Why won't Danny man-up? Give ideas

[kgainez]

I think this Doc/Kg/PP "pregnancy" pact is gross and is reminiscent of things tweener girls do. There was a quote somewhere that Doc shouldn't let his loyalty essentially keep him somewhere he doesn't want to be just on the basis of being loyal. If he's not excited about the future, then let's find someone who is. And I think that should go for everyone.

So, with all the speculation and this thing going quickly downhill, I'm wondering why DA doesn't just be a man. Tell Doc to go. Accept a great trade for Paul. Convince KG to waive his clause and get something good for him (they'll probably end up in the same place...cuz ykno...they're BFFs and can't leave each other  ), keep Rondo and sign some free agent steals.

Danny Ainge is the guy who drafted Rondo, Jeff Green (though we didn't keep him), AB, Sullinger and got Ray Allen for pennies...got KG for pennies...got Lee this off-season for scrubs and has also seen his 3 year plan in the big 3 be competitive for AT LEAST 5 years and get 1 ring.

My question is what do you think DA should do now?

[nickagneta]

I think this Doc/Kg/PP "pregnancy" pact is gross and is reminiscent of things tweener girls do. There was a quote somewhere that Doc shouldn't let his loyalty essentially keep him somewhere he doesn't want to be just on the basis of being loyal. If he's not excited about the future, then let's find someone who is. And I think that should go for everyone.

So, with all the speculation and this thing going quickly downhill, I'm wondering why DA doesn't just be a man. Tell Doc to go. Accept a great trade for Paul. Convince KG to waive his clause and get something good for him (they'll probably end up in the same place...cuz ykno...they're BFFs and can't leave each other  ), keep Rondo and sign some free agent steals.

Danny Ainge is the guy who drafted Rondo, Jeff Green (though we didn't keep him), AB, Sullinger and got Ray Allen for pennies...got KG for pennies...got Lee this off-season for scrubs and has also seen his 3 year plan in the big 3 be competitive for AT LEAST 5 years and get 1 ring.

My question is what do you think DA should do now?

Business management isn't about "manning up" or "being a man". Its about making the best decisions for your business. Weighing all the options, it is probably in the Celtics best interests to keep things fluid. There's just too much uncertainty about too many factors right now, including, getting good value back for any trades that might come up.

I think we will see a lot more certainty from the Celtics front office before the end of the month, when Pierce's contract needs a decision made on it by.

[Celtics18]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him. 

[kgainez]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I do not understand why you people are so hell bent on keeping guys here who genuinely don't want to be here.

[CelticConcourse]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I'm still with this philosophy

[Celtics18]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I do not understand why you people are so hell bent on keeping guys here who genuinely don't want to be here.

Where did you get the impression that Doc "genuinely" doesn't want to be here?

[gpap]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I don't. Time for a change.

[More Banners]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I do not understand why you people are so hell bent on keeping guys here who genuinely don't want to be here.

Interesting, that's pretty much what Larry Bird said when JO asked for a trade right before his base year.  He remembered someone getting traded here that didn't want to be here when he was a player, and respected that.

He also told JO that he couldn't trade him due to BYC rules; it wouldn't be a good move.  So he didn't.

As for Doc, as the highest paid coach, I'd spend quite a bit of time trying to find a reason to get excited at $7M per season.  I think only PJ has made more.

In any case, as much as I want to know how this is going to go, fluid is likely in the best interest of the team for players, and if Doc wants something else, I'd hold on to him like any other asset in a fluid situation (since teams are calling). 

Otherwise, I'd fire him for this Larry Brown impersonation.

[Celtics4ever]

My question is what do you think DA should do now?

One DA shows his plans he loses half of his bargaining power.   Better to keep it vague so other teams offer better value.   If they know it's a fire sale they will drive a hard bargain.

He is doing the right thing now by keeping people guessing.

[eugen]

The ownership have to fire DA. This team is getting worse. Drop to .500 score, elminated from 1st round of playoff. I do not know what to add more. Fire DA and bring Larry Bird.

[kgainez]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I do not understand why you people are so hell bent on keeping guys here who genuinely don't want to be here.

Where did you get the impression that Doc "genuinely" doesn't want to be here?

the idea with this holding out thing is not that Doc wants to be here. Regardless of who's going to be back next year, he should be excited and want to be a part of the Celtics. He's trying to manipulate the situation to be loyal to two players...and with all this smoke, there's going to be fire VERY soon.

There aren't a ton of positive speculations out there about Doc and him wanting to come back. It's about him needing to think or about him not enjoying DA and him wanting a change in status.

You guys can be oblivious if you want. But this is ridiculous. And when I say Ainge needs to man up, I'm saying he's over all of these guys. He's running a zoo right now and he needs to get some things together and stop letting everyone else call the shots. Yes he needs to make great business decisions, but you also don't let some guys try to manipulate your business decisions based on what THEY want.

If DA wants a rebuild, and he's thought that process out and feels like it's best for his organization, then if we're talking LOYALTY, KG/PP/Doc should respect that and act accordingly. Don't try to create a situation based on what you want.

It's the same reason why we hate Deron Williams for getting coaches fired. It's the same reason why we hate Dwight Howard for being a total jerk. They're being babies about things and trying to manipulate situations. It's obvious.

[kgainez]

The ownership have to fire DA. This tema is getting worse. Drop to .500 score, elminated form 1st round of playoff. I do not know what to add more. Fire DA and bring Larry Bird.

I don't know how you figure this is DA's fault. LOL
Sometimes I feel like DA is the only person trying...are you kidding me?

Have you seen the guys he's drafted? The trades he's pulled off? You're lying if you didn't think this team was going to be great on paper at the beginning of this season.

[eugen]

The ownership have to fire DA. This tema is getting worse. Drop to .500 score, elminated form 1st round of playoff. I do not know what to add more. Fire DA and bring Larry Bird.

I don't know how you figure this is DA's fault. LOL
Sometimes I feel like DA is the only person trying...are you kidding me?

Have you seen the guys he's drafted? The trades he's pulled off? You're lying if you didn't think this team was going to be great on paper at the beginning of this season.

The roster of this year was poor, plus injuries. What he did? Nothing...And most seroius think is he is gona do the same sh..t next year...Come on...He has to go.

[Celtics18]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I do not understand why you people are so hell bent on keeping guys here who genuinely don't want to be here.

Where did you get the impression that Doc "genuinely" doesn't want to be here?

the idea with this holding out thing is not that Doc wants to be here. Regardless of who's going to be back next year, he should be excited and want to be a part of the Celtics. He's trying to manipulate the situation to be loyal to two players...and with all this smoke, there's going to be fire VERY soon.

There aren't a ton of positive speculations out there about Doc and him wanting to come back. It's about him needing to think or about him not enjoying DA and him wanting a change in status.

You guys can be oblivious if you want. But this is ridiculous. And when I say Ainge needs to man up, I'm saying he's over all of these guys. He's running a zoo right now and he needs to get some things together and stop letting everyone else call the shots. Yes he needs to make great business decisions, but you also don't let some guys try to manipulate your business decisions based on what THEY want.

If DA wants a rebuild, and he's thought that process out and feels like it's best for his organization, then if we're talking LOYALTY, KG/PP/Doc should respect that and act accordingly. Don't try to create a situation based on what you want.

It's the same reason why we hate Deron Williams for getting coaches fired. It's the same reason why we hate Dwight Howard for being a total jerk. They're being babies about things and trying to manipulate situations. It's obvious.

I've got no problem with giving the man some time to decide what he wants to do with his own future.  I think he has earned that. 

As far as all your speculation about his motives or what's going on behind the scenes of the Celtics organization, it's just that--speculation. 

[nickagneta]

I hope Doc stays, and Paul and Kevin right along with him.

I do not understand why you people are so hell bent on keeping guys here who genuinely don't want to be here.

Where did you get the impression that Doc "genuinely" doesn't want to be here?

the idea with this holding out thing is not that Doc wants to be here. Regardless of who's going to be back next year, he should be excited and want to be a part of the Celtics. He's trying to manipulate the situation to be loyal to two players...and with all this smoke, there's going to be fire VERY soon.

There aren't a ton of positive speculations out there about Doc and him wanting to come back. It's about him needing to think or about him not enjoying DA and him wanting a change in status.

You guys can be oblivious if you want. But this is ridiculous. And when I say Ainge needs to man up, I'm saying he's over all of these guys. He's running a zoo right now and he needs to get some things together and stop letting everyone else call the shots. Yes he needs to make great business decisions, but you also don't let some guys try to manipulate your business decisions based on what THEY want.

If DA wants a rebuild, and he's thought that process out and feels like it's best for his organization, then if we're talking LOYALTY, KG/PP/Doc should respect that and act accordingly. Don't try to create a situation based on what you want.

It's the same reason why we hate Deron Williams for getting coaches fired. It's the same reason why we hate Dwight Howard for being a total jerk. They're being babies about things and trying to manipulate situations. It's obvious.

You are reading way too much into this. KG has already said he is back. Pierce will be back if Danny decides to keep him. Doc has been coaching 9 straight years and might be burnt out.

Danny is doing his best to keep trade value in his players and not allowing other teams to talk to Doc. You have zero idea whether Danny is shopping the players, looking for a rebuild this year, or looking for a rebuild next year when he will have lots of cap space. There is just way too many variables to make a definitive statement that Doc and Pierce and KG are manipulating anything. There just is not enough evidence except some speculation on Broussard's part and a couple of other people.

I'm waiting until after the draft and until a decision is made on Pierce's contract before jumping to wild conclusions here.