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Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2013, 12:05:28 PM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Josh Smith and Jeff Green can be effective defending LeBron on the post. So not sure what you're worried about on that regard.

Not a great rebounding team? Josh Smith and Al Jefferson are very good rebounders, and Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.

Yes I do agree rondo is the best pg in the league at rebounding.

i'm sorry aldridge is way better than Big Al.2 bigs that play D are better than one.


Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2013, 12:07:58 PM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Josh Smith and Jeff Green can be effective defending LeBron on the post. So not sure what you're worried about on that regard.

Not a great rebounding team? Josh Smith and Al Jefferson are very good rebounders, and Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.

Yes I do agree rondo is the best pg in the league at rebounding.

i'm sorry aldridge is way better than Big Al.2 bigs that play D are better than one.

What does Aldridge have to do with anything? No one, at least not me, is comparing the pros or cons of having Aldridge vs. Big Al.

That said, the price of acquiring Aldridge is that much steeper... and I probably won't want a piece of the asking price.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2013, 12:12:17 PM »

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What is the Cap situation rite now?

As constituted do the Celts have enough space to sign an Al Jefferson outright?

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2013, 12:13:35 PM »

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What is the Cap situation rite now?

As constituted do the Celts have enough space to sign an Al Jefferson outright?

No, there's no cap space.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2013, 12:14:24 PM »

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I really have no clue who's propagating this missing half the year stuff... he'll be ready for the beginning of the season or close to it. Whether he plays or not is another story.

People are making a common sense assumption that Rondo's type of injury means he will miss a year.  Common sense is sometimes wrong.

   Ignoring every report on a subject with no insight or evidence to dispute it isn't really common sense. It's simply making things up to support your argument.

People who rely on common sense are often morons.  I think we're really just disagreeing on the definition of common sense.  Perhaps it would be better if I used the term "conventional wisdom"?
Pretty judgmental of you, LooseCannon...one might say those with no common sense are morons.   At any rate, I, personally,  think Rondo has already had half a year off, and if his conditioning is completed, may only need to play to get into game shape.  I love Rondo.  My heart is already broken.  I am not convinced, no matter what Danny "says" that, Rondo is in his plans for the future of the team.  He may be waiting to show that Rondo has recovered well in order to raise his value. Only time will tell that. Some may trust Danny's words, I no longer do.
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Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2013, 12:14:48 PM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Josh Smith and Jeff Green can be effective defending LeBron on the post. So not sure what you're worried about on that regard.

Not a great rebounding team? Josh Smith and Al Jefferson are very good rebounders, and Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.

Yes I do agree rondo is the best pg in the league at rebounding.

i'm sorry aldridge is way better than Big Al.2 bigs that play D are better than one.

I know your not really Danny Ainge...but the thought crossed my mind....how often do Celt execs or players read about the team or themselves on here? I'm writing from Japan right now and when I entered Boston Celtics into Google it took me here.

These folks like the look of their names on the net. It's a small slice of fandom but a slice that buys tickets,merchandise and demands heads or trades or the heads of folks who made the trades etc..

K.G. seemed to always know what everybody was saying and this place is the best aggregate for Celts info/rumors/varying levels of insanity. Bet he peeked here.

If you were Ainge I'd just like to say that sticking keys in every lock on everything Doc has and breaking the keys off would not be petty...I'd do that! ;D

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2013, 12:31:21 PM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Josh Smith and Jeff Green can be effective defending LeBron on the post. So not sure what you're worried about on that regard.

Not a great rebounding team? Josh Smith and Al Jefferson are very good rebounders, and Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.

Yes I do agree rondo is the best pg in the league at rebounding.

i'm sorry aldridge is way better than Big Al.2 bigs that play D are better than one.

What does Aldridge have to do with anything? No one, at least not me, is comparing the pros or cons of having Aldridge vs. Big Al.

That said, the price of acquiring Aldridge is that much steeper... and I probably won't want a piece of the asking price.

heck if you want to be the best you have to trade for the best.

Big Al you would have to do a S&T so you would have to give up something.

 I might  have possibly of millsap and aldridge over Smith and big Al.


and to whoever refer to me as being the actual Danny Ainge. to set the record straight I am not him.

 i registered in '07 on the forum  before the big 3 and was able to see what he was trying to do, and it wasn't trying to settle on ok players unless he can swing them for better player.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2013, 12:40:45 PM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Josh Smith and Jeff Green can be effective defending LeBron on the post. So not sure what you're worried about on that regard.

Not a great rebounding team? Josh Smith and Al Jefferson are very good rebounders, and Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.

Yes I do agree rondo is the best pg in the league at rebounding.

i'm sorry aldridge is way better than Big Al.2 bigs that play D are better than one.

What does Aldridge have to do with anything? No one, at least not me, is comparing the pros or cons of having Aldridge vs. Big Al.

That said, the price of acquiring Aldridge is that much steeper... and I probably won't want a piece of the asking price.

heck if you want to be the best you have to trade for the best.

Big Al you would have to do a S&T so you would have to give up something.

 I might  have possibly of millsap and aldridge over Smith and big Al.


and to whoever refer to me as being the actual Danny Ainge. to set the record straight I am not him.

 i registered in '07 on the forum  before the big 3 and was able to see what he was trying to do, and it wasn't trying to settle on ok players unless he can swing them for better player.

I was joking dude. :o
Now you got me scratching my head...here since 07 using odd typing errors to throw me off?...I see you bro!!

Go Gettem DANNY!!!!

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2013, 01:02:56 PM »

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I'm seeing a lot of people say we should trade Rondo not for the sake of shedding other salaries or getting assets, but because he's going to demand a max contract in 2 years. What?!

Time and time again, proponents of tanking continue to make straight up ASSUMPTIONS that are no where near guaranteed to support their point that tanking is the best way to go. Rondo will demand a max contract. Brooklyn's going to suck in a few years. Out of all the free agents available this offseason, we'll only go after Josh Smith.

I mean, come on now. Obviously, I'm not coming out and saying all of them are false. But none of them are guaranteed, and I think it's telling that you have to use so many assumptions just to support tanking. That's not the way to go.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2013, 04:44:40 PM »

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support their point that tanking is the best way

Evidence tanking sometimes works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_San_Antonio_Spurs_season

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354379-lebron-james-from-rookie-phenom-to-arguably-the-nbas-best-player

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/bestNBArookies.html


It's always been there but your too blind to see it.  Some of these rookies added 20-40 wins to their team.   You get an elite and it's 20 more wins on a tanking team.


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« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2013, 04:47:36 PM »

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support their point that tanking is the best way

Evidence tanking sometimes works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_San_Antonio_Spurs_season

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354379-lebron-james-from-rookie-phenom-to-arguably-the-nbas-best-player

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/bestNBArookies.html


It's always been there but your too blind to see it.  Some of these rookies added 20-40 wins to their team.   You get an elite and it's 20 more wins on a tanking team.

When did I ever say it doesn't work? I'd be stupid to deny that a rookie like Lebron didn't complete change his franchise.

I'm just saying that in Boston's current situation, tanking is not the best way to go.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2013, 04:53:54 PM »

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Read your own post that is a direct qoute, I fully you expect you to edit it.  HINT it's fourth line down in your own post.

Tanking is not a sure thing but there is evidence it works but you have to get lucky.

I think it's hilarious that you are acting indignant when you clearly stated that very thing two post up.

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« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2013, 07:58:58 PM »

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support their point that tanking is the best way

Evidence tanking sometimes works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997%E2%80%9398_San_Antonio_Spurs_season

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354379-lebron-james-from-rookie-phenom-to-arguably-the-nbas-best-player

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/bestNBArookies.html


It's always been there but your too blind to see it.  Some of these rookies added 20-40 wins to their team.   You get an elite and it's 20 more wins on a tanking team.

When did I ever say it doesn't work? I'd be stupid to deny that a rookie like Lebron didn't complete change his franchise.

I'm just saying that in Boston's current situation, tanking is not the best way to go.
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Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2013, 09:03:33 PM »

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Read your own post that is a direct qoute, I fully you expect you to edit it.  HINT it's fourth line down in your own post.

Tanking is not a sure thing but there is evidence it works but you have to get lucky.

I think it's hilarious that you are acting indignant when you clearly stated that very thing two post up.

If you think that saying that tanking isn't the best way to go is equivalent to saying that tanking doesn't work, I don't know what to tell you.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2013, 10:43:32 PM »

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I'm just saying that in Boston's current situation, tanking is not the best way to go.

I would prefer not to tank, but I think tanking vs not-tanking is a close enough proposition that I can understand how someone would want to go the other way.
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