Fire Ainge!

[tarheelsxxiii]

And that's the crux of the matter, to my mind--If Daniels didn't go out like that, Perk never gets traded, we don't need to bank our title hopes on the perpetually injured O'Neil brothers, and who knows what would've happened in the playoffs?

That's an interesting take. Not sure if Perk's demand for money was the determining factor, but maybe Daniels' injury did have a considerable impact too.

[Boris Badenov]

If this deal doesn't go down its just another one of the many swings and misses in the career of Danny Ainge during the Big 3 era. Trading Brooks for JJJ, Trading Perk for Jeff Green, drafting J.R. Giddings. Not moving Ray for Mayo and a 1st at the 2011 deadline. Now trying to get too cute with the Clippers and holding them up for a top 15-20 coach that is severely overrated and a washed up future HOFer in KG. A few other swings and misses are Lee, Bradley, Sheed, oh and Brandon Bass' amazing contract. He really isn't a good GM and the only reason him and Rivers had a job after 2007 was due to the fact "Kevin" was his buddy in Minnesota. Oh not to mention that he held onto Rondo way too long and now the guy has zero trade value due to his injury.

And there you have it, kids. Danny Ainge is a bad GM because he didn't use his magic 8 ball to see into the future and trade Rondo before he tore his ACL.

[eugen]

Can we fire the original poster.  Ainge has made up competitive again and we got a championship under his watch.

DA should have been fired long time ago for catastrophic money management. Financially speaking he is a totally incompetent.
Facts: Giving PP at age of 35, 15mill/year and giving KG at age of 36 12mill/year, leaving to go Ray for zero money and reducing the salary management in a wrong way where is does not know how to resolve this rebus he created. No anybody has analyzed poor money management he made and as consequence this team is in a critical financial situation almost impossible to see the future and built the future. PP case is only the top of iceberg.
Stop defendim him, if you feel yourself a Cs fan.In any kind of sports, the manager firstly takes care of money managment. If not, bye bye

[D.o.s.]

And that's the crux of the matter, to my mind--If Daniels didn't go out like that, Perk never gets traded, we don't need to bank our title hopes on the perpetually injured O'Neil brothers, and who knows what would've happened in the playoffs?

That's an interesting take. Not sure if Perk's demand for money was the determining factor, but maybe Daniels' injury did have a considerable impact too.

Perk was definitely going to be in a different uniform at the start of 2011, but I'd bet a significant amount of money that Ainge doesn't do that trade during the season if Marquis doesn't go down, sign and trade deals being much easier to accomplish under the last CBA.

Of course, the lockout was looming, so that's another wrinkle.

[GreenEnvy]

Can we fire the original poster.  Ainge has made up competitive again and we got a championship under his watch.

DA should have been fired long time ago for catastrophic money management. Financially speaking he is a totally incompetent.
Facts: Giving PP at age of 35, 15mill/year and giving KG at age of 36 12mill/year, leaving to go Ray for zero money and reducing the salary management in a wrong way where is does not know how to resolve this rebus he created. No anybody has analyzed poor money management he made and as consequence this team is in a critical financial situation almost impossible to see the future and built the future. PP case is only the top of iceberg.
Stop defendim him, if you feel yourself a Cs fan.In any kind of sports, the manager firstly takes care of money managment. If not, bye bye

Didn't Pierce just average like 19/8/7 after Rondo went down? He still had better numbers than Paul George at age 35. Garnett still plays defense as good as anyone in the League, still knocks down shots and look at his rebounding numbers in the playoffs. Neither are drastically overpaid if you disregard their age and just look at production.

Ray Allen would not have been a bargain at $6M like we offered him, and had Ainge offered more, he would have been drastically overpaid.

You can blame Ainge for plenty, but he is usually good with the per year value of a contract.

[eugen]

You can blame Ainge for plenty, but he is usually good with the per year value of a contract.

He is isually very bad in managing the money...Now he is tryiing to send put PP beacuse there is no other option

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Can we fire the original poster.  Ainge has made up competitive again and we got a championship under his watch.

DA should have been fired long time ago for catastrophic money management. Financially speaking he is a totally incompetent.
Facts: Giving PP at age of 35, 15mill/year and giving KG at age of 36 12mill/year, leaving to go Ray for zero money and reducing the salary management in a wrong way where is does not know how to resolve this rebus he created. No anybody has analyzed poor money management he made and as consequence this team is in a critical financial situation almost impossible to see the future and built the future. PP case is only the top of iceberg.
Stop defendim him, if you feel yourself a Cs fan.In any kind of sports, the manager firstly takes care of money managment. If not, bye bye

Didn't Pierce just average like 19/8/7 after Rondo went down? He still had better numbers than Paul George at age 35. Garnett still plays defense as good as anyone in the League, still knocks down shots and look at his rebounding numbers in the playoffs. Neither are drastically overpaid if you disregard their age and just look at production.

Ray Allen would not have been a bargain at $6M like we offered him, and had Ainge offered more, he would have been drastically overpaid.

You can blame Ainge for plenty, but he is usually good with the per year value of a contract.

Add to the fact that Jeff Green blossoming is not looking like a steal of a contract ($8-9 million a year).

Also, the biggest steal would be Rondo's contract. How's that for money mismanaging?

And of course, the conversation will lead to the Jet and Lee signing. They had bad years, but the contracts they have are their market value and most if not all teams would be them the same money they are making right now. Not Danny's fault for those guys to flunk.

I'd be disappointed if Danny trades KG for DeAndre, but I won't call for his head. He's done a lot of good things.

[jv2764]

Green and Bradley were "swing and misses"? Are you on crack? Bradley possesses, not only the best perimeter defense in the league, but the most aggressive I've ever seen. Green has the potential to be one of the top SFs in the league. Even KG himself said that Green could be one of the GOAT.

Green for Perk is a no-brainer.  I do that trade everyday and twice on Sunday. 

[SHAQATTACK]

I believe Danny's future is somewhat at stake here.   Not blaming him either way ,  just saying , the owners are expecting Danny to get a "WIN" out of this mess,  it's his job to right the ship as it is floundering.

Short term Danny is safe,  but the C's not coming out to the good is going to look bad down the road as things get worse during the rebuild.

Danny is earning his paycheck ........

the pressure is on......

to made a good deal. .....if there is one to be made.

[BballTim]

Can we fire the original poster.  Ainge has made up competitive again and we got a championship under his watch.

DA should have been fired long time ago for catastrophic money management. Financially speaking he is a totally incompetent.
Facts: Giving PP at age of 35, 15mill/year and giving KG at age of 36 12mill/year, leaving to go Ray for zero money and reducing the salary management in a wrong way where is does not know how to resolve this rebus he created. No anybody has analyzed poor money management he made and as consequence this team is in a critical financial situation almost impossible to see the future and built the future. PP case is only the top of iceberg.
Stop defendim him, if you feel yourself a Cs fan.In any kind of sports, the manager firstly takes care of money managment. If not, bye bye

  You need to look a little more at the PP deal before you criticize it. When you consider the deal he opted out of and the non-guaranteed part of the new deal it's much better than you think it is.

[satch]

Yeah let's go back to the pre-ainge days.

[CelticConcourse]

Lee, Bass, Green, Bradley (rook), Rondo, Sully (rook), Terry, KG are all decent contracts. We don't have any deadweight like John Salmons or Charlie Villanueva per se. Or that Rashard Lewis stuff

Ainge has been very good with the $

Pierce earned it with his loyalty.

[cb8883]

Yeah let's go back to the pre-ainge days.

Not even...that 2006-2007 squad...if we had kept Big Al, Perk, G-Money, got assets for Pierce and tanked for Rose then we would have been in a MUCH BETTER position than we are now. Probably would be a contender this year/next year. Not to mention we could have traded the overrated Rondo for DMC/Tyreke.

[CelticConcourse]

Yeah let's go back to the pre-ainge days.

Not even...that 2006-2007 squad...if we had kept Big Al, Perk, G-Money, got assets for Pierce and tanked for Rose then we would have been in a MUCH BETTER position than we are now. Probably would be a contender this year/next year. Not to mention we could have traded the overrated Rondo for DMC.

Jesus. You do realize that the Bulls won the draft with the 9th worst record in the league and a 1.7% chance? It's called a lottery for a reason. And traded the overrated Rondo for DMC? This argument has so many holes in it that I can't explain at all.

This is SEVEN YEARS ago. You can't predict anything seven years from now.

[CelticsFan9]

Great idea.

Fire the guy who's already been through a rebuild and who built a championship squad.