Celtics and Clippers need to convince the NBA that the deals are not contingent

[lightspeed5]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

[Roy H.]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

Wouldn't a pretty easy work around just be to trade KG for Jordan and the two picks?

Then, the only trade isn't really contingent on anything.  The Celtics absolutely have the right to let Doc out of his contract, and wherever he signs is up to him.

[LarBrd33]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

Wouldn't a pretty easy work around just be to trade KG for Jordan and the two picks?

Then, the only trade isn't really contingent on anything.  The Celtics absolutely have the right to let Doc out of his contract, and wherever he signs is up to him.

Maybe they worry that if they accepted that trade, Ainge would say "lol you fell for it!" and refuse to let Doc out of his contract.

And actually... Ainge probably would do that.  That's why you gotta love that we have Ainge as our GM.  Dude is worthy of being Auerbach's heir. 

[lightspeed5]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

Wouldn't a pretty easy work around just be to trade KG for Jordan and the two picks?

Then, the only trade isn't really contingent on anything.  The Celtics absolutely have the right to let Doc out of his contract, and wherever he signs is up to him.

Maybe they worry that if they accepted that trade, Ainge would say "lol you fell for it!" and refuse to let Doc out of his contract.

And actually... Ainge probably would do that.  That's why you gotta love that we have Ainge as our GM.  Dude is worthy of being Auerbach's heir.

lol yeah I can see Ainge doing that. Thats what I was thinking the whole time.

[timobusa]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

Wouldn't a pretty easy work around just be to trade KG for Jordan and the two picks?

Then, the only trade isn't really contingent on anything.  The Celtics absolutely have the right to let Doc out of his contract, and wherever he signs is up to him.

Maybe they worry that if they accepted that trade, Ainge would say "lol you fell for it!" and refuse to let Doc out of his contract.

And actually... Ainge probably would do that.  That's why you gotta love that we have Ainge as our GM.  Dude is worthy of being Auerbach's heir.

lol yeah I can see Ainge doing that. Thats what I was thinking the whole time.

Ainge WOULD do that! And that would be hella funny.

But I wan't DOC gone though.
I don't want to watch small ball anymore.

[LooseCannon]

But I wan't DOC gone though.
I don't want to watch small ball anymore.

How will you feel if Doc's Clippers don't play very much smallball?

[crimson_stallion]

Not sure why this hasn't already been considered, but why don't we simply expand the trade to include Pierce for Butler?

Garnett for Jordan + 1st Round Pick
Pierce for Butler + 1st Round Pick
Doc gets cleared to sign for the Clippers

This works for everybody, right? 

We get Butler's $8M expiring contract, plus he'd make a great backup SF to play behind Green.  Clippers get Pierce either way, so they won't need Butler anymore...may as well let him go.

I guess the downside for the Clippers is that if Pierce got traded to them, they'd need to pay him the full $16.5M of the contract (just as we would) if they want to keep him.  On the other hand if we buy him out for the guaranteed $5M they are free to negotiate a reduced contract with him. 

[PhoSita]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

Wouldn't a pretty easy work around just be to trade KG for Jordan and the two picks?

Then, the only trade isn't really contingent on anything.  The Celtics absolutely have the right to let Doc out of his contract, and wherever he signs is up to him.

Maybe they worry that if they accepted that trade, Ainge would say "lol you fell for it!" and refuse to let Doc out of his contract.

And actually... Ainge probably would do that.  That's why you gotta love that we have Ainge as our GM.  Dude is worthy of being Auerbach's heir.

While the "lol you fell for it" thing is laugh out loud funny, unless Ainge never wants to trade with another team again, I have a difficult time seeing that happening.

[SHAQATTACK]

Everyone and therie mother knows this deal is all about   CP3  , and "HIS" putting together a dream team for "HIM" to be on.

The CLippers are just eh VECHICLE by which CP3 is hoping to accomplish this...becasue he wants to live in LA and win Chamionships ...so he bases  "HIS " team out of LA

SO who really runs the Clippers , the GM or CP3 .

CP3 of course. 

So basically the NBA has come down to letting about 5-6 players determine the whole ball of wax. for 700 players and 30 cities or so.

Stern needs to do something...... all the PLAYERS are going to warm cities and basing their operations ,  see why the WEST is increasing it power over the eastern teams every year....

This trend will continue as long as STERN lets players build teams

CP3 and Howard are controlling the NBA in the West .   TO the point , that now they are robbing the east of nearly all the star talent to  the West , save Miami and Melo at the Knicks.

Will STERN let CP3 redirect the entire direction of the NBA 

I hope not.

CP3 is destroying the Celtics , while waiting on his buddy DH to decide how to screw over the LAKERS

Sure the deals are ALL ABOUT "WHAT CP3 s"  and the CLippers are happy to help him..

CP3 could easier just come to the Celtics , but that would cramp his life style in LA

 The NBA is becoming a KARDASHIAN like media drama , with little to do about TEAM BASKETBALL

PUKE on the NBA and CP3

[SHAQATTACK]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing.

anybody with an IQ over 50 knows this is being violated .   Every 16 year old who follows basketball realizes , this whole thing was backdoor from the start ,  with CP3 getting DOC and KG on board with his scheme , and CLippers doing everything he asks as he makes the phone calls and calls the shots.....Clippers are just writing checks for CP3 to build a team.

[BballTim]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9404760/trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-boston-celtics-back-sources-say-doc-rivers-danny-ainge-meeting

However, ESPN.com has learned the teams will have at least one more hurdle to clear even if they finally agree to a trade framework after days of talks and multiple breakdowns in discussions.

Sources say the Clippers and Celtics, to push the trade through, will have to convince the league office that the deals were not contingent upon each other. According to NBA rules, side agreements or contingencies are prohibited in any trade or free-agent signing. Rules also prohibit coaches from being traded; teams can convey cash or draft picks as compensation to get a coach under contract released from those obligations.

Wouldn't a pretty easy work around just be to trade KG for Jordan and the two picks?

Then, the only trade isn't really contingent on anything.  The Celtics absolutely have the right to let Doc out of his contract, and wherever he signs is up to him.

Maybe they worry that if they accepted that trade, Ainge would say "lol you fell for it!" and refuse to let Doc out of his contract.

And actually... Ainge probably would do that.  That's why you gotta love that we have Ainge as our GM.  Dude is worthy of being Auerbach's heir.

 Yes, because no future coach that they'd ever want to hire would pass on the job if that happened...

[greg_kite]

There is no way to hide the fact that the deals are contingent.  But there is a way to justify it:  KG's no trade clause.

Because KG would only bypass the no trade clause if Doc is his coach the C's have to let Doc go if they want to get Jordan.  Everyone in the world knows this is a two for one deal, it just isn't necessarily the team's decision.  They would probably prefer trading KG and keeping Doc.

[clover]

Of course they're contingent.  But that doesn't mean compensation for Doc is part of the KG trade.  The C's could be not interested in trading KG, at least for what they'd be getting from the Clips, unless Doc is no longer their coach .  (Because, for example, they could be afraid that if Doc leaves KG would retire and they'd rather trade him than have him retire on them.)