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Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #60 on: June 30, 2013, 11:11:44 AM »

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Peopple forget that Rondo is injured and will come back after New Year(best scenario). Normaly injured players are minstirous objects(nobody can predict their health)

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2013, 11:12:31 AM »

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Peopple forget that Rondo is injured and will come back after New Year(best scenario). Normaly injured players are minstirous objects(nobody can predict their health)

False.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #62 on: June 30, 2013, 11:16:42 AM »

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What do you think of a roster containing:

Rajon Rondo
J. J. Redick - Bradley
Jeff Green - Wallace
Josh Smith - Sully
Al Jefferson

Don't care about you thinking if it's possible or not, just interested if something with that make-up can be effective to compete.

Absolutely. Celts get Smoove and Al, and they are easily the 4th or 5th best team in the NBA. No way the Brooklyn Nets with the old-timers and an oft-injured Deron Williams and Joe Johnson can beat that Celtics lineup.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #63 on: June 30, 2013, 11:19:19 AM »

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our roster looks very strange now with no center and no back up at the point gaurd.  I think Danny moves to solidify those positions.


If Danny can make a trade with Portland for Aldridge by offerring picks and players to a team in re-build mode it will solve our center problem.  We can send picks and expiring contracts.  Add Aldridge to shooters like Green and Olynyk and make an offer for Reddick and we will have a terrific line-up.  We will be re-built overnight rather than 3 years.

I think Danny also makes play for Oden.  Danny is a high risk, high reward guy.

I would not be surprised if he trades Rondo to the mavs for ledo and larkin.  But this probably will not happen if we can get Aldridge or even howard via s&T with Lakers.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #64 on: June 30, 2013, 11:22:37 AM »

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Danny's next move will be trading Rondo.  It's probably not going to happen until after July 10th since that's when the KG/Pierce deal officially goes down.  At that point, we'll probably look to package Rondo with some bad contracts and take back some youth/picks.  I don't think we'll see Rondo play another game in Boston.

  It's hard to imagine that Danny will be able to trade Rondo at all with him having a knee injury that (according to you) might be career ending. Get used to seeing him on the team I guess.

Yeah, and I am really torn on whether moving Rondo is a smart move.

On one hand, for all we know, Rondo may never be the same player again after the ACL surgery so maybe deal him now while he still has some value.

On the flip side, if Rondo is here, it means he could be an attraction to other players wanting to come here and it likely means we remain competitive. 

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #65 on: June 30, 2013, 11:23:39 AM »

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Portland is not trading Aldridge...they be crazy if they did
apparently he has expressed interest in leaving.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2013, 11:27:02 AM »

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What do you think of a roster containing:

Rajon Rondo
J. J. Redick - Bradley
Jeff Green - Wallace
Josh Smith - Sully
Al Jefferson

Don't care about you thinking if it's possible or not, just interested if something with that make-up can be effective to compete.

Absolutely. Celts get Smoove and Al, and they are easily the 4th or 5th best team in the NBA. No way the Brooklyn Nets with the old-timers and an oft-injured Deron Williams and Joe Johnson can beat that Celtics lineup.

i absolutely do not want to be the 4th or 5th best team in the nba.I want to have a better team than the heat.Period.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2013, 11:31:45 AM »

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What do you think of a roster containing:

Rajon Rondo
J. J. Redick - Bradley
Jeff Green - Wallace
Josh Smith - Sully
Al Jefferson

Don't care about you thinking if it's possible or not, just interested if something with that make-up can be effective to compete.

Absolutely. Celts get Smoove and Al, and they are easily the 4th or 5th best team in the NBA. No way the Brooklyn Nets with the old-timers and an oft-injured Deron Williams and Joe Johnson can beat that Celtics lineup.

i absolutely do not want to be the 4th or 5th best team in the nba.I want to have a better team than the heat.Period.

I think the team above is the type of team that could eat the Heat alive.

Jefferson would punish the Heat inside, their biggest liability. Jeff Green and Josh Smith are about the best LeBron defenders out there, plus they can switch easily and it doesn't matter if the Heat go big and small, they can guard him effectively just the same. And you have Wallace coming off the bench, a very tough player.

Bradley on Wade will be a big weapon.

Rondo has been great against the Heat.

In all, the above is one of the best rosters you can build to go toe to toe against that team in particular.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #68 on: June 30, 2013, 11:34:55 AM »

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What do you think of a roster containing:

Rajon Rondo
J. J. Redick - Bradley
Jeff Green - Wallace
Josh Smith - Sully
Al Jefferson

Don't care about you thinking if it's possible or not, just interested if something with that make-up can be effective to compete.

Absolutely. Celts get Smoove and Al, and they are easily the 4th or 5th best team in the NBA. No way the Brooklyn Nets with the old-timers and an oft-injured Deron Williams and Joe Johnson can beat that Celtics lineup.

i absolutely do not want to be the 4th or 5th best team in the nba.I want to have a better team than the heat.Period.

I think the team above is the type of team that could eat the Heat alive.

Jefferson would punish the Heat inside, their biggest liability. Jeff Green and Josh Smith are about the best LeBron defenders out there, plus they can switch easily and it doesn't matter if the Heat go big and small, they can guard him effectively just the same. And you have Wallace coming off the bench, a very tough player.

Bradley on Wade will be a big weapon.

Rondo has been great against the Heat.

In all, the above is one of the best rosters you can build to go toe to toe against that team in particular.
who is going to protect the rim? please and don't say josh smith and big al.

thats why aldridge is way better than big al he actually plays some D

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2013, 11:37:05 AM »

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What do you think of a roster containing:

Rajon Rondo
J. J. Redick - Bradley
Jeff Green - Wallace
Josh Smith - Sully
Al Jefferson

Don't care about you thinking if it's possible or not, just interested if something with that make-up can be effective to compete.

Absolutely. Celts get Smoove and Al, and they are easily the 4th or 5th best team in the NBA. No way the Brooklyn Nets with the old-timers and an oft-injured Deron Williams and Joe Johnson can beat that Celtics lineup.

i absolutely do not want to be the 4th or 5th best team in the nba.I want to have a better team than the heat.Period.

I think the team above is the type of team that could eat the Heat alive.

Jefferson would punish the Heat inside, their biggest liability. Jeff Green and Josh Smith are about the best LeBron defenders out there, plus they can switch easily and it doesn't matter if the Heat go big and small, they can guard him effectively just the same. And you have Wallace coming off the bench, a very tough player.

Bradley on Wade will be a big weapon.

Rondo has been great against the Heat.

In all, the above is one of the best rosters you can build to go toe to toe against that team in particular.
who is going to protect the rim? please and don't say josh smith and big al

Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2013, 11:44:21 AM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.
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my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2013, 11:48:09 AM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

my point exactly, when lebron gets the ball in the post try stopping him. you ultamately won't unless you force him to take jumpers, but with a weakness inside you think eric spolstra can't think of doing such things.

btw not a great rebounding team either

Josh Smith and Jeff Green can be effective defending LeBron on the post. So not sure what you're worried about on that regard.

Not a great rebounding team? Josh Smith and Al Jefferson are very good rebounders, and Rondo is the best rebounding PG in the league.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2013, 11:57:25 AM »

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Danny's next move will be trading Rondo.  It's probably not going to happen until after July 10th since that's when the KG/Pierce deal officially goes down.  At that point, we'll probably look to package Rondo with some bad contracts and take back some youth/picks.  I don't think we'll see Rondo play another game in Boston.

  It's hard to imagine that Danny will be able to trade Rondo at all with him having a knee injury that (according to you) might be career ending. Get used to seeing him on the team I guess.
Teams will trade for him.  They just aren't going to give up an amazing package for him. 

Make peace with him leaving, Tim.  That's the next move.

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« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2013, 11:57:54 AM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

Shot blockers always help.  It is better to have one that not have one.   Even if you have guys who stay in front of their man, it still helps as a last line of defense.  No one will protect the rim every time but no one will stay in front of their man all the time either.

A shot blocker can also make people miss shots.  Staying in front of your man can make people take harder shots.  I would rather have the former because they have a chance to stop the shot and lower the percentage.   Many guys will just drill a shot if the lane isn't there.

Re: My thoughts on Ainge's next move
« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2013, 12:01:35 PM »

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Protecting the rim is not that important if you have players that will prevent the players from getting to the rim in the first place.

Shot blockers always help.  It is better to have one that not have one.   Even if you have guys who stay in front of their man, it still helps as a last line of defense.  No one will protect the rim every time but no one will stay in front of their man all the time either.

A shot blocker can also make people miss shots.  Staying in front of your man can make people take harder shots.  I would rather have the former because they have a chance to stop the shot and lower the percentage.   Many guys will just drill a shot if the lane isn't there.

Which is why Green and Smith together should potentially be a lethal combination for LeBron. Both are very capable weakside shot blockers, both are quick, and if LeBron gets past one, the other one can easily switch to pick him up without missing a beat.

I'm not arguing against the usefulness of a shotblocker, but it's not a necessity when you have capable perimeter defenders. It would only be a necessity against a team with a strong post game, and the Heat aren't it.

And then you have Crash coming off the bench, which is pretty much on the same mold...