How good or bad is this lineup

[bcgenuis]

KG and PP need to take Ray Allen type roles going forward, meaning coming off the bench for 20 - 24 min/game.  Perhaps KG  can get those minutes starting the game and sitting, but their roles need to change.

The primary scorers on the team need to become Green and Rondo. In other words either Green or Rondo need to become a 20 ppg scorer if the Celtics are going to do anything in the next 5-7 years and the other at 18 ppg.  If they cannot do that trade them.  Sullinger is still young, if we are lucky he can become a 16/8 guy and be the third scorer.  I would like to think the numbers below are attainable.  Is this a championship squad - probably not - but who knows.  Injuries could happen to other teams for change.

C  KG (20-25 mpg) 12/6
PF Sullinger 16/8/3
SF Green  18/5/3
SG Bradley 8/2/2
PG Rondo 18/4/10



[u]Bench[/u]
Randolph/Melo 2/5  fouls 10
Bass 8/4
PP (SG/SF 20-24 mpg) 12/4/3
Lee
Terry

Weakness:  Need a better Backup Center (or Starter) and need a sharpshooter on the wing.

Limit KG and PP to 20-25 min/game

[kozlodoev]

It's a very, very good lineup if you're angling for a top 5 selection in the 2014 draft.

[bcgenuis]

That is a good goal too. I'll take top 5 in the draft or a EC finals.

[bcgenuis]

The way I see it - it takes a solid 2-3 years before anyone (no matter how great he is) from the draft becomes a legit scorer 20+ ppg. Presumably, we are not getting a legit scorer in this draft. So the earliest we can look at is 2014, add 3 years = 2017. 4 years from now. A team must have at least one legit 20+ scorer to even think about being a contender. Right now we have none. Can Rondo or Green become that legit scorer.  I think so.  If not,  we might as well trade them for picks and aim for relevenacy starting in 2017/18.

[gar]

Need much more from your starting SG. Bradley has to step up his scoring or should be made to sit. T Williams was showing some much improved shooting. Not wild about Crawford; but given the SG depth in this draft would not mind to see them take a SG (and a Center and a PF....).

[bcgenuis]

Need much more from your starting SG. Bradley has to step up his scoring or should be made to sit. T Williams was showing some much improved shooting. Not wild about Crawford; but given the SG depth in this draft would not mind to see them take a SG (and a Center and a PF....).

Is Bradley over rated? Or was his poor performance last year related to his recovery?

[kozlodoev]

Need much more from your starting SG. Bradley has to step up his scoring or should be made to sit. T Williams was showing some much improved shooting. Not wild about Crawford; but given the SG depth in this draft would not mind to see them take a SG (and a Center and a PF....).

Is Bradley over rated? Or was his poor performance last year related to his recovery?

Given that he really didn't get any better as the year progressed, I find it hard to attribute all of his struggles to the recovery process.

[gar]

Need much more from your starting SG. Bradley has to step up his scoring or should be made to sit. T Williams was showing some much improved shooting. Not wild about Crawford; but given the SG depth in this draft would not mind to see them take a SG (and a Center and a PF....).

Is Bradley over rated? Or was his poor performance last year related to his recovery?

Has always been an unreliable scorer. Some chalked it up to his youth; but is definitely related to nerves/wiring. Some people like Pierce have ice in their veins - he is not one of them. Crawford is just unconscious, seems like Bradley cares too much at times.

[bcgenuis]

Need much more from your starting SG. Bradley has to step up his scoring or should be made to sit. T Williams was showing some much improved shooting. Not wild about Crawford; but given the SG depth in this draft would not mind to see them take a SG (and a Center and a PF....).

Is Bradley over rated? Or was his poor performance last year related to his recovery?

Given that he really didn't get any better as the year progressed, I find it hard to attribute all of his struggles to the recovery process.

I tend to agree with that assessment.  Trade him for a  mid-low 1st rounder. 

[RJ87]

Does anyone else think Rondo will average more rebounds then Jeff?

I think a more realistic stat line for Rondo for next year will be 15ppg, 10apg, 5rpg.

Moving forward, the C's will likely have to find a primary scorer at 2 and move Avery to a combo guard/sixth man role.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

That definitely has a ceiling to reach the 8th seed or be a top 10 lottery team.

Now if we tweak and say, trade Bradley, Fab and Bass and 2014 and 2015 2nd round for Gortat (that's a lot to give already), trade Terry for a second rounder (to get back our picks) re-adjust the lineup a bit. Draft Shabbaz, Ricky Ledo, Glen Rice Jr., (a wing basically)

PG: Rondo
SG: Lee
SF: Green
PF: KG
C : Gortat

And then Pierce, our draft pick and Sully is our 6th, 7th and 8th man. Of course we still have to round up the roster with whatever space or exceptions we have but that's basically the core.

[CapnDunks]

Need much more from your starting SG. Bradley has to step up his scoring or should be made to sit. T Williams was showing some much improved shooting. Not wild about Crawford; but given the SG depth in this draft would not mind to see them take a SG (and a Center and a PF....).

Is Bradley over rated? Or was his poor performance last year related to his recovery?

Has always been an unreliable scorer. Some chalked it up to his youth; but is definitely related to nerves/wiring. Some people like Pierce have ice in their veins - he is not one of them. Crawford is just unconscious, seems like Bradley cares too much at times.

I think there's some truth to this. There's a good chance his nerves will get better. He's still only 22. He only had one healthy offseason and followed it with his best season. My concerns with Bradley have to do with nerves and that he's injury-prone.

[Who]

I would say it is slightly above .500

[Donoghus]

I would say it is slightly above .500

Yeah, I think that team is somewhere between 7-8 seed/1st round exit & dreaded lotto land purgatory