Shane Larkin is getting a hard hard look at from the Celtics

[Tr1boy]

I'm a big Larkin fan, but if we go with him at 16 I won't be happy.

To me the difference between Siva and Larkin is a jump shot. For an undersized point guard, if you can't shoot you are in deep trouble.

i would be happy.  How many over 6'1 foot height pg's are there in the league that are actually good?? How many under that are good? (lots)

Larkin is a complete pg, can score, pass, shoot, defensive player award winner. And prob the most impressive factor can take over games. Enough times i've heard announcers say this when he has played.

I would also be satisfied by drafting Siva. He is an excellent FT shooter with a fluid shooting technique and prob hasn't had the need to shoot alot bc he is pretty hard to stop on the drive. In the nba, he will realize that he is going to need and get his jumper to work. I've rarely seen a player who can really shoot ft well , that cna't at least shoot a mid range jumper at a decent clip.

Two other pg's i wouldn't mind drafting are Pierre Jackson (Nate Robinson) and Ray Mccallum. 

All of these guys have potential to start in the nba one day.

A lot of dominant point guards are over 6'1... Rose/Wall/Rondo isn't exactly over 6'1, but his wing span makes up for it. D-Will, Curry, Tony Parker, George Hill (isn't exactly dominant, but no scrub,) and Westbrook.

Need I go on?

Rose yes. Wall??  D will?? George hill??

Wall and Hill are not pure pg's . Curry is not a pure pg. I mean he looks for his own shot more often than not

D will has done nothing in his career to warrant he is elite.

Westbrook yes, Parker yes.

Larkins lack of elite size is a dumb reason to not consider him as a blue chip prospect.  This is my point

[Evantime34]

I'm a big Larkin fan, but if we go with him at 16 I won't be happy.

To me the difference between Siva and Larkin is a jump shot. For an undersized point guard, if you can't shoot you are in deep trouble.

i would be happy.  How many over 6'1 foot height pg's are there in the league that are actually good?? How many under that are good? (lots)

Larkin is a complete pg, can score, pass, shoot, defensive player award winner. And prob the most impressive factor can take over games. Enough times i've heard announcers say this when he has played.

I would also be satisfied by drafting Siva. He is an excellent FT shooter with a fluid shooting technique and prob hasn't had the need to shoot alot bc he is pretty hard to stop on the drive. In the nba, he will realize that he is going to need and get his jumper to work. I've rarely seen a player who can really shoot ft well , that cna't at least shoot a mid range jumper at a decent clip.

Two other pg's i wouldn't mind drafting are Pierre Jackson (Nate Robinson) and Ray Mccallum. 

All of these guys have potential to start in the nba one day.

A lot of dominant point guards are over 6'1... Rose/Wall/Rondo isn't exactly over 6'1, but his wing span makes up for it. D-Will, Curry, Tony Parker, George Hill (isn't exactly dominant, but no scrub,) and Westbrook.

Need I go on?

Rose yes. Wall??  D will?? George hill??

Wall and Hill are not pure pg's . Curry is not a pure pg. I mean he looks for his own shot more often than not

D will has done nothing in his career to warrant he is elite.

Westbrook yes, Parker yes.

Larkins lack of elite size is a dumb reason to not consider him as a blue chip prospect.  This is my point

He doesn't lack elite size, he lacks average NBA size.

[Tr1boy]

I'm a big Larkin fan, but if we go with him at 16 I won't be happy.

To me the difference between Siva and Larkin is a jump shot. For an undersized point guard, if you can't shoot you are in deep trouble.

i would be happy.  How many over 6'1 foot height pg's are there in the league that are actually good?? How many under that are good? (lots)

Larkin is a complete pg, can score, pass, shoot, defensive player award winner. And prob the most impressive factor can take over games. Enough times i've heard announcers say this when he has played.

I would also be satisfied by drafting Siva. He is an excellent FT shooter with a fluid shooting technique and prob hasn't had the need to shoot alot bc he is pretty hard to stop on the drive. In the nba, he will realize that he is going to need and get his jumper to work. I've rarely seen a player who can really shoot ft well , that cna't at least shoot a mid range jumper at a decent clip.

Two other pg's i wouldn't mind drafting are Pierre Jackson (Nate Robinson) and Ray Mccallum. 

All of these guys have potential to start in the nba one day.

A lot of dominant point guards are over 6'1... Rose/Wall/Rondo isn't exactly over 6'1, but his wing span makes up for it. D-Will, Curry, Tony Parker, George Hill (isn't exactly dominant, but no scrub,) and Westbrook.

Need I go on?

Rose yes. Wall??  D will?? George hill??

Wall and Hill are not pure pg's . Curry is not a pure pg. I mean he looks for his own shot more often than not

D will has done nothing in his career to warrant he is elite.

Westbrook yes, Parker yes.

Larkins lack of elite size is a dumb reason to not consider him as a blue chip prospect.  This is my point

He doesn't lack elite size, he lacks average NBA size.

And what is this in your opinion?

5'11-6'1 the last time i checked was pretty avg height for a pg in the nba.

[MBz]

He has elite athleticism, I'm not too worried about his size.  He's not worth the 16th pick though.  If they want him they can trade down.

[#1P4P]

People would rather draft Jajuan Johnson again because of the need for a 5 than the best player available.

Why draft a PG when the roster has enough guards? Because it'll lower your chances of drafting a bust. Draft a good player and he becomes an asset; draft a bust and he's a bust... a wasted pick... a liability...

Whether Chris Paul resigns or leaves, the Clippers can flip Eric Bledsoe for Millsap or Jefferson if they want to go that route. Why? Because he's an asset that other teams covet. Let the C's try to use Jajuan Johnson as a centerpiece for a Millsap or Jefferson trade (aside from the fact that it isn't even a possibility because we traded him E'twaun, S Williams, and a 2nd round draft pick for Courtney Lee)... Really? (Click... Dial tone)... The Jazz would even be willing to take salary to make the numbers work for Bledsoe.

And if Chris Paul leaves, they have their PG for the future.

This isn't specifically about Larkin either, this is about taking the Best Player Available; no need for another D-leaguer just because we try to force it by drafting a big when there are better PA.

[Evantime34]

I'm a big Larkin fan, but if we go with him at 16 I won't be happy.

To me the difference between Siva and Larkin is a jump shot. For an undersized point guard, if you can't shoot you are in deep trouble.

i would be happy.  How many over 6'1 foot height pg's are there in the league that are actually good?? How many under that are good? (lots)

Larkin is a complete pg, can score, pass, shoot, defensive player award winner. And prob the most impressive factor can take over games. Enough times i've heard announcers say this when he has played.

I would also be satisfied by drafting Siva. He is an excellent FT shooter with a fluid shooting technique and prob hasn't had the need to shoot alot bc he is pretty hard to stop on the drive. In the nba, he will realize that he is going to need and get his jumper to work. I've rarely seen a player who can really shoot ft well , that cna't at least shoot a mid range jumper at a decent clip.

Two other pg's i wouldn't mind drafting are Pierre Jackson (Nate Robinson) and Ray Mccallum. 

All of these guys have potential to start in the nba one day.

A lot of dominant point guards are over 6'1... Rose/Wall/Rondo isn't exactly over 6'1, but his wing span makes up for it. D-Will, Curry, Tony Parker, George Hill (isn't exactly dominant, but no scrub,) and Westbrook.

Need I go on?

Rose yes. Wall??  D will?? George hill??

Wall and Hill are not pure pg's . Curry is not a pure pg. I mean he looks for his own shot more often than not

D will has done nothing in his career to warrant he is elite.

Westbrook yes, Parker yes.

Larkins lack of elite size is a dumb reason to not consider him as a blue chip prospect.  This is my point

He doesn't lack elite size, he lacks average NBA size.

And what is this in your opinion?

5'11-6'1 the last time i checked was pretty avg height for a pg in the nba.

6'1 is average. 5'11 is below average. He's 5'11.25

[Monkhouse]

I'm a big Larkin fan, but if we go with him at 16 I won't be happy.

To me the difference between Siva and Larkin is a jump shot. For an undersized point guard, if you can't shoot you are in deep trouble.

i would be happy.  How many over 6'1 foot height pg's are there in the league that are actually good?? How many under that are good? (lots)

Larkin is a complete pg, can score, pass, shoot, defensive player award winner. And prob the most impressive factor can take over games. Enough times i've heard announcers say this when he has played.

I would also be satisfied by drafting Siva. He is an excellent FT shooter with a fluid shooting technique and prob hasn't had the need to shoot alot bc he is pretty hard to stop on the drive. In the nba, he will realize that he is going to need and get his jumper to work. I've rarely seen a player who can really shoot ft well , that cna't at least shoot a mid range jumper at a decent clip.

Two other pg's i wouldn't mind drafting are Pierre Jackson (Nate Robinson) and Ray Mccallum. 

All of these guys have potential to start in the nba one day.

A lot of dominant point guards are over 6'1... Rose/Wall/Rondo isn't exactly over 6'1, but his wing span makes up for it. D-Will, Curry, Tony Parker, George Hill (isn't exactly dominant, but no scrub,) and Westbrook.

Need I go on?

Rose yes. Wall??  D will?? George hill??

Wall and Hill are not pure pg's . Curry is not a pure pg. I mean he looks for his own shot more often than not

D will has done nothing in his career to warrant he is elite.

Westbrook yes, Parker yes.

Larkins lack of elite size is a dumb reason to not consider him as a blue chip prospect.  This is my point

Want whatever you're smoking...

You consider Westbrook elite, yet disregard the fact in which at some point D-Will dominated. Considered the face of the franchise by the Jazz...

George Hill no, but it doesn't matter... He's still a PG... Listed as a PG... Plays as a combo guard... But is still a PG by default by the NBA.

You list the 2 players I consider hybrid guards, yet refuse to believe D-Will/Wall as one. Rose, and Westbrook.

I'm not saying don't draft Larkin... He has a lot of talent, but his size will still be a huge factor that DA will look into. Doc Rivers has been criticized heavily for using small ball, so this will definitely be something he'll think hard about.

And by the way the league average is 6'1. Larkin is listed as 5'10 without shoes, and 5'11 with shoes... So even then hes definitely undersized.

[ianboyextreme]

I don't think drafting a big is a necessity. We need to get a big, but it likely won't be through the draft. Any big man we draft won't play this year anyway. When drafting, always go for talent over position. Always.

Gorgui Dieng and Jeff Withey can without a doubt play right away and are better options than most free agent bigs.

[Eddie20]

IMO, Larkin is a Jameer Nelson clone. Very similar styles and size. To me it would be a great value pick.

[CelticConcourse]

And what is this in your opinion?

5'11-6'1 the last time i checked was pretty avg height for a pg in the nba.

said nobody. ever.

[lightspeed5]

shane's wingspan and height are below average, he'd have some of the shortest limbs in the nba.

[Sketch5]

I have a feeling that hey are going to buy a second round, maybe trade Melo for for a pick or two.

That way you can draft a PG who most likely will be ready to play then drafting a big at 16. And also draft a project big to replace Melo.

Larkin is projected to go 14th to the Jazz right now on draftexpress, but still a few weeks of these movements.

The argument that we have two many guards is bogus considering we most likely will be trade one or two of them. And the fact that out side of Rondo we have no other PG. Rather draft a pg and sign a big then the other way around this deep in the draft.

[CelticConcourse]

I have a feeling that hey are going to buy a second round, maybe trade Melo for for a pick or two.

I hope we can trade Melo for a pick or two! (doubtful, but hopeful!)