Forsberg: Doc may have burned bridges

[lightspeed5]

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9393805/doc-rivers-burned-bridges-boston-celtics

[WeMadeIt17]

Yeah a lot of us including me said that this is probably the case yesterday. For me how do you come back and face the media? How to you really make us Celtics fans believe that you wanna be here? Idk i think he has gone to far and thats one reason this deal gets done. 

[D.o.s.]

This thread should have been titled "Forsberg: A possibility that Doc might have burned bridges, maybe."

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Please help me out here because I'm seriously confused.

I know he hasn't made a decision yet on returning or not. But is there ever any report about Doc really saying he doesn't want to coach the Celtics and would rather coach the Clips?

If there is then I agree, he probably burned bridges. Otherwise, I don't see the problem here, just a coach exploring his options.

[lightspeed5]

title changed to doc may have burned bridges.

[LarBrd33]

Well it's not like Doc ever played for Boston. 



MOre disappointed to hear that KG would even consider leaving Boston, but KG probably figures of Boston doesn't want him he'll stop being a burden on them and accept a trade. 

[LGC88]

Danny is making a favor to KG & Doc (competing for a title instead of having a boring year) while starting a fast rebuild in Boston. He's doing a favor to the clippers and they will be stupid to not take this opportunity to keep CP3 and have a very good chance for the title and take some TV rights from LAL. Unless Clippers have a very good plan B, they will be stupid to refuse that deal (DJ + EB + 1st pick)

As for Doc he always said it's about the celtics or his family. So I don't think for a second he changed his mind. He's a very stubborn all fashion guy that hardly change his mind (we often criticize him for that, remember).
KG has been pushed from Danny and he probably thinks that it's for the best interested of the celtics to waive his no trade clause.

There are no burned bridges here, in fact it's a favor for everybody and everyone is in a win scenario.

[ianboyextreme]

Danny is making a favor to KG & Doc (competing for a title instead of having a boring year) while starting a fast rebuild in Boston. He's doing a favor to the clippers and they will be stupid to not take this opportunity to keep CP3 and have a very good chance for the title and take some TV rights from LAL. Unless Clippers have a very good plan B, they will be stupid to refuse that deal (DJ + EB + 1st pick)

As for Doc he always said it's about the celtics or his family. So I don't think for a second he changed his mind. He's a very stubborn all fashion guy that hardly change his mind (we often criticize him for that, remember).
KG has been pushed from Danny and he probably thinks that it's for the best interested of the celtics to waive his no trade clause.

There are no burned bridges here, in fact it's a favor for everybody and everyone is in a win scenario.

I feel like thats trying to justify what deep down is an unhonorable decision. I dont blame you for seeing the bright side of it but if I made a decision like what Doc is supposedly comtemplating, I would feel bad about it later in life, knowing that I had a chance to be an exception to the cutthroat ways of professional sports and cast that oppurtunity aside.

[PaulPierce34G]

The media is probably making this worse than it really is.  DA has probably been talking here and there with Doc and KG in recent days.  The media is portraying it as if Doc is whispering into the Clippers ears what he wants and is now the enemy to Boston. 

I'm definitely a little ticked at Doc' I won't lie.  He signed the 5 year deal, and while I understand sometimes you want to step away and take a breather, it def hurts a bit to see that he is being enticed/considering wanting to coach somewhere else next season.  Yes, I know he helped bring a banner to Boston, etc., etc.  I know, I know...and that he paid his 'dues', so therefore he can sort of do what he wants to a degree.  I'm not trying to start a debate on that...Just simply stating how I feel about the possibility of his departure.  It's kind of like a girl dating you and then she is considering other alternatives, all while still being with you...kind of.

At any rate, it's a double edged sword.  I definitely agree that this potential move, if the Cs can somehow land EB in the deal, along with a second 1st rounder, will be a pretty good deal for Boston and help jump start the rebuild due to the acquisition of assets.  But then, if they all stay, next season will most likely play out like this past season...1st or 2nd round playoff exit.  It will suck losing KG and Doc for numerous reasons, both basketball and sentimental value-wise.  I think if Doc does decide to stay in Boston and coach next season, it will most definitely be awkward early on and take a bit of time for healing.  We will just have to wait and see how this whole show plays out.  At least in the next 1-2 weeks, we will have a better understanding of the direction the franchise is heading in and can exhale a bit. 

I am definitely down with the rebuild.  I will miss KG, Doc and Pierce if all of this stuff comes into fruition, but I'm ready to get the train rolling to hopefully usher in a new era in the next few seasons and get back to being considered a legitimate contender...no more of this 'puncher's chance' gig.  That's just a nice way of saying, "If everything happens a certain way, it's possible to win it all...but most likely not."

[LGC88]

Danny is making a favor to KG & Doc (competing for a title instead of having a boring year) while starting a fast rebuild in Boston. He's doing a favor to the clippers and they will be stupid to not take this opportunity to keep CP3 and have a very good chance for the title and take some TV rights from LAL. Unless Clippers have a very good plan B, they will be stupid to refuse that deal (DJ + EB + 1st pick)

As for Doc he always said it's about the celtics or his family. So I don't think for a second he changed his mind. He's a very stubborn all fashion guy that hardly change his mind (we often criticize him for that, remember).
KG has been pushed from Danny and he probably thinks that it's for the best interested of the celtics to waive his no trade clause.

There are no burned bridges here, in fact it's a favor for everybody and everyone is in a win scenario.

I feel like thats trying to justify what deep down is an unhonorable decision. I dont blame you for seeing the bright side of it but if I made a decision like what Doc is supposedly comtemplating, I would feel bad about it later in life, knowing that I had a chance to be an exception to the cutthroat ways of professional sports and cast that oppurtunity aside.

Of course, I agree with you. For all we know, maybe the ambiance in the locker room and with Danny was horrible and Doc and KG have enough of it and want to run away.
Maybe this is just shark business and Danny said to Doc, "it's either you take the deal or you won't be able to coach for 3 years". And for KG, maybe he said, "well up to you, we are tanking this season, you go to the clippers with Doc or you learn how to lose this year."
At the end of the season we'll never know the truth but one  thing I'm sure is that something similar like I said in my previous post will be said by Doc KG and Danny in an official interview to calm down the drama and pacify with the fans. Either you believe what they will say or not, it doesn't matter.

[NocturnalRebel]

Doc probably did burn some bridges here. He let his loyalty be known when he signed his extension and he stated he'll come back until he say he's not coming back. This Clipper mess does make me look at Doc sideways a bit but I still want him as head coach of this team.

Loyalty has faded in this league. I'd hate to see Doc as someone who bent on his loyalty to this team but I don't believe Doc would be considering coaching elsewhere if his loyalty really lied in Boston like he led tha players and us fans to believe. I understand tha NBA is a business and players, coaches, and these GM's always look to put themselves in good situations and I also understand making moves while you can to prevent getting stuck in a situation with no room for improvement but these Celtics - more specifically our big 3 - have become more than just a head coach with a 15 man roster under Doc.

This mess with tha Clippers have really put Doc in a awkward situation with this team whether this deal falls through or not. This was just supposed to be Doc "detoxing", not Doc considering coaching CP3/Bledsoe in Clipper land and taking KG with him. It's now obvious Doc still wants to coach but is KG and Pierce his only ties to Boston? Does he know for a fact Ainge plans to rebuild and he changed his mind about being a part of it? Or does he just not believe in tha Celtics if they are to be without KG and Pierce? Whether there is actual interest between tha Clippers and Doc or whether this is a very bad episode of Punk'd, this has raised a lot of questions. And although Doc has yet to come out and say anything, he may have burned some bridges. Not only with tha fans but probably with tha players. Terry and Lee came here because of him. Doc is part of tha reason Jeff Green re-signed, and Doc is tha coach Rondo loves and probably only wants to play for.

As someone mentioned above me, this could be tha media making this look worse on Doc's end or it could be tha fact i'm still lit after hanging with some Spurs fans here in SA and i'm looking deeper into this more than I should. But either way, this has made Doc to look like he's dropping a duece on this organization and him and/or Danny should come out to dead this madness.

[LGC88]

Sounds to me like the clippers are pulling the strings with the media to make Danny believes he can't have Doc back coaching in Boston and accept their deal without EB.

[Celtics4ever]

This mess with tha Clippers have really put Doc in a awkward situation with this team whether this deal falls through or not. This was just supposed to be Doc "detoxing", not Doc considering coaching CP3/Bledsoe in Clipper land and taking KG with him. It's now obvious Doc still wants to coach but is KG and Pierce his only ties to Boston? Does he know for a fact Ainge plans to rebuild and he changed his mind about being a part of it? Or does he just not believe in tha Celtics if they are to be without KG and Pierce? Whether there is actual interest between tha Clippers and Doc or whether this is a very bad episode of Punk'd, this has raised a lot of questions. And although Doc has yet to come out and say anything, he may have burned some bridges. Not only with tha fans but probably with tha players. Terry and Lee came here because of him. Doc is part of tha reason Jeff Green re-signed, and Doc is tha coach Rondo loves and probably only wants to play for.

It's Doc's own fault for opening his pie hole in the first place to media.   He was an idiot in this whole affair.  If he kept his mouth shut deals could have been made but he did not.   Now everyone, LA, Danny and Doc all have more pressure on them because of Doc.  He is guilty of malpractice!

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

hit the road doc and don't ya come back no more no more no more no more.

[SHAQATTACK]

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9393805/doc-rivers-burned-bridges-boston-celtics

of course he did....and with out remorse......slime ball ...what a underhanded way to leave....there are correct diplomatic ways to leave or ask out .   

there is a thing called code of ethics, morals and such......people who don't believe in such need to Grow up ...

Dear Doc,

Hate you as much as you hate Boston

Don't trust him anymore.

Kick him out Danny.    After Cp3 signs somewhere else