howard if he wanted to sign here outright?

I don't think LA cares about us enough to not do a sign and trade, I think they don't do a sign and trade because they are in cap hell right now. Rondo would be the only player that they might consider worth the etra hit. With the new CBA rules they are getting hit more than just dollar for dollar over the cap. I don't completely understand it but I have read that they are going to pay a ton. So any idea of Bass + Lee + blah blah blah will never work.

Can we trade 2 guys together to create one TPE? Say Humpries and Lee and 2 firsts for a big TPE? Or wallace and Bass and 3 1sts for a huge TPE?

I think they'd rather be in a spot of salary cap trouble than have Dwight walk for nothing.

[vjcsmoke]

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What I did read was the title, and thought it was the best joke I've heard all year. Thank you.

that was slightly uncalled for, as their is a possibility, slim, but a possibility nonetheless. I know it may sound childish but if you dont have anything to say dont say it.

Hard to see this trade happening without losing Green or Rondo, but if we get both Smoove and D12 and only lose one of them then it would be another big 3.

Jsmoove won't come over if Rondo is gone.  He would only come here to play with his best friend.  That means Green has to go if we're trying to acquire both Josh Smith and Dwight Howard.  And I don't think Howard even considers coming unless Smith is already here.  I think the possibilities of these two moves happening at once are 1 in 1,000.  So like 1/10th of 1 percent.

Add to that - can you imagine how terrible our floor spacing would be with Rondo, Josh Smith, and Dwight Howard on the floor at once?  LOL.  3/5 guys can't shoot.  The team would be athletic as hell and a defensive nightmare to score against but offensively... I dunno.

[Bankshot]

I can't believe anyone would want Howard after the circus that has occurred the last few years.

That along with his declining athleticism and play.

I'm still in shock that anyone would want that guy as a Celtic. He's not a winner and never will be. He's got the body, but not the mind.

A part of me wants him to bolt from LA just to make them look bad. And the rest of me wants him to stay so he can drag them down.

Howard did get his team to the Finals.

[rondoallaturca]

The issue is that while it's enticing for Howard to come in and play with Rondo and potentially Smith, that leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to perimeter shooting. Lee is great, but he's only one player out of five on the court. Green is decent, but not great. Compared to a team like Houston who can legitimately surround Howard with four decent to great perimeter shooters, that poses an issue.

[Hemingway]

Well from some twitter reports it looks like it will not happen, but it does look like Rondo pushed for it if you read between the lines.

As for the point about shooters, you are right. But, I think Howard needs to be the number one option on O like Hakeem was in Houston. Just try to fast break and if you can't throw it in to Howard if he gets doubled or trippled kick it out to a shooter.  I think Orl had the wrong idea of him needing 4 shooters and not to really be the main point of the O.

If I were Ainge I'd be calling Howard all the time and saying you can be the go to guy every play. I realize Howard in many many ways is a loser, but he is just so big and skilled that its worth it- the same line of thinking I guess some have for tanking. I wouldn't really want to root for him but if you have the chance you have to take it. Even if it is .01% you need to be calling and getting Rondo to call Smith to call howard.

[celts10]

I'd be much happier with a Rondo, Smith, Green core rather than a Rondo, Smith, Howard trio. At least Green can shoot and will likely continue to get better for us.

[gpap]

It's a long shot by far but a possibility at least
Considering we might be getting a 7 mil trade exception from Nets
Package Humphries and Bradley for Josh Smith
Send Wallace and a 2 picks to (ex. Bobcats)
Trade exceptions and 3 first round picks for Dwight

Rondo, Brooks, Green, Smith, Dwight

Again though. Hard to see this happening without losing Green or Rondo, defeating the purpose

Why is losing Jeff Green defeating the purpose? I wouldn't let the departure of an average role player get in the way of landing a superstar center.

[gpap]

I'd be much happier with a Rondo, Smith, Green core rather than a Rondo, Smith, Howard trio. At least Green can shoot and will likely continue to get better for us.

Not necessarily. I don't know. When I see Jeff Green, I see an average role player.

Apparently when others see Green, they see a superstar. Not sure what I am missing.

[Evantime34]

I'd be much happier with a Rondo, Smith, Green core rather than a Rondo, Smith, Howard trio. At least Green can shoot and will likely continue to get better for us.

Not necessarily. I don't know. When I see Jeff Green, I see an average role player.

Apparently when other see Green, they see a superstar. Not sure what I am missing.

Did you miss his game against Miami? I think in the second half of the season he looked like a guy who had a star ceiling (not superstar). In the first half of the year he looked like an average role player. So in last season alone he gave us evidence he could be a star but also gave us evidence he's an average player, really depends which you want to believe.

[gpap]

I'd be much happier with a Rondo, Smith, Green core rather than a Rondo, Smith, Howard trio. At least Green can shoot and will likely continue to get better for us.

Not necessarily. I don't know. When I see Jeff Green, I see an average role player.

Apparently when other see Green, they see a superstar. Not sure what I am missing.

Did you miss his game against Miami? I think in the second half of the season he looked like a guy who had a star ceiling (not superstar). In the first half of the year he looked like an average role player. So in last season alone he gave us evidence he could be a star but also gave us evidence he's an average player, really depends which you want to believe.

This year, I saw a lot of ups and downs with Jeff Green.

To me, if you're a star player or even a fringe star player, you've got to be a lot more consistent than what Green has been.

Especially for 9mil per/yr.

[kgainez]

my question is why would we call him if DA said we aren't in a position to sign big names this year?

i think DA is holding the cards close on this one. I still havent ruled out completely turning this trash roster into a more competitive one.

[bleedGREENdon]

I'd be much happier with a Rondo, Smith, Green core rather than a Rondo, Smith, Howard trio. At least Green can shoot and will likely continue to get better for us.

Not necessarily. I don't know. When I see Jeff Green, I see an average role player.

Apparently when others see Green, they see a superstar. Not sure what I am missing.

Jeff green is a superstar that hasnt had his chance to show hes one. He'll get it this year. Regardless of who pick up this offseason.

[gpap]

I'd be much happier with a Rondo, Smith, Green core rather than a Rondo, Smith, Howard trio. At least Green can shoot and will likely continue to get better for us.

Not necessarily. I don't know. When I see Jeff Green, I see an average role player.

Apparently when others see Green, they see a superstar. Not sure what I am missing.

Jeff green is a superstar that hasnt had his chance to show hes one. He'll get it this year. Regardless of who pick up this offseason.

I don't see it.

[bleedGREENdon]

We have to wait till July 10th and then we will know what Danny is doing.

July 10th( when nets trade is finalized)