Windhorst: Ainge told people he plans to build around Sullinger, Green, Bradley"

[BballTim]

That is in fact what he said.   But what will happen.

I think people heavily undervalue Bradley's defense,

Eric Bledsoe is just as good as defender as Bradley and was more durable.

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

[vinnie]

I like Avery Bradley. That said, he simply is not an adequate starting 2 guard in this league.

[BudweiserCeltic]

That is in fact what he said.   But what will happen.

I think people heavily undervalue Bradley's defense,

Eric Bledsoe is just as good as defender as Bradley and was more durable.

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Not arguing anything on who's better, as I don't care, but your reliance on "votes for the all-defense team" is one of your weakest and most flawed arguments you keep doing. Don't know why you keep using it.

It's no more of an indicator of how good Rondo's defense is either...

[vinnie]

  I think that's pretty much the opposite of what he was saying the other night.

I wouldn't trust anything Ainge says though. I think all options are on the table but he was down to tank for Durant and I can see him going for it with Wiggins. Rondo is too good to allow Ainge to do that effectively.

how is rondo too good for tanking? he has an ACL surgery, and he wont be back 100%, an he wont be back probably until around the all star break if we're lucky, danny can shut him down for the year and pull a derrick rose.

All-Star break, what makes you think that? Tony Allen, for example, in 2007 he injured it January, that's a month earlier than Rondo did, and he was ready to go to start the next season.

I am with you. This stuff about Rondo and Sully being out half the season or Rondo missing the whole season is ridiculous.

[vinnie]

I don't necessarily see any of Sully, Green, or Bradley as building blocks.

The future is looking brighter and brighter.

I would have to agree. If these are the building blocks, don't bother adding the building, because it will immediately collapse. This is not a great core and the whole premise is ridiculous: a too-short 2 who is great defensively, but challenged offensively; an undersized power forward with great potential who has played a half season; and a 3 who has been in the league 7 years and still not reached his "potential."

[KGs Knee]

The draft is 'loaded' but Id bet this draft sends out more rotation players. The draft next year is more top heavy, and deep there but watch this draft turn out more guys in the 6-10 man rotation slots.

I'd agree with this.

I can see at least 3 to 5 players drafted in this year's 2nd round making rotations.  To say that about next year's draft is a reach, and way to early to prognosticate.

[MBunge]

I like Avery Bradley. That said, he simply is not an adequate starting 2 guard in this league.

Bradley can certainly start at the 2 as long as you've got shooting from other positions.

Mike

[gpap]

I don't necessarily see any of Sully, Green, or Bradley as building blocks.

The future is looking brighter and brighter.

I would have to agree. If these are the building blocks, don't bother adding the building, because it will immediately collapse. This is not a great core and the whole premise is ridiculous: a too-short 2 who is great defensively, but challenged offensively; an undersized power forward with great potential who has played a half season; and a 3 who has been in the league 7 years and still not reached his "potential."

I would definitely have to agree as well. Which is why I highly doubt (or at least hope) that Ainge has no inclination to build around Green/Bradley/Sully.

No offense to those guys, but they just AREN'T players you build around, unless you are purposely trying to tank(which is also a possibility.)

I've got a feeling (could be wrong about this) that Rondo is the guy Danny is building around and is hoping to retool and be a contender sooner rather than later.

This as opposed to going into another 22 year rebuilding plan.

[BballTim]

That is in fact what he said.   But what will happen.

I think people heavily undervalue Bradley's defense,

Eric Bledsoe is just as good as defender as Bradley and was more durable.

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Not arguing anything on who's better, as I don't care, but your reliance on "votes for the all-defense team" is one of your weakest and most flawed arguments you keep doing. Don't know why you keep using it.

It's no more of an indicator of how good Rondo's defense is either...

  The coaches vote on all-defense teams, don't they? I'd say whether opposing coaches think you're a good defender is somewhat meaningful. I'd say in general it's based much more on merit that awards voted on by fans or sports writers. But since you seem to think it's so badly flawed, here's all of the players who have been on all-defense teams, ordered by how many times they won it. I'd like to know who on that list that you actually saw play didn't deserve to be on that list, especially players that were named to multiple teams.

  http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/all_defense_by_player.html

[Celtics4ever]

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Look at his defensive stats vs. Bradley.   I would take Bledsoe in a heart over Avery and Bledsoe is built like a man not a boy.     Votes have a lot to do with exposure.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01.html

It's darn close and I have seen some tape of him.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4RHTn_R98E

Perhaps you should stay up and watch some west coast games?

[Evantime34]

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Look at his defensive stats vs. Bradley.   I would take Bledsoe in a heart over Avery and Bledsoe is built like a man not a boy.     Votes have a lot to do with exposure.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01.html

It's darn close and I have seen some tape of him.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4RHTn_R98E

Perhaps you should stay up and watch some west coast games?

I think Bledsoe is a better athlete and more likely to produce a spectacular play. Bradley is much more consistent in his rotations.

I still don't get the Bradley hate. He played poorly in a playoff series but that doesn't take away the fact that he was an elite points per possession defender during the regular season.

He has never had a full off season to work on his game due to injury. You can expect a very good season from him next year.

As to trading Rondo, I think a big point guard like Tyreke would be a great fit. However, I don't deal Rondo unless we get a lot more for Rondo than just Tyreke. In any Rondo deal I'm wanting Cousins.

[BballTim]

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Look at his defensive stats vs. Bradley.   I would take Bledsoe in a heart over Avery and Bledsoe is built like a man not a boy.     Votes have a lot to do with exposure.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01.html

It's darn close and I have seen some tape of him.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4RHTn_R98E

Perhaps you should stay up and watch some west coast games?

  Check out the numbers here, which are based on people watching every play and not on a computer parsing box scores:

http://mysynergysports.com/

[manl_lui]

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Look at his defensive stats vs. Bradley.   I would take Bledsoe in a heart over Avery and Bledsoe is built like a man not a boy.     Votes have a lot to do with exposure.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01.html

It's darn close and I have seen some tape of him.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4RHTn_R98E

Perhaps you should stay up and watch some west coast games?

I think Bledsoe is a better athlete and more likely to produce a spectacular play. Bradley is much more consistent in his rotations.

I still don't get the Bradley hate. He played poorly in a playoff series but that doesn't take away the fact that he was an elite points per possession defender during the regular season.

He has never had a full off season to work on his game due to injury. You can expect a very good season from him next year.

As to trading Rondo, I think a big point guard like Tyreke would be a great fit. However, I don't deal Rondo unless we get a lot more for Rondo than just Tyreke. In any Rondo deal I'm wanting Cousins.

Idk, I want Cousins but not with the expense of Rondo. If are still competing for a championship then I don't mind trading some players like Bradley and a first rounder + fillers for Cousins. With no Rondo, I don't think Cousins stay for long

[gpap]

  If Bledsoe's just as good a defender as Bradley why didn't he get more votes for the all-defense team? Why was Bradley 16th in the league in opponent's ppp while Bledsoe was 195th?

Look at his defensive stats vs. Bradley.   I would take Bledsoe in a heart over Avery and Bledsoe is built like a man not a boy.     Votes have a lot to do with exposure.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bledser01.html

It's darn close and I have seen some tape of him.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4RHTn_R98E

Perhaps you should stay up and watch some west coast games?

I think Bledsoe is a better athlete and more likely to produce a spectacular play. Bradley is much more consistent in his rotations.

I still don't get the Bradley hate. He played poorly in a playoff series but that doesn't take away the fact that he was an elite points per possession defender during the regular season.

He has never had a full off season to work on his game due to injury. You can expect a very good season from him next year.

As to trading Rondo, I think a big point guard like Tyreke would be a great fit. However, I don't deal Rondo unless we get a lot more for Rondo than just Tyreke. In any Rondo deal I'm wanting Cousins.

It's not so much Bradley hate, as much as it is realizing, that he just isn't this spectacular player that some thought he was.

He's a role player that needs to improve his offense, nothing more and nothing less.

[Celtics4ever]

  Check out the numbers here, which are based on people watching every play and not on a computer parsing box scores:

I like Bradley, I think we over value him.  I think Bledsoe has better value given it's so close on defense, he is a better athlete and better offensive player not to mention he is more durable.

Call me old fashioned but I like a SG that can shoot.