Besides Cs What Teams are fits for Rondo that can give the Cs fair value?

[Kane3387]

I think these teams need to be at least playoff caliber with Rondo on them or even be quasi-contenders with his addition. Otherwise with his age and personality I don't think ot would work.

Also these teams need to be able to provide us with Assets.

I would prefer to send him West also.

My ideas for the West.

Utah - Hayward and Burke for Rondo. They them bring back one of Big Al and Milsap. That should be a playoff team.

Dallas in a S+T for OJ Mayo if they take Lee's contract as well. Might have to trade Marion for Wallace too (not sure when these guys could be packaged in the same deal).

Houston - One of Lin or Asik, Terrence Jones, Thomas Robinson, and a future 1st.

Sacramento - 2014 1dt round pick and Tyreke Evans in a S+T
(A nice core of Rondo, McLemore, and Cousins and potential cap space if they amnesty Salmons)

Memphis - Mike Conley, Ed Davis, and a likely late 2014 1st round pick

* I thought about Phoenix but I don't see a match that makes sense for both of us and I am sure they would be hesitant to acquire Rondo with the lack of talent on their roster

My Ideas for the East

Atlanta - Some combination of picks, rookie deal players, and cap space. (They obviously bring back Josh Smith.)

Indiana - Granger, Gerald Green, filler, and a 2014 pick for Rondo and Wallace whenever they can be packaged together.
(Indiana gets their PG and another Lebron defender)

Toronto Lowry, Bargnani, Ross, and the right to swap 2014 firsts for Rondo and Wallace when he can be traded

** I didn't see a trade that made sense for Detroit, Charlotte, Philly, Orlando, and Milwaukee that Boston would do.


What trades do you think make sense for a team wanting to acquire Rondo that a team would agree to.

[LarBrd33]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
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Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

[celticmania]

I like Rondo, Bradley, Melo for Tyreke Evans and a 2014 1st round pick

[Kane3387]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
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Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

I don't see them moving Drummond or Monroe either.

Presently Holiday > Rondo with the ACL. Holiday is younger too.

[LarBrd33]

I like Rondo, Bradley, Melo for Tyreke Evans and a 2014 1st round pick

I'd try to hang onto Bradley there so he can be our role-playing point guard of the future.  Evans would fit in at SG. 

[syfy9]

I'm fine with a decent draft pick, or something like the Nets deal - multiple future draft picks that could potentially be something.


I think Sac-town might be most likely.

[LarBrd33]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
-----

Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

I don't see them moving Drummond or Monroe either.

Presently Holiday > Rondo with the ACL. Holiday is younger too.

But what if the silly rumor about Rondo, Smith and Dwight wanting to play together is true?... if Detroit landed Rondo, they could maybe bring in Smith and Dwight with their cap space AND keep Monroe.  It would be an intriguing prospect for a team that I think is ready to compete again.

[Kane3387]

I like Rondo, Bradley, Melo for Tyreke Evans and a 2014 1st round pick

I'd try to hang onto Bradley there so he can be our role-playing point guard of the future.  Evans would fit in at SG.

They just acquired McLemore and likely don't want to extend Tyreke like DA might be willing to do.

Don't see any reason to add more assets along with Rondo. They don;t have much leverage if they would indeed want Rondo to feed and play pick & pop with Cousins, and then dish it out to McLemore on the perimeter.

The Philly and NO deal kind of set the precedent for a Rondo trade. Might be a little better or a little worse but it's there.

I'd add in Melo if they added Thomas.

When healthy Rondo is a perennial All-Star (4 years in a row and still going).

[KCattheStripe]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
-----

Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

Andre Drummond is light years better than Noel now and with significantly more upside.

[LarBrd33]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
-----

Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

Andre Drummond is light years better than Noel now and with significantly more upside.

Interesting.  I'll take your word for it.  I don't follow college ball.  I was told Noel was easily the best player int he draft, but slipped because of his ACL.  Drummond was a #9 pick and supposedly was a bit of a headcase.  His ceiling was called "a bigger Amare".  He played well as a rookie, though.   So we're in agreement that the Pistons wouldn't give up Drummond for Rondo?

Man, I somehow expected more "RONDO IS WORTH WAY MORE THAN THAT" posts in this thread.  Where's BBallTim and Celtics18?  Someone find me BBallTim and Celtics18.  We need some optimism in here.

[gpap]

I think the Sacramento idea is the most logical one for a couple reasons

1.)I read today that Sacramento does NOT intend to match any qualifying offers for Tyreke.

That tells me that they are just about ready to move on from him.

2.)I've got to think Sacramento would love to have someone like Rondo on their team as a facilitator to Cousins.

3.)Landing Sacramento's 2014 1st rd draft pick is HUGE. Though landing Rondo could make Sacramento better, they could also just as likely end up being an awful team.

Thus, the Celts get their jewel, a possible lottery pick in next year's draft.

[LarBrd33]

Hey on the Atlanta idea "Some combination of picks, rookie deal players, and cap space. (They obviously bring back Josh Smith.)" .... Hawks basically have nothing on that roster.  It's like Al Horford and guys with expiring deals.  They are swimming in cap space.   Maybe you could trade Rondo for Al Horford and then flip Horford to another team for draft picks and young prospects. 

My thought process there is... if they bring back Josh Smith and had Rondo, maybe they could sign Dwight Howard... Dwight is slightly redundant with Horford, right?  Since Smith plays PF. 

[BballTim]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
-----

Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

Andre Drummond is light years better than Noel now and with significantly more upside.

Interesting.  I'll take your word for it.  I don't follow college ball.  I was told Noel was easily the best player int he draft, but slipped because of his ACL.  Drummond was a #9 pick and supposedly was a bit of a headcase.  His ceiling was called "a bigger Amare".  He played well as a rookie, though.   So we're in agreement that the Pistons wouldn't give up Drummond for Rondo?

  What does "a bigger Amare" mean? Because if he hadn't had the knee injury he'd probably be the best big in the league by a decent margin. He was an absolute beast.

[gpap]

Hey on the Atlanta idea "Some combination of picks, rookie deal players, and cap space. (They obviously bring back Josh Smith.)" .... Hawks basically have nothing on that roster.  It's like Al Horford and guys with expiring deals.  They are swimming in cap space.   Maybe you could trade Rondo for Al Horford and then flip Horford to another team for draft picks and young prospects. 

My thought process there is... if they bring back Josh Smith and had Rondo, maybe they could sign Dwight Howard... Dwight is slightly redundant with Horford, right?  Since Smith plays PF.

Problem with that is if we landed a prime talent and young, talented center like Horford, I would really hate to move him. IMO, that's a player you build around.

[LarBrd33]

Pistons have a ton of cap space with calderon being a free agent (i think).  I'd be in favor of a trade like this:


Boston trades:

Rondo - 12 mil
Wallace - 10 mil

Detroit trades:

Charlie V - 8.5 mil expiring
Brandon Knight - 2.8 mil
Andre Drummond - 2.4 mil.

... If they need to they can throw in Stuckey so they have more cap space... Stuckey is 8.5 mil expiring.
-----

Then Detroit can go out and sign Josh Smith so they can roll out PG - Rondo, SG Caldwell-Pope, SF - Wallace, PF - Josh Smith, C - Greg Monroe.

Probably a playoff team.

Btw, mine is a total pipe dream.  I can't see Detroit giving up Drummond for a busted PG like Rondo.  Your trades are more realistic.  But it's fair to note that the freakin 76ers just got a 2014 pick AND Nerlens Noel for their 23 year old allstar PG.  I think NOel > Drummond and 2014 pick is > than Knight.

Andre Drummond is light years better than Noel now and with significantly more upside.

Interesting.  I'll take your word for it.  I don't follow college ball.  I was told Noel was easily the best player int he draft, but slipped because of his ACL.  Drummond was a #9 pick and supposedly was a bit of a headcase.  His ceiling was called "a bigger Amare".  He played well as a rookie, though.   So we're in agreement that the Pistons wouldn't give up Drummond for Rondo?

  What does "a bigger Amare" mean? Because if he hadn't had the knee injury he'd probably be the best big in the league by a decent margin. He was an absolute beast.

That's how Chad Ford described him pre-2012 draft on Simmons podcast (again, I don't follow College ball).  He said worst case scenario he's a headcase who turns into a complete and total bust.  But physically he's a freak of nature... and could end up being like Amare.  Physical freak who can run the floor and throw it down, but probably not the greatest bball IQ and probably not much of a defender.  He also had mentioned that Drummond's personality in the draft camps reminded him of when he first saw Dwight Howard... head in the clouds... not focused.  Poor demeanor... distracted.  That kinda thing.

All reasons why Drummond slipped to #9.  But the dude has serious potential and he's really young.  He performed well with his minutes in Detroit.  I'd trade Rondo for him.  I don't think the Pistons would trade him for Rondo.