Celtics gave Dennis Schrouder the 1st round promise (Rumor)

[csfansince60s]

I find it really hard to believe that Danny would allow this to get out four weeks before the draft.  This HAS to be a smokescreen.  Additionally, I believe Danny uses the same guys every year to leak false info.  While he may like Schroeder, I don't think that's his primary target.  Personally, I think the media remembers how he felt about Rondo on draft night and is now transferring that on to Schroeder (because they have similar skill-sets).

I agree with the smokescreen idea.

Muhammad or McCollum would thrill me at 16, and both have a chance to slip down to us.

[BleedGreen1989]

If McCollum fell to 16 I would do backflips. I haven't wasted my breath on him because I feel there's a better chance of Shabazz falling

[D.o.s.]

I cd see this as a Rondo for Millsap, Burc, #14 trade.

Pierce and KG stay, they get a energy guy at the 4 in Millsap.  They showed they could play pretty well at times without Rondo.  Schroeder would be able to give them some point guard minutes. Burc and Bradley would get the rest I would assume.

KG Melo
Millsap Sullinger  Bass
Pierce  Green
Lee (Giannis #16) Terry
Schroeder  Bradley  Burc


Thats too much depth at the 2/3/4 and not enough at the 5.  Would like to see Lee/Bass traded for a 6-11 guy with a pulse.

I would hate to have a rookie starting on that squad. Especially one who has played against underwhelming competition.

Obviously you don't want to start this guy right out.

He is only 19 years old though.  And with the Euro talk... in many ways, I think Euro basketball could be better than the pros for some players, especially how bigs operate in space and how lanes open up around the rim. 

Beyond that, how great is college basketball anymore?  All the quality players are one and done.

TP and agreed. I think that a lot of people have an outdated notion of international basketball, and a bias towards the NCAA.

Which is understandable, because it's much easier for us to watch college ball, but look at Chris Copeland. He provided valuable play for a playoff team after playing in much smaller European leagues.

[Tr1boy]

Mccollum (due to injury), Len, Plumlee, Olynyk, Zeller, Muhammad are the 6 that have a chance to really drop.

I agree if Mccollum drops, you take him. Pure clutch and has a badazz swagger about him. 

[crimson_stallion]

Any trade for Millsap or Jefferson involving Pierce wouldnt make sense to me. Celtics would need Pierce's scoring still. The only reason it makes sense for Utah is if they decided it would be good to flip Pierce to someone else for something.

How would a Pierce for Jefferson trade not make sense?

In the games he started last season (regular and playoffs) Jeff Green averaged more than Pierce (> 20 PPG) and scored at a more efficient rate.

In the last 20-30 games of the season Jeff Green was clearly a more deadly offensive threat than Pierce.

Pierce struggles at SG and Jeff struggles at PF.  Both guys need to play the SF spot in order for the Celtics to make the most of their talent - that means there's really only room for one of them, and only one of those guys is young and athletic enough to still be effective in the league 5 years from now.

On the other hand we only have a single center on our roster, and that is KG.  The same KG who cannot play more than 25 MPG during the regular season, else we risk breaking him down.  In addition to our Max 25MPG center we have a mediocre 6'7" PF who is barely starter material, and a young 6'9" PF who is just coming off a major back surgery.

Yes, we need bigs..and we needs bigs you are young enough and good enough to be able to stay on the court for 30+ minutes a night.  We need rebounding, we need either inside scoring or interior defense.  Jefferson gives us the rebounding and the inside scoring.

Last season Jefferson averaged 18 PPG - exactly the same number that Pierce averaged for us last season.  Jefferson however shot at 50% from the field and grabbed 9 rebounds per night as well. 

Jeff Green also shot over 50% from the field on his 20 PPG scoring last season as a starter.

Kevin Garnett has been an efficient scorer his entire career, he also shot 50% from the field last season.

KG is 7'0", Al Jefferson is 6'10" (and strong as an ox) and Jeff Green is an athletic and long 6'9".

That would make one of the most dynamic and deadly front courts in the league.  Jefferson can dominate inside, KG can score inside or out (and make the most of his legendary jumper), and Jeff Green would apply constant pressure with his attacking off the dribble.

That front court combined with Rondo at PG would make us an instant contender, no matter who we start at SG.

[Celtics4ever]

If you could get Utah to bite and not sure PP would do it for them, I would do it.

[the_Bird]

The only reason you're drafting a PG at #16 is if you've already decided to trade Rondo.

Yeah, we're going to need someone to man the PG position until Rondo's ready, and we need a legit *point* guard to back him up (no more of these small SGs).  But...  that's the kind of role you fill in free agency, not with a near-lotto draft pick.  You aren't counting on tossing a rookie into the fire like that and being successful, anyway.

If you're drafting a point guard, it's because you've decided to move on from Rondo.  And maybe that's the best decision - maybe Rondo's got enough value, even rehabbing, to bring back a better PF/C than would be on the board at #16.

But, if Danny drafts a PG at #16...  I've got to believe a Rondo trade is inevitable.

[WMark]

I wouldn't trade RR right away until I determined that Schroeder was a keeper.

[clover]

I wouldn't trade RR right away until I determined that Schroeder was a keeper.

I'd expect a Rondo trade mmid-season, once he's shown he's back in form and yes, Schroeder has shown that he can manage the remainder of the year, though he's still a rookie.

But I don't think Danny keeps Rondo for a new max contract no matter how well Shroeder pans out.  Danny's expecting his max guys to deliver more on offense.

[CelticG1]

Any trade for Millsap or Jefferson involving Pierce wouldnt make sense to me. Celtics would need Pierce's scoring still. The only reason it makes sense for Utah is if they decided it would be good to flip Pierce to someone else for something.

How would a Pierce for Jefferson trade not make sense?

In the games he started last season (regular and playoffs) Jeff Green averaged more than Pierce (> 20 PPG) and scored at a more efficient rate.

In the last 20-30 games of the season Jeff Green was clearly a more deadly offensive threat than Pierce.

Pierce struggles at SG and Jeff struggles at PF.  Both guys need to play the SF spot in order for the Celtics to make the most of their talent - that means there's really only room for one of them, and only one of those guys is young and athletic enough to still be effective in the league 5 years from now.

On the other hand we only have a single center on our roster, and that is KG.  The same KG who cannot play more than 25 MPG during the regular season, else we risk breaking him down.  In addition to our Max 25MPG center we have a mediocre 6'7" PF who is barely starter material, and a young 6'9" PF who is just coming off a major back surgery.

Yes, we need bigs..and we needs bigs you are young enough and good enough to be able to stay on the court for 30+ minutes a night.  We need rebounding, we need either inside scoring or interior defense.  Jefferson gives us the rebounding and the inside scoring.

Last season Jefferson averaged 18 PPG - exactly the same number that Pierce averaged for us last season.  Jefferson however shot at 50% from the field and grabbed 9 rebounds per night as well. 

Jeff Green also shot over 50% from the field on his 20 PPG scoring last season as a starter.

Kevin Garnett has been an efficient scorer his entire career, he also shot 50% from the field last season.

KG is 7'0", Al Jefferson is 6'10" (and strong as an ox) and Jeff Green is an athletic and long 6'9".

That would make one of the most dynamic and deadly front courts in the league.  Jefferson can dominate inside, KG can score inside or out (and make the most of his legendary jumper), and Jeff Green would apply constant pressure with his attacking off the dribble.

That front court combined with Rondo at PG would make us an instant contender, no matter who we start at SG.

I wouldn't base either of those guys on the last 20 games of the season.

Just look at AB from last year to this year. Major step backward

Pierce is about as reliable scorer as there is. Even as he ages he's still one of the best scorers in the league. This while pretty much running the Cs offense for the latter part of the year.

Still can't get over Pierce being overlooked even by Celtics fans.

People drooling over Paul George and Pierce pretty much blows him out of the water in every stastical category per 36 min

[Eja117]

He just worked out for Utah so apparently the promise theory is out the window I guess

[e4sym0de]

Cant see the Celtics Draft him. He said that he sees Utah and the Bucks as best fits and their need for a point guard is without a question. While i think he has a very high upside (very athletic) he just played 1 year in the german league (which is really not that good) and his performance their wasn´t outstanding at all.

(A former teammate of me (PF) played against him 1,5 years ago and got blocked by him btw )

[csfansince60s]

I find it really hard to believe that Danny would allow this to get out four weeks before the draft.  This HAS to be a smokescreen.  Additionally, I believe Danny uses the same guys every year to leak false info.  While he may like Schroeder, I don't think that's his primary target.  Personally, I think the media remembers how he felt about Rondo on draft night and is now transferring that on to Schroeder (because they have similar skill-sets).

I agree with the smokescreen idea.

Muhammad or McCollum would thrill me at 16, and both have a chance to slip down to us.

I changed my mind about McCollum. Would love to have him, but NO WAY will he slip to us. A bunch of mocks have him in the top 10 now.

Also, if we are using our "interest" in Schroeder as a smokescreen/decoy to hope someone else takes him, that strategy may have been handed a serious blow by this:

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228099/Sources-Dennis-Schroeder-Has-Struggled-In-Workouts

Sounds like he hasn't done well in the workouts:

"Dennis Schroeder has returned to Germany after working out for the Dallas Mavericks, Milwaukee Bucks, Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz and Houston Rockets.

Sources say Schroeder's workouts haven't gone very well, with him struggling against more physical defense.

"He looked frustrated," one NBA scout said of Schroeder's workout with his team. "His body language wasn't great. He's a very good talent and I wouldn't read too much into the workout, but it didn't really help him."

Let's hope not.

[Tr1boy]

I hope Danny drafts Schroeder with the 16th or does something so we can get him.

Then ship Rondo out.

With Schroeder it will be like Rondo never left.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

God I hope not.

We have Rondo already, draft someone else. There are still nes around 16 that has tremendous upside, no need to get a PG who wont get the minutes and not develop because we have a star caliber one already. Waste of a pick.