Besides Cs What Teams are fits for Rondo that can give the Cs fair value?

[bdm860]

I like Indiana as a landing spot for Rondo.  He's just what Indiana needs to possibly get over the hump.  A deal based around Rondo for Granger makes sense on the surface, but the C's don't need Granger with the direction they're heading.  So maybe a 3 way?

Rondo to Indiana
Granger to X
X sends assets back to the C's

Team X could be a team with a good young point trying to make the playoffs.  Washington maybe? Portland? Minnesota?  Cleveland?

Sure Cleveland and Washington just drafted SF's, but a healthy Granger get's them in the playoffs this year, and takes the pressure off the rookies, allows them time to learn and develop.  Granger in Portland or Minnesota shows Aldridge and Love that their teams are ready to compete now and making moves for the present.  Though not sure what assets those teams have that they could send back.

I could see a 3 way working with Rondo, Granger, and young assets/picks.

[BballTim]

Man, I somehow expected more "RONDO IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT" posts in this thread.  Where's BBallTim and Celtics18?  Someone find me BBallTim and Celtics18.  We need some optimism in here.

  I try not to get too caught up in discussions about Rondo's trade value (although sometimes I fail at that) because a) people, despite their protests, really don't have any idea about how accurate their claims are and b) I don't really want to see him traded. He's one of the top playoff performers in the league. While I understand why some people want to trade him for a player (or players) who is unlikely to ever play at such a level in the postseason I don't share in their desire.

[rondoallaturca]

I like Indiana as a landing spot for Rondo.  He's just what Indiana needs to possibly get over the hump.  A deal based around Rondo for Granger makes sense on the surface, but the C's don't need Granger with the direction they're heading.  So maybe a 3 way?

Rondo to Indiana
Granger to X
X sends assets back to the C.

Team X could be a team with a good young point trying to make the playoffs.  Washington maybe? Portland? Minnesota?  Cleveland?

Sure Cleveland and Washington just drafted SF's, but a healthy Granger get's them in the playoffs this year, and takes the pressure off the rookies, allows them time to learn and develop.  Granger in Portland or Minnesota shows Aldridge and Love that their teams are ready to compete now and making moves for the present.  Though not sure what assets those teams have that they could send back.

I could see a 3 way working with Rondo, Granger, and young assets/picks.

The Clippers were rumored to have interest in Granger, but it's Indiana who actually wanted to keep him. However, getting Rondo in return surely must change their mind?

Who says no to a trade that involves Rondo to Indiana, Granger to LA, and Deandre Jordan to Boston? Obviously, other players and draft picks will be involved, but Boston's already shown interest in Jordan, and we could get draft picks in addition. Personally, I don't want Jordan, but Ainge seems intrigued and we already have Wallace holding us back for at least 2-3 years. It's a good trade for everybody.

[Celtics18]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
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Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

Andre Drummond is light years better than Noel now and with significantly more upside.

Interesting.  I'll take your word for it.  I don't follow college ball.  I was told Noel was easily the best player int he draft, but slipped because of his ACL.  Drummond was a #9 pick and supposedly was a bit of a headcase.  His ceiling was called "a bigger Amare".  He played well as a rookie, though.   So we're in agreement that the Pistons wouldn't give up Drummond for Rondo?

Man, I somehow expected more "RONDO IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT" posts in this thread.  Where's BBallTim and Celtics18?  Someone find me BBallTim and Celtics18.  We need some optimism in here.

I'm here, and I'm optimistic.  I don't think Rondo will be or should be traded.  So, if it makes you happy;  RONDO IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT

[BballTim]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
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Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

Andre Drummond is light years better than Noel now and with significantly more upside.

Interesting.  I'll take your word for it.  I don't follow college ball.  I was told Noel was easily the best player int he draft, but slipped because of his ACL.  Drummond was a #9 pick and supposedly was a bit of a headcase.  His ceiling was called "a bigger Amare".  He played well as a rookie, though.   So we're in agreement that the Pistons wouldn't give up Drummond for Rondo?

Man, I somehow expected more "RONDO IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT" posts in this thread.  Where's BBallTim and Celtics18?  Someone find me BBallTim and Celtics18.  We need some optimism in here.

I'm here, and I'm optimistic.  I don't think Rondo will be or should be traded.  So, if it makes you happy;  RONDO IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT

  Don't encourage him like that.

[rondoallaturca]

Another potential team is Dallas. They're looking to swing big, but Chris Paul is basically locked in with the Clippers now. Rondo's the next biggest thing they could ask for at the PG spot, and considering they have cap space, draft picks, and Marion's expiring contract, they could be a potential suitor for Rondo.

And with that, I'm done. I still think keeping Rondo is still the best way to go. You just don't find bargain contracts of that caliber on trees. Plus, he goes into an otherworldly mode in the postseason, and is a proven Heat killer. No matter what, we won't get even value in return should we trade him. Ainge is a smart, and even when he takes risks, they're calculated risks. I'll trust that he knows the right thing to do.

[Kane3387]

Hey on the Atlanta idea "Some combination of picks, rookie deal players, and cap space. (They obviously bring back Josh Smith.)" .... Hawks basically have nothing on that roster.  It's like Al Horford and guys with expiring deals.  They are swimming in cap space.   Maybe you could trade Rondo for Al Horford and then flip Horford to another team for draft picks and young prospects. 

My thought process there is... if they bring back Josh Smith and had Rondo, maybe they could sign Dwight Howard... Dwight is slightly redundant with Horford, right?  Since Smith plays PF.

Problem with that is if we landed a prime talent and young, talented center like Horford, I would really hate to move him. IMO, that's a player you build around.

Agreed. I would build around Horford.

I think the Kings deal would be good. Assuming it's an unprotected pick.

A Tyreke Bradley backcourt is intriguing. Tyreke handles point like his rookie year and guards the SGs. Bradley plays off ball and guards the PGs.

[pearljammer10]

I like Indiana as a landing spot for Rondo.  He's just what Indiana needs to possibly get over the hump.  A deal based around Rondo for Granger makes sense on the surface, but the C's don't need Granger with the direction they're heading.  So maybe a 3 way?

Rondo to Indiana
Granger to X
X sends assets back to the C's

Team X could be a team with a good young point trying to make the playoffs.  Washington maybe? Portland? Minnesota?  Cleveland?

Sure Cleveland and Washington just drafted SF's, but a healthy Granger get's them in the playoffs this year, and takes the pressure off the rookies, allows them time to learn and develop.  Granger in Portland or Minnesota shows Aldridge and Love that their teams are ready to compete now and making moves for the present.  Though not sure what assets those teams have that they could send back.

I could see a 3 way working with Rondo, Granger, and young assets/picks.

Wow. not gonna lie. that makes perfect sense and i could see Danny going for Grangers expiring and trying for mega
picks

[LarBrd33]

Another potential team is Dallas. They're looking to swing big, but Chris Paul is basically locked in with the Clippers now. Rondo's the next biggest thing they could ask for at the PG spot, and considering they have cap space, draft picks, and Marion's expiring contract, they could be a potential suitor for Rondo.

And with that, I'm done. I still think keeping Rondo is still the best way to go. You just don't find bargain contracts of that caliber on trees. Plus, he goes into an otherworldly mode in the postseason, and is a proven Heat killer. No matter what, we won't get even value in return should we trade him. Ainge is a smart, and even when he takes risks, they're calculated risks. I'll trust that he knows the right thing to do.

Good call on Dallas.  They could trade Marion's expiring for Rondo and then sign Dwight Howard.  But what would we get for assets?  Late 2014 draft pick? 

[Kane3387]

Another potential team is Dallas. They're looking to swing big, but Chris Paul is basically locked in with the Clippers now. Rondo's the next biggest thing they could ask for at the PG spot, and considering they have cap space, draft picks, and Marion's expiring contract, they could be a potential suitor for Rondo.

And with that, I'm done. I still think keeping Rondo is still the best way to go. You just don't find bargain contracts of that caliber on trees. Plus, he goes into an otherworldly mode in the postseason, and is a proven Heat killer. No matter what, we won't get even value in return should we trade him. Ainge is a smart, and even when he takes risks, they're calculated risks. I'll trust that he knows the right thing to do.

Good call on Dallas.  They could trade Marion's expiring for Rondo and then sign Dwight Howard.  But what would we get for assets?  Late 2014 draft pick?

I said above OJ Mayo, but they have to take back Wallace and possibly Lee.

[CelticsFan9]

Another potential team is Dallas. They're looking to swing big, but Chris Paul is basically locked in with the Clippers now. Rondo's the next biggest thing they could ask for at the PG spot, and considering they have cap space, draft picks, and Marion's expiring contract, they could be a potential suitor for Rondo.

And with that, I'm done. I still think keeping Rondo is still the best way to go. You just don't find bargain contracts of that caliber on trees. Plus, he goes into an otherworldly mode in the postseason, and is a proven Heat killer. No matter what, we won't get even value in return should we trade him. Ainge is a smart, and even when he takes risks, they're calculated risks. I'll trust that he knows the right thing to do.

Good call on Dallas.  They could trade Marion's expiring for Rondo and then sign Dwight Howard.  But what would we get for assets?  Late 2014 draft pick?

I wouldn't ask for the 2014 pick in that trade.  Maybe 2017 or 2018?

Cuban might not want to give those up, though.

[rondoallaturca]

Good call on Dallas.  They could trade Marion's expiring for Rondo and then sign Dwight Howard.  But what would we get for assets?  Late 2014 draft pick?

Marion's expiring contract, first rounders, trade exception, Larkin... any combination of those is possible.

[rondoallaturca]

I said above OJ Mayo, but they have to take back Wallace and possibly Lee.

OJ opted out. He's a free agent this offseason. I remember he said he didn't want to be in Boston anyway. That's what killed the Allen/Mayo trade talks a few trade deadlines back.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How about we not trade him? He's a top 5 PG in the prime of his career. Why not rebuild with him as a key piece?

Then again, this is Danny Ainge we are talkng here, so basically Rondo is out. He's too scared to trust his GM'ing skills and rebuild a team with an All Star PG already on the helm so he'd rather trade him and suck some more and rely on luck to be contenders in the future.

[Kane3387]

Good call on Dallas.  They could trade Marion's expiring for Rondo and then sign Dwight Howard.  But what would we get for assets?  Late 2014 draft pick?

Marion's expiring contract, first rounders, trade exception, Larkin... any combination of those is possible.

Interesting. Dallas has no pick though. Okc owns the rights to it. However in an effort to get Dwight maybe Dallas would do Marion and Larkin for rondo and Wallace. Then they can stretch the Wallace contract.