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If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?

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Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2013, 11:09:25 AM »

Offline Fred Roberts

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I think Jeff Green is ready to pop.

The late season & playoff Jeff Green has not played with healthy Rajon Rondo yet.

Healthy Rajon Rondo + 2013/14 Jeff Green is going to be an excellent combo. Avery/Lee, Sully/Bass and Fab/Shav will allow us to lose enough games to hit the lotto.

You don't need to lose every game by 20 to lose. You can lose a lot of games by 5 points and know that you are going to turn it around quickly. I'd rather be competitive and win some great games but have a crappy record, hit the lotto and be back the season after tweaking to be in contention.

Fab Melo will prove his worth this year by losing us a lot of games!!!

Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2013, 11:10:55 AM »

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yeah, the problem with Rondo is that he seems more like he's supposed to be the 1A player, rather than the best player on the team. Like, if the C's had Durant, there'd be no better 1A player than Rondo. He'd be a better fit than Westbrook, imo.

but if a Rondo-led team is to succeed all the way, then i believe that the team needs to be built like the 2004 Pistons, which is solid all the way from the starters to the bench.

The 2004 Pistons also had a Hall of Fame coach and a disgusting way of playing basketball--when the league has to change the rules because of your defense, you're probably not a fun team to watch.
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Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2013, 11:12:59 AM »

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Yes. Neither Rondo nor Green are players you can build a team around.

Green is a complimentary player.

I am still trying to figure out why Ainge traded for him in the first place.

As for Rondo, jury is out on whether you can build a team around him but that's not a risk
I am willing to take.

Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2013, 11:13:46 AM »

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What about the 3 guys with middle size contracts:   Terry, Bass, Lee?


I was hoping 2 of them would go out for Caron Butler/Willie Green. 


Can one of them be amnestied?


Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2013, 11:14:15 AM »

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What about the 3 guys with middle size contracts:   Terry, Bass, Lee?


I was hoping 2 of them would go out for Caron Butler/Willie Green. 


Can one of them be amnestied?
All of them were signed under the new CBA therefore none of them can be amnestied.
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Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2013, 11:16:31 AM »

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Absolutely not, unless we can get back a better (or at the very least equivalent) quality player in return.

Rondo and Green will make a very potent combination, and one that a lot of people here are underestimating.  With those two guys on the roster we are one borderline All-Star (Jefferson, Josh Smith, Monta Ellis, etc) away from being up there with Indiana, New York any any other EC team not named Miami.  Especially if KG decides to stick around.

Jeff Green, the way he has played lately, is quickly becoming one of the most underrated players in the NBA.  You have a guy like Paul George who people seem to hail as the next god of basketball, but what does he do that Jeff doesn't?  Not much.  If Jeff becomes an All-Star (or very close to it) next season don't be surprised.

IMO, you are overrating Jeff Green. Green is a role player. George is a player you can build a team around and much more talented than Green.

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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2013, 11:17:46 AM »

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I want to, but they're too old to rebuild around AND contend for a long time. By the time we rebuilt around them, they'd be near the age that our Big 3 was in 2007. We MIGHT be able to contend for a year or two, but I doubt it. Miami is showing no signs of slowing down, and I doubt they will for quite a long time, so that makes our contention time even shorter.

In June of 2018, Rajon Rondo will be about three months older than Kevin Garnett was when the Celtics won a title in 2008. 

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Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2013, 11:22:06 AM »

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If Green and Rondo are our two best players, they're on pretty good contracts.  Keep them.  We'll need the $$ for the #1 guy we have yet to pick up.

Barring some outstanding offer, I'd keep both and go from there.  Bradley and Sully seem to fit with them well, too.

Just need a C and we'd have a starting unit (athough Bradley should be 3rd guard).

No reason to trade Rondo or Green.

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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2013, 11:23:05 AM »

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If Green and Rondo are our two best players, they're on pretty good contracts.  Keep them.  We'll need the $$ for the #1 guy we have yet to pick up.

Barring some outstanding offer, I'd keep both and go from there.  Bradley and Sully seem to fit with them well, too.

Just need a C and we'd have a starting unit (athough Bradley should be 3rd guard).

No reason to trade Rondo or Green.

But if they are our #1 players we will need to resign them for more $ and their contracts will no longer be so good.  I don't think we can get rondo on another 11 mill per year deal.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2013, 11:27:32 AM »

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I believe Rondo will be traded, but not until the trade deadline this year or around draft time next year.
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Re: If we blow this thing up do we trade Rondo and Green as well?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2013, 11:29:31 AM »

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I believe Rondo will be traded, but not until the trade deadline this year or around draft time next year.

As an expiring?

The problem with Rondo is that the point is arguably the deepest position in the league right now. It's going to be a buyer's market.
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2013, 11:31:07 AM »

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If Green and Rondo are our two best players, they're on pretty good contracts.  Keep them.  We'll need the $$ for the #1 guy we have yet to pick up.

Barring some outstanding offer, I'd keep both and go from there.  Bradley and Sully seem to fit with them well, too.

Just need a C and we'd have a starting unit (athough Bradley should be 3rd guard).

No reason to trade Rondo or Green.

But if they are our #1 players we will need to resign them for more $ and their contracts will no longer be so good.  I don't think we can get rondo on another 11 mill per year deal.

Well, I suppose an allstar starter should probably be paid the max, right?  That's no reason to trade him.

We still need a 2nd max-type guy, making Green #3, where he should thrive.

We have plenty of other assets to trade for "that guy" without giving up Rondo or Green, including our own picks and the one we got for Rivers, and role players like Bradley, who will want to be paid much more than he's worth much sooner then either RR or JG.

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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2013, 11:32:38 AM »

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We don't need to resign Rondo or Green for several years. I wouldn't be too worried about that.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2013, 11:35:53 AM »

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If Green and Rondo are our two best players, they're on pretty good contracts.  Keep them.  We'll need the $$ for the #1 guy we have yet to pick up.

Barring some outstanding offer, I'd keep both and go from there.  Bradley and Sully seem to fit with them well, too.

Just need a C and we'd have a starting unit (athough Bradley should be 3rd guard).

No reason to trade Rondo or Green.

But if they are our #1 players we will need to resign them for more $ and their contracts will no longer be so good.  I don't think we can get rondo on another 11 mill per year deal.

Well, I suppose an allstar starter should probably be paid the max, right?  That's no reason to trade him.

We still need a 2nd max-type guy, making Green #3, where he should thrive.

We have plenty of other assets to trade for "that guy" without giving up Rondo or Green, including our own picks and the one we got for Rivers, and role players like Bradley, who will want to be paid much more than he's worth much sooner then either RR or JG.



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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2013, 11:37:34 AM »

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You give max contracts to guys who can bring you a championship, not guys who can be good enough to get you into the playoffs.
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