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Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« on: June 03, 2013, 11:39:18 PM »

Offline Smitty77

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Vogel cost Indy this series.  They likely would have won game one if he had NOT sat Hibbert, his only true rim protector, on two key plays late in that game.

Then, he decides to rest Hibbert and George for a key 5-6 minute stretch in the second quarter when the game was being blown open.

Indiana will NOT win a championship under Vogel's leadership.  They need a real coach such as Vinny Del Negro or Lionel Hollins to take that next step.  They don't have the talent to have a mediocre coach lead them to a title as do the Heat.

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P.S. If Larry returns to the front office, he has to consider this very difficult FACT.

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 11:41:56 PM »

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Really? How about Paul George doesn't play defense like a middle school player and Lebron doesn't get a layup. Vogel is a good coach. The pacers need a PG who can actually handle the ball and pass and they will be very tough to beat.

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 11:44:22 PM »

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I don't think it's Vogel's fault that Indy all of a sudden started to turn the ball over like they really wanted Miami to end them.

He did a heck of a job, he atleast deserves the next year.
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Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 11:46:06 PM »

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Yea, fire the only coach that has made Miami look like an ordinary and beatable team just for one or two mistakes.  These are thesame people calling for Doc's head after every losing game just because he couldn't turn a tired and very depleted team into a contender.  Unbelievable

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Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 11:48:18 PM »

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I agree that the Pacers need a true PG and some major bench help, but Vogel is an average coach at best.

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P.S.  Why did he not play Tyler Hansbrough and Gerald Green more???  Their ONLY change to win in Miami was to make it a physical war with Tyler instigating ala Bill Laimbeer IMHO.  That CLEARLY did NOT happen and we witnessed a blowout unfortunately.

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 11:51:01 PM »

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No way Vogel is the reason they lost that series.  How are the 15+ turnovers in the 1st half on Vogel?  Indiana just doesn't have the scorers that they need once Miami gets on track and rolling on defense.  Indiana was trying to get the ball into the post, but the Miami def effort was just smothering.  I would say the Pacers need another offensive threat more than they need to get rid of Vogel.

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 11:52:08 PM »

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Jason Terry could REALLY help the Pacers' bench!!!!  His veteran leadership would be huge!!

What can we get for him??

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Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 11:52:39 PM »

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I agree that the Pacers need a true PG and some major bench help, but Vogel is an average coach at best.

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P.S.  Why did he not play Tyler Hansbrough and Gerald Green more???  Their ONLY change to win in Miami was to make it a physical war with Tyler instigating ala Bill Laimbeer IMHO.  That CLEARLY did NOT happen and we witnessed a blowout unfortunately.

Gerald Green?  Did you watch him play during his limited minutes in the 2nd half?  It is game 7, Vogel was right not to give important minutes to Gerald Green.

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 11:54:03 PM »

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I was talking about for the playoffs and this ENTIRE series.  Sorry for not specifying.

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 11:55:34 PM »

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They need a real coach such as Vinny Del Negro or Lionel Hollins to take that next step.

Vinny Del Negro?

Not sure how I'm supposed to take this seriously.  Del Negro is terrible.

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2013, 11:55:55 PM »

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Mahinmi for Terry??  I would love to get their 2nd rounder this year as well.

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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2013, 11:56:50 PM »

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They need a real coach such as Vinny Del Negro or Lionel Hollins to take that next step.

Vinny Del Negro?

Not sure how I'm supposed to take this seriously.  Del Negro is terrible.

I agree trading Vogel for Vinny is a NOT a great swap for the Pacers.

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2013, 11:58:55 PM »

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Vinny ONLY won 61% of his games a year ago and 68% this year.

For the record, Doc won 59% and 51% the last two years.

Interesting, huh??

Oh, you were referring to Vinny's professional playing career?:-)))))

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2013, 11:59:34 PM »

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LOL

Re: Frank Vogel should be fired!!
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 12:00:03 AM »

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Blink,

How about a Jackson or Hollins for Vogel swap??

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