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Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2013, 01:18:09 AM »

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Im so on board with that.

They can take Bass too if they need someore sugar to sweeten the deal.
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Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2013, 01:18:50 AM »

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We're gonna get him. He was the most NBA-ready player in the draft last year, we're gonna snag him for a first (hopefully).
Have you watched him play? he was not nba ready. Sullinger was for sure, but not t-rob.  It's incredible that already a 2nd team is trying to trade him, despite Robinson not spending a year in the league.

This is strange to me, too. The fact that he's about to be traded a second time.

Some argue the Rockets are selling him short for cap relief. But isn't a rookie contract insignificant?

I worry that it might be some behind the scenes stuff, like the possibility that he's "uncoachable" and such.

Color me intrigued with some caution. I'd definitely say yes to 16 for him.

However, as reported by this article, Houston is not specifying what pick they want. Perhaps they're just more excited about one of the higher picks this draft than T-Rob.

Rookie contracts aren't insignificant.  They're generally not back-breaking, but he's due over $3 mil next year.  Conveniently, the Rockets are about $3 mil short of having enough cap room to sign Howard outright, instead of needing a sign-and-trade to get it done.  Getting a pick to use on a draft-and-stash in Europe seems worth it to be about the only playoff team with an in tact roster Howard could sign with outright.

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2013, 01:22:31 AM »

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We're gonna get him. He was the most NBA-ready player in the draft last year, we're gonna snag him for a first (hopefully).
Have you watched him play? he was not nba ready. Sullinger was for sure, but not t-rob.  It's incredible that already a 2nd team is trying to trade him, despite Robinson not spending a year in the league.

This is strange to me, too. The fact that he's about to be traded a second time.

Some argue the Rockets are selling him short for cap relief. But isn't a rookie contract insignificant?

I worry that it might be some behind the scenes stuff, like the possibility that he's "uncoachable" and such.

Color me intrigued with some caution. I'd definitely say yes to 16 for him.

However, as reported by this article, Houston is not specifying what pick they want. Perhaps they're just more excited about one of the higher picks this draft than T-Rob.

Rookie contracts aren't insignificant.  They're generally not back-breaking, but he's due over $3 mil next year.  Conveniently, the Rockets are about $3 mil short of having enough cap room to sign Howard outright, instead of needing a sign-and-trade to get it done.  Getting a pick to use on a draft-and-stash in Europe seems worth it to be about the only playoff team with an in tact roster Howard could sign with outright.

Was also wondering why they wouldn't just get rid of Royce White for a 2nd or something. This answers it.

TP. Did not know about how just short they are, just knew the fact that they are short on cap space.

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2013, 01:22:58 AM »

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Im so on board with that.

They can take Bass too if they need someore sugar to sweeten the deal.

I'm pretty sure that the only reason they're trading T-Rob is to clear up cap space for Howard/CP3.

I doubt Bass and his contract is sugar to them...maybe some pickle juice...mixed with vinegar...and death.
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Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2013, 02:34:30 AM »

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#16 in this draft for T-Rob. Im all for it. reminds me a fair bit of tristan thompson. Took him a year to get into into T-Rob can be a solid contributer on most teams.

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2013, 02:34:45 AM »

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 It does completely matter who is on the board at that point.

 On one hand he's a little redundant an undersized yet athletic Power forward.

 On the other hand with Sully's back worries it would help solidify the PF position for the future where we have a few years to decide between the two.

 If there is not a shot blocking center or a two guard that could light it up. I would consider it.

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2013, 03:31:21 AM »

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I would like him, but we dont need another undersized PF

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2013, 05:06:24 AM »

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thoughts on jaamal franklin? dont know why he is not getting looked at with the 16 pick

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2013, 05:47:50 AM »

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I'd be down with this dependant upon who is left on the board at 16. I think it makes a lot of sense to take a chance on him and hope he's just been a victim of circumstance in his first year - drafted into that hot mess that is the Kings, and sat on the bench at Hou due to them making a run to the playoffs.

He's definitely very raw but he was an off-the-bench guy behind the Morris twins his first two years at Kansas, and only played 7.2 & 14.6 mins per game in those years. He's got good physical attributes and, if we are rebuilding/tanking, it seems worth a punt to give him some quality minutes and see if his skills can increase.

I think his back story plays a part in this too (can be read here). The guy has to be feeling that his chance of a solid NBA career (and future for him and his sister) has slipped dramatically this year. Gotta be worth giving a guy with his apparent work ethic and drive, and that reason for motivation, a shot to pan out.

Wherever he ends up I'll be rooting for him to get it together.

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2013, 07:12:07 AM »

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16th for him depends on who is available i guess.
he has quite a bit of athletic potential, which makes up for his height (or lack of). his quickness intrigues me, as he would be able to beat most 4's of the dribble. i would say yes if we got him for the 16th
at worst he's third string 4.
i think houston didnt play him because of their playoff run, and being drafted into that hole that is Sacramento didnt really help him.
from what i've heard about him he has all the drive in the world. i say, if we can, give him a shot

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2013, 07:45:38 AM »

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he doesn't possess one above average NBA trait.
He's an above average athlete for sure. He also has above average hustle. I'm a big fan. This is the type of player we want running on the open court.

We would trade the 16th pick in a crappy draft for what the 5th or sixth pick in a good draft last year? No hesitation.
If there was a redraft Robinson surely wouldn't go 5 or 6.
looking at the draft he probably goes 7 or 8.  Clearly Lillard, Barnes, and Drummond from behind him move up, but he could jump Waiters who had an awful shooting year. 
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Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2013, 07:48:56 AM »

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he doesn't possess one above average NBA trait.

I don't understand why you would say this. If you mean skill, he's an elite elite rebounder. If he you mean trait, he's a tremendous athlete with unusual strength and a 7'3 wingspan.

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2013, 07:54:40 AM »

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he doesn't possess one above average NBA trait.

I don't understand why you would say this. If you mean skill, he's an elite elite rebounder. If he you mean trait, he's a tremendous athlete with unusual strength and a 7'3 wingspan.
yeah, its true. i dont get what u mean

Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2013, 09:44:52 AM »

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Some day, I'm going to understand this blog's fascination with overpaying for limited players. See DeAndre Jordan for further information.

Today is not that day.

NO chance I move the 16 for Thomas Robinson. None.
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Re: T.Rob for the #16
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2013, 09:51:05 AM »

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Some day, I'm going to understand this blog's fascination with overpaying for limited players. See DeAndre Jordan for further information.

Today is not that day.

NO chance I move the 16 for Thomas Robinson. None.

You would think people would realize that a lottery pick who is a bust his first year is far more likely to be a bust overall than his lottery position would suggest.