Bring in Gordon, Smith and Big Al

[connor]

Trade Pierce and Bradley to New Orleans for Eric Gordon

Trade KG to Clippers for Deandre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe

Trade Deandre Jordan, Fab Melo, Jordan Crawford and all our unguaranteed contracts to the Hawks for Josh Smith

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.


Big Al
Smith/Sully
Green/Smith
Gordon/Lee/Terry
Rondo/T-Will

#14 (Olnyk or Plumlee if he falls?)

The Pierce and Bradley to New Orleans is the new rumor with it being suggested that New Orleans waives Pierce who can then sign with a contender. Assuming you can arrange it so that Pierce goes to NO who then release him and then he signs with LAC and KG is traded there, its basically trading Pierce and KG for Jordan and Bledsoe so I think LAC says yes. NO gets rid of Gordon's contract and gets a nice young player in Bradley so they say yes.

Atlanta is the one I'm not sure of. Brining in Jordan allows them to move Horford to PF where he is better suited and then they get a few unguaranteed contracts and some projects in Melo and Crawford. Is it enough to get Smith? Would they even want to pay Jordan 10m a year? I don't know, but its certainly a possibility if they miss out on the other big names in free agency and Smith was going to walk for nothing.

Lastly Utah seriously needs a PG and Big Al is on his way out anyway to make room for Kanter and Favors so the trade works plus they would be wiling to move back two spots to 16.

Atlanta might want a first to get the deal done and I'm not sure if I'd be willing to include that unless Smith is coming in at a team friendly cap number.

I'm also not exactly crazy on Big Al's defenseless game  and I think Bledsoe could potentially bring in a guy like Cousins (in a larger package) or Gortat who might fit better with that lineup so you could change that. Or if for some reason McLemore goes #1 I think Bledsoe and the #16 could be enough to get Orlando to move the #2 since Nelson is a train wreck and the have Vucevic so we could get Noel.

[Rondo2287]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

[rondohondo]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

yea need to match salaries in a trade

[celtic -_- pride]

first i dont think these trades are plausible and for a defensive minded team i dont think this team will excel. not enough floor spacing for the big men to work in the post. Al jefferson is a great scorer but teams would throw the double at him with our lack of perimeter shooting

[BleedGreen1989]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

Yeah, Utah tells you to get lost

[LarBrd33]

I agree with this pipe dream... it would definitely be nice if we could just flip our trash for elite stars. 

[Chris]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

Yeah, Utah tells you to get lost

It can't happen because Big Al is a free agent, but I think Utah would love that deal.  They will likely let Big Al walk, and Bledsoe fills a need for them, and is a very good prospect.

[connor]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

yea need to match salaries in a trade

Sorry I totally forgot to include Butler. C's would send one of Terry, Bass or Lee to LAC for Butler in the KG trade. Then C's send Butler, Bledsoe and #16 for Big Al (assuming he isn't coming in at 15m a year) and #14. Butler is expiring and helps at their other position of need SF.

I agree with this pipe dream... it would definitely be nice if we could just flip our trash for elite stars. 

Hey I like to dream big. And every single one of those trades have been mentioned in some form or another in the last year. Bledsoe and filler for Millsap or Big Al was a trade deadline rumor. Gordon for Pierce and Bradley is the new rumor. And then there is the old KG and PP for Jordan and Bledsoe rumor. The only one that wasn't is the Atlanta trade and i acknowledged I wasn't sure if they'd take it.

And also I don't consider Pierce, KG and Bradley our "trash".

first i dont think these trades are plausible and for a defensive minded team i dont think this team will excel. not enough floor spacing for the big men to work in the post. Al jefferson is a great scorer but teams would throw the double at him with our lack of perimeter shooting

Again plausible or not they've all been mentioned as trade possibilities at some point. And this would be a total overhaul of our roster and we wouldn't be the same defensive minded team. We would be a high scoring offense with Gordon and Green providing the spacing and hopefully Josh Smith's great D making up for Al's deficiencies.

Like I said at the end I don't think Big Al is the perfect fit, but I think Utah would love Bledsoe. I mentioned some other options with Gortat being the most realistic and then Cousins or Noel being pipe dreams, but if the Big Al deal is the only part you have a problem with then feel free to make an alternative suggestion.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

First of all Al Jefferon is a Free Agent, so I don't think this trade works.

But even if he isnt...

[connor]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

First of all Al Jefferon is a Free Agent, so I don't think this trade works.

But even if he isnt...

It'd be a sign and trade.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

First of all Al Jefferon is a Free Agent, so I don't think this trade works.

But even if he isnt...

It'd be a sign and trade.

First of all before I address this I just want to acknowledge a few things. The PP trade to NO could be plausible. So as the KG trade. The Josh Smith deal, not sure, even as a SnT, I think ATL is trying too get rid of salaries and DeAndre Jordan is a big fat one, but it could be plausible as well.

But then there's the main problem

Al Jeffereson is a near All Star talent, deficiencies and all. A double-double guy who can be a first option on offense on most teams. There would be teams that may pay him the max, if not near max contract.

You're talking about trading for this guy AND Utah's draft pick for a backup PG and a draft pick that is two spots after theirs.

I mean no disrespect but, are you seeing the problem here? 

[connor]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

First of all Al Jefferon is a Free Agent, so I don't think this trade works.

But even if he isnt...

It'd be a sign and trade.

First of all before I address this I just want to acknowledge a few things. The PP trade to NO could be plausible. So as the KG trade. The Josh Smith deal, not sure, even as a SnT, I think ATL is trying too get rid of salaries and DeAndre Jordan is a big fat one, but it could be plausible as well.

But then there's the main problem

Al Jeffereson is a near All Star talent, deficiencies and all. A double-double guy who can be a first option on offense on most teams. There would be teams that may pay him the max, if not near max contract.

You're talking about trading for this guy AND Utah's draft pick for a backup PG and a draft pick that is two spots after theirs.

I mean no disrespect but, are you seeing the problem here?

I see what you are saying, but Utah might not be bringing back Big Al anyway with Kanter and Favors waiting in the wings and Big Al commanding so much money. They have a desperate need at PG and made a push for Bledsoe at the trade deadline offering up Millsap (which LAC turned down).

So in my scenario I'm assuming that Utah isn't resigning Big Al and are moving forward with Kanter so now they could try to get him to do a sign and trade (and teams have far less leverage with sign and trades due to the new rules) and bring in Bledsoe who a lot of people think is a starting PG talent in the NBA and they can try him out for a year before having to sign him to a major contract.

Now if a team like Atlanta wants to pay Big Al huge money well then this is all for naught anyway, but I can't predict who is going to be willing to pay him what. I can tell you that Utah would take Bledsoe in a heartbeat if they are losing Big Al anyway and they'd be plenty happy to move back 2 spots in a weak draft.

And as I said to Celticpride, if you think the other ones are plausible (and I acknowledge the  Atlanta trade is suspect, but possible if they come up empty handed in free agency) then by all mean make a substitution for the Big Al trade.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Trade Eric Bledsoe and the #16 pick to Utah for Big Al Jefferson and the #14 pick.

First of all Al Jefferon is a Free Agent, so I don't think this trade works.

But even if he isnt...

It'd be a sign and trade.

First of all before I address this I just want to acknowledge a few things. The PP trade to NO could be plausible. So as the KG trade. The Josh Smith deal, not sure, even as a SnT, I think ATL is trying too get rid of salaries and DeAndre Jordan is a big fat one, but it could be plausible as well.

But then there's the main problem

Al Jeffereson is a near All Star talent, deficiencies and all. A double-double guy who can be a first option on offense on most teams. There would be teams that may pay him the max, if not near max contract.

You're talking about trading for this guy AND Utah's draft pick for a backup PG and a draft pick that is two spots after theirs.

I mean no disrespect but, are you seeing the problem here?

I see what you are saying, but Utah might not be bringing back Big Al anyway with Kanter and Favors waiting in the wings and Big Al commanding so much money. They have a desperate need at PG and made a push for Bledsoe at the trade deadline offering up Millsap (which LAC turned down).

So in my scenario I'm assuming that Utah isn't resigning Big Al and are moving forward with Kanter so now they could try to get him to do a sign and trade (and teams have far less leverage with sign and trades due to the new rules) and bring in Bledsoe who a lot of people think is a starting PG talent in the NBA and they can try him out for a year before having to sign him to a major contract.

Now if a team like Atlanta wants to pay Big Al huge money well then this is all for naught anyway, but I can't predict who is going to be willing to pay him what. I can tell you that Utah would take Bledsoe in a heartbeat if they are losing Big Al anyway and they'd be plenty happy to move back 2 spots in a weak draft.

And as I said to Celticpride, if you think the other ones are plausible (and I acknowledge the  Atlanta trade is suspect, but possible if they come up empty handed in free agency) then by all mean make a substitution for the Big Al trade.

I wont be able to, Big Al is FA. And even for a sign and trade, they can get better offers from other teams than Bledsoe and a pick downgrade.

And while I did say the trades are possible, I won't do it. Pierce has more value for us than Eric "Knees" Gordon and I would certainly not overpay for Josh Smith.

To each his own I guess, but Josh Smith is not worth max money to me, and I won't certainly risk being tied up to Eric Gordon's contract when he doesnt seem to get healthy.

ANd about Al, even if we can get him, I woulnd't because of Jared Sullinger. I think they have the same style of play, but Sully will cost WAY less.

[Boris Badenov]

As always, I think it's useful to remember that answers to the question "Would team X accept this deal if it were the only one available?" can be very different from answers to "Is this deal likely to beat the best offers team X gets from every other team in the NBA?"

I mean, if you put me and Sofia Vergara on a desert island for a year, she might eventually think I don't look so bad, but I'm not extrapolating from that to think that I have a shot with her in the real world.

[CoachBo]

I agree with this pipe dream... it would definitely be nice if we could just flip our trash for elite stars.

Agreed.

But for the life of me, I cannot find an elite star in this thread.

All I see is a vastly overrated ex-Celtic who can't guard me, a guard with bad wheels and a frontcourt guy with no perimeter game.

There isn't a trade in this discussion that, if made, I wouldn't demand Ainge's immediate resignation.