Windhorst: Ainge told people he plans to build around Sullinger, Green, Bradley"

[Yoki_IsTheName]

This is part of the rebuilding process and as someone who has accepted that sentimentality is not currently needed in these parts, I love it. Danny is not messing around -- if it takes hitting the bottom to live at the top, trading Rondo is the final step. There's no use waiting around to see how his knee pans out, how well he'll handle the rebuild, etc. Get a pick, a young talent and an expiring contract and deal him.

The Celtics can secure a top five pick in next year's unbelievable draft (I know everyone loves Wiggins, but Julius Randle anyone? Jabari Parker?) and begin plugging in future studs around Bradley, Green and Sully for the next few years. Entering 2016 I wouldn't be surprise if we're already on the rise with potentially two very valuable picks from the Nets (swap in 2017/the 2018 pick) still on our hands.

And we end up with that Superstar with no good supporting cast and once again trusting luck that with all the picks and the young talent and the cap space that we get from Rondo, will turn into another all star.

The Draft is a big crap shoot enough as it is. Trading away your All Star, TOP 5 PG in his prime just to acquire a Superstar and hope we can turn the assets into a very good player is another crap shoot on it's own.

Everyone already said this is a LOADED draft. If we get atleast an All Star level guy, along with an All Star PG and a very good SF all while still having a lot of assets, we can be contenders, without risking having a one man show kind of a team.

[indeedproceed]

This is part of the rebuilding process and as someone who has accepted that sentimentality is not currently needed in these parts, I love it. Danny is not messing around -- if it takes hitting the bottom to live at the top, trading Rondo is the final step. There's no use waiting around to see how his knee pans out, how well he'll handle the rebuild, etc. Get a pick, a young talent and an expiring contract and deal him.

The Celtics can secure a top five pick in next year's unbelievable draft (I know everyone loves Wiggins, but Julius Randle anyone? Jabari Parker?) and begin plugging in future studs around Bradley, Green and Sully for the next few years. Entering 2016 I wouldn't be surprise if we're already on the rise with potentially two very valuable picks from the Nets (swap in 2017/the 2018 pick) still on our hands.

And we end up with that Superstar with no good supporting cast and once again trusting luck that with all the picks and the young talent and the cap space that we get from Rondo, will turn into another all star.

The Draft is a big crap shoot enough as it is. Trading away your All Star, TOP 5 PG in his prime just to acquire a Superstar and hope we can turn the assets into a very good player is another crap shoot on it's own.

Everyone already said this is a LOADED draft. If we get atleast an All Star level guy, along with an All Star PG and a very good SF all while still having a lot of assets, we can be contenders, without risking having a one man show kind of a team.

The draft is 'loaded' but Id bet this draft sends out more rotation players. The draft next year is more top heavy, and deep there but watch this draft turn out more guys in the 6-10 man rotation slots.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

This is part of the rebuilding process and as someone who has accepted that sentimentality is not currently needed in these parts, I love it. Danny is not messing around -- if it takes hitting the bottom to live at the top, trading Rondo is the final step. There's no use waiting around to see how his knee pans out, how well he'll handle the rebuild, etc. Get a pick, a young talent and an expiring contract and deal him.

The Celtics can secure a top five pick in next year's unbelievable draft (I know everyone loves Wiggins, but Julius Randle anyone? Jabari Parker?) and begin plugging in future studs around Bradley, Green and Sully for the next few years. Entering 2016 I wouldn't be surprise if we're already on the rise with potentially two very valuable picks from the Nets (swap in 2017/the 2018 pick) still on our hands.

And we end up with that Superstar with no good supporting cast and once again trusting luck that with all the picks and the young talent and the cap space that we get from Rondo, will turn into another all star.

The Draft is a big crap shoot enough as it is. Trading away your All Star, TOP 5 PG in his prime just to acquire a Superstar and hope we can turn the assets into a very good player is another crap shoot on it's own.

Everyone already said this is a LOADED draft. If we get atleast an All Star level guy, along with an All Star PG and a very good SF all while still having a lot of assets, we can be contenders, without risking having a one man show kind of a team.

The draft is 'loaded' but Id bet this draft sends out more rotation players. The draft next year is more top heavy, and deep there but watch this draft turn out more guys in the 6-10 man rotation slots.

Great point, and taken.

If that's the case, then move the other assets we have to get to the heavy part of the draft. Not our All Star.

We have an abundance of picks and young guys we can develop and rise their stock this year. We may be able to have cap room to absorb whatever bad contract a team who owns a top 5 pick would like to throw at us. Use that instead of giving away an exceptional talent who can make the transition from rebuilding to contending a lot faster and easier.

[LooseCannon]

I don't understand this desire to sell low on Rondo.  Luckily, I have faith that Ainge appreciates what a special talent he has in Rajon Rondo.

Rondo's a great player.  I can see someone who desperately wants to get one of the top picks being an advocate of trading Rondo so that he can't mess up a tanking plan with his awesomeness.

[JJones1090]

Order of events before making decision: 1) Talk to Rondo and figure out where his head's at, 2) Get the kid recovered, 3) Let him ride pine - D Rose style.

He is incredibly intelligent and would be a blessing to have for years to come. He's temperamental, sure. That's what makes his game so unique and interesting. And I'm not sure his attitude is a problem. He wants to win. I think eventually he'll learn to channel that into something productive like KG and really provide a drive to the team. I'm a big Rondo fan and would love to see him around for a rebuild. We've already got 9 picks. That's enough. Let's rebuild the smart way. No need to chop the whole team to pieces.

[alley oop]

  I think that's pretty much the opposite of what he was saying the other night.

I wouldn't trust anything Ainge says though. I think all options are on the table but he was down to tank for Durant and I can see him going for it with Wiggins. Rondo is too good to allow Ainge to do that effectively.

how is rondo too good for tanking? he has an ACL surgery, and he wont be back 100%, an he wont be back probably until around the all star break if we're lucky, danny can shut him down for the year and pull a derrick rose.

Derrick Rose's injury took place in the playoffs, Rondo's took place before the All Star Break.

[alley oop]

Well the source is pretty fuzzy on that espn.com article.  "i was told..." told by who?  You know that people are making up stuff left and right about the C's right now.  Lots of it probably coming from vultures from other teams that want to fleece us for the remaining talent we have because they see a fire sale.

If I am DA I don't decide on RR's role or non-role in the rebuild until I talk with him after everything is cooled down, and after I see how he does when he gets back to playing shape.  Anything before that really doesn't matter because you are going to be selling low on him if he isn't back yet.

No one hear really knows what DA is thinking, or how long he thinks the rebuild will take.  Rajon is a great talent and DA isn't letting that go for anything but a good deal for the C's.  That isn't happening until sometime in 2014, if at all.

This stuff doesn't even have to come from anywhere at all.  These guys make stuff up all the time.  When the preface something with a phrase like "word on the street . . . ," they have absolutely no responsibility to have any insider knowledge other than what the other sports writers or the guy down the local pub or the folks blogging on the internet are saying about matters.  Sports journalism is nothing more than National Enquirer type reporting.

We should all be aware of this by now.

And Windhorst is in the tank for Miami.

[Roy H.]

I don't necessarily see any of Sully, Green, or Bradley as building blocks.

The future is looking brighter and brighter.

[Celtics Insider]

I like it. I think people heavily undervalue Bradley's defense, and I like Green and Sully.

I think we'd be smart to trade Rondo. As someone who has torn his ACL numerous times, I can safely say that it never feels the same anymore, even if you make a "full" recovery, and there will always be slight hesitation, no matter how small, that will limit you in some form or another (again, no matter how small).

Also, it has a VERY high re-injury rate. I don't remember the numbers my surgeons were telling me, but I think it was somewhere around 80%. In addition, it is VERY easy to get muscle imbalances from the physical therapy (ironically making your weak leg stronger than your strong one), which can lead to you favoring one side and tearing your OTHER ACL.

Basically, one ACL tear can ruin an entire career. It offset mine a good 4 years, and I had world-class surgeons working on me (one of which was a surgeon for the Miami Heat players).

[Celtics4ever]

That is in fact what he said.   But what will happen.

I think people heavily undervalue Bradley's defense,

Eric Bledsoe is just as good as defender as Bradley and was more durable.  Bradley has durability issues and can't shoot a lick.   He is a great defender but unfortunately for him basketball also has an offensive end.   Sadly his PG skills are abyssmal as well so what you end up with is a one trick specialist.   He can't spread the floor.   His defense is very impactful but so is he is offense and not in a good way.

Also, it has a VERY high re-injury rate.

  I know people think they get the best treatment but these NBA guys do so even more.

Ainge is gathering young assets to make more trades.   

[ForexPirate]

you guys need to see what Danny sees.  Olynyk is going to be Danny's experiment at creating a 7 foot point forward.  I think he will do well in that role.

At guard, Danny will want someone to bring the ball up and put it in Kelly's hands like we have done with Pierce in the past.

The guards that Danny brings in will need to play defense like Bradley but be able to knock down their shots consistently unlike both Bradley and Rondo.  Maybe Danny thinks Bradley will find his shot again if he doesn't have to worry about being a PG.

The Celts jumped Utah in the draft probably because Utah who is in dire need of a pg may have had the same idea on how to best use Olynyk.

[PAOBoston]

This is part of the rebuilding process and as someone who has accepted that sentimentality is not currently needed in these parts, I love it. Danny is not messing around -- if it takes hitting the bottom to live at the top, trading Rondo is the final step. There's no use waiting around to see how his knee pans out, how well he'll handle the rebuild, etc. Get a pick, a young talent and an expiring contract and deal him.

The Celtics can secure a top five pick in next year's unbelievable draft (I know everyone loves Wiggins, but Julius Randle anyone? Jabari Parker?) and begin plugging in future studs around Bradley, Green and Sully for the next few years. Entering 2016 I wouldn't be surprise if we're already on the rise with potentially two very valuable picks from the Nets (swap in 2017/the 2018 pick) still on our hands.

And we end up with that Superstar with no good supporting cast and once again trusting luck that with all the picks and the young talent and the cap space that we get from Rondo, will turn into another all star.

The Draft is a big crap shoot enough as it is. Trading away your All Star, TOP 5 PG in his prime just to acquire a Superstar and hope we can turn the assets into a very good player is another crap shoot on it's own.

Everyone already said this is a LOADED draft. If we get atleast an All Star level guy, along with an All Star PG and a very good SF all while still having a lot of assets, we can be contenders, without risking having a one man show kind of a team.

Sorry, but you worry about getting the superstar players first, not the supporting cast. It's a superstar driven league.

[Celtics Insider]

That is in fact what he said.   But what will happen.

I think people heavily undervalue Bradley's defense,

Eric Bledsoe is just as good as defender as Bradley and was more durable.  Bradley has durability issues and can't shoot a lick.   He is a great defender but unfortunately for him basketball also has an offensive end.   Sadly his PG skills are abyssmal as well so what you end up with is a one trick specialist.   He can't spread the floor.   His defense is very impactful but so is he is offense and not in a good way.

Also, it has a VERY high re-injury rate.

  I know people think they get the best treatment but these NBA guys do so even more.

Ainge is gathering young assets to make more trades.

I don't think Bledsoe's defense was as good. Bradley's constant full-court pressure intimidated and annoyed opponents so much. It's irreplaceable.

Also, I basically got the "NBA treatment". Like I said, my surgeons worked with numerous pro sports teams, including the Heat, Red Sox, and Cowboys. My PT also worked with Marcus Lattimore.

Even with the best treatment, a torn ACL never feels the same, I don't care what anyone says.

[boscel33]

Ainge has told people he plans to build around Jeff Green, Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger. It sure seems like they'll be "rebuilding" next season to set themselves up for a good draft pick in the supposedly great 2014 draft. They've been dangling Rondo for years now. He'll have to prove he's healthy, but I expect teams to be looking to get him. Ainge is setting a standard here that he doesn't require proven talent back in big deals.

This was talked about for trading Rondo.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130627-2/brooklyn-nets-boston-celtics-blockbuster

Right, and there was nothing big happening on draft day either.

[wdleehi]

Sounds like GM talk in the hopes of pumping up his guys value around the league in the hope of a bigger trade down the line.