How comfortable are you building around Rajon Rondo?

[BleedGreen1989]

If the Celtics could pair him with a top notch scorer and a top notch locker room leader, no problem.

Yeah, the question is whether this can really be construed as "building around Rondo" then.

yeah, like you asked ealier, the term "build around" is somewhat subjective.

If Danny keeps Rondo on this team, then I would consider that building around him. At least for the time being.

[Casperian]

I´m willing to bet money that this franchise will not win another championship as long as Rondo plays for us, and that has nothing to do with his game or personality. It is a structural issue, in my opinion.

[Who]

His age worries me. 28 years old next season. Not a lot of time to put a Championship caliber team around him while he still in his prime.

[eugen]

Rondo is not a player to be mature to lead a champion team. Never showing leadership skills. Cs team has 2 options to rebuilt or to redemensionate the roster:
1. Trading Rondo and keeping KG+Pp like e core of this team
2. Trade  KG+PP and bulit based on Rondo

I am positive for the first option

[RyNye]

Because someone has to put the ball in the bucket. And when the guys who are expected to put the ball in the bucket are not also you're best and most reliable guys, you're in trouble. At least in my book.

You didn't answer my question. So do you think John Stockton is overrated?

You realize the difference between shooting and converting a layup, right?

If someone is a poor shooter, it will be reflected in their shooting percentage. That's what shooting percentage is. You can look at Rondo's FG% by section of the floor, and the story doesn't change much, either. You are just willfully ignoring the facts to better suit your pre-conceived opinion.

How do you determine he's the best passing PG in the league? By assist numbers? How do you reconcile this with the statement that he likes to pad his assist totals by passing layups?

Who is a better passer? And what on earth does that last sentence have to do with anything? How does passing out of shot on occasion make him a bad passer?

Seriously, how do you evaluate players? By making stuff up? Because according to you so far in this thread, assist numbers don't reflect on passing ability, and shooting percentages don't reflect on shooting ability. If you are just going to make your decisions arbitrarily without any effort at justification, I have no reason to bother discussing this with you.

Regardless, I can't consider a guard who makes 60% of his free throws and 30% of his threes a real go-to scorer.

Tony Parker makes less than 30% of his 3s. And he has had seasons below 70% from the line. Guess he's not a good point guard, either. 

Oh, wait, NOW you are using percentages as an evaluation of scoring ability? That's awfully inconsistent of you. Let me guess, you are just going to dismiss all the numbers with vague hand-waiving about the 'eye test.'

[Celtics18]

His age worries me. 28 years old next season. Not a lot of time to put a Championship caliber team around him while he still in his prime.

I think that 5+ years ought to be enough time.

[LooseCannon]

It depends on what you mean by "building around Rajon Rondo".  If you want Rondo to clearly be the best player on the team, then I might be uncomfortable with that.  If you want Rondo to be the second best player and you want someone who fits well with Rondo, then I am okay with that.  It probably means avoiding a SG who is a poor three point shooter and avoiding a PF who doesn't have an above-average mid-range jumper as part of his repertoire, but I'd generally want to avoid those types of "star" players anyways.

[CelticsFan9]

Rondo is a fantastic #2 guy on a winning team.

He does everything.  He passes, rebounds, defends, scores a little, and isn't afraid of the big moment.  All that being said, look at the past six years.  The Finals MVP has been a guy who can get his shot whenever he wants to (Pierce, Kobe twice, Dirk, LeBron twice).  Rondo is a guy who picks his spots on offense, and prefers to dish than score.

There's nothing wrong with that, but I do think that in order for the Celtics to win, Rondo is going to need to be paired with a scoring whatever (big, wing, maybe even another guard).  That guy is going to be the #1 guy for the Celtics if they want to win.

[KGs Knee]

I think a team could win a title with Rondo as a co-best player.  Add another player on his level, and a few more just beneath his level, and you'd have a really good team.  This is obviously dependent on fit and chemistry.

Rondo has proven he can do big things during the most important part of the season (playoffs).

If I was Wyc, I'd tell Ainge he has 2 years to put together a contender, or then it's time to explore Rondo trades with more fervor.

[KGs Knee]

Rondo is a fantastic #2 guy on a winning team.

He does everything.  He passes, rebounds, defends, scores a little, and isn't afraid of the big moment.  All that being said, look at the past six years.  The Finals MVP has been a guy who can get his shot whenever he wants to (Pierce, Kobe twice, Dirk, LeBron twice).  Rondo is a guy who picks his spots on offense, and prefers to dish than score.

There's nothing wrong with that, but I do think that in order for the Celtics to win, Rondo is going to need to be paired with a scoring whatever (big, wing, maybe even another guard).  That guy is going to be the #1 guy for the Celtics if they want to win.

The bolded text I particularly disagree with.  Being a teams's best scorer in now way makes you the "#1 guy".  Pairing a proficient scorer with a proficient playmaker does not inherently put one above the other.

I could see Rondo having multiple triple doubles in a finals and winning an MVP.

[Spicoli]

I don't like Rondo as a player so my answer would be no. I would rather them build around Jeff Green than build around Rondo.

[CelticsFan9]

Rondo is a fantastic #2 guy on a winning team.

He does everything.  He passes, rebounds, defends, scores a little, and isn't afraid of the big moment.  All that being said, look at the past six years.  The Finals MVP has been a guy who can get his shot whenever he wants to (Pierce, Kobe twice, Dirk, LeBron twice).  Rondo is a guy who picks his spots on offense, and prefers to dish than score.

There's nothing wrong with that, but I do think that in order for the Celtics to win, Rondo is going to need to be paired with a scoring whatever (big, wing, maybe even another guard).  That guy is going to be the #1 guy for the Celtics if they want to win.

The bolded text I particularly disagree with.  Being a teams's best scorer in now way makes you the "#1 guy".  Pairing a proficient scorer with a proficient playmaker does not inherently put one above the other.

I could see Rondo having multiple triple doubles in a finals and winning an MVP.

I don't disagree with you on the last part.  Look at the Celtics' 2008 title team.  KG was better than Pierce, but Pierce won Finals MVP.

I'm not saying this scorer has to be better than Rondo all the time in order for Boston to win a championship.  What I am saying is he needs to be a really good player; one who is better than Rondo.

[wiley]

Perfectly comfortable.  As if I were in a cadillac.  Or drinking gin and tonic.  Just need shooters who can also pass.  Karasev comes to mind though off the bench.

[SHAQATTACK]

He has the skill and now the experience and will be a Wiley old vet .

He helps the right coach win another banner !

[2short]

Big Yes.
As stated Rondo is a guy that could average a triple double in the finals.  Reminds me of Bird is so many ways, intelligence, court vision, gets all his teammates involved, GRUMPY and a leader.  He notices mismatches and will force another teams hand.  Can he be a scorer like Rose, no not currently.  Put him with a very good shooting guard, jeff green, sully and others that is a good running, defensive team.
I think a running team is going to make Rondo look amazing.  I would hope that danny is working on really getting him  a backup point guard.  No not old retreads sam cassell, not real pg delonte, eddie house etc etc