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What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« on: May 23, 2013, 05:56:23 PM »

Offline ghost_of_davidthirdkill

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I know there are plenty on this blog that do not want to even consider the possibility of Demarcus Cousins in Celtics’ green.  I understand there is a valid discussion to be had on what, if anything positive Cousins would bring to the Celtics.  However, this post is not about that.  I am not asking IF we should trade for him, rather WHAT it would take to trade for him.

I’ll throw out a few possible suggestions to get the ball rolling.  Now with that being said, they are simply frameworks for possible moves.  They could very much use tinkering and suggestions from all of you.


Option 1:   Trading young assets (i.e. Bradley, Sullinger, Melo, couple of 1st round picks)

This is most likely not enough (Bradley’s poor year, Sully coming off of back surgery, & Melo…well…just being Melo), but if the Kings are truly tired of Cousins’ act, maybe it could get the job done.


Option 2:   Trading Jeff Green & a 1st rounder or two

Unlike the other young assets, Green’s value actually went up this year (playoffs specifically).  Additionally, the Kings are pretty weak at small forward.  Again, it all depends how fed up the Kings are with Cousins.


Option 3:   Bleacher Report Bos-LAC trade expanded to include Sacramento.

In the BR trade, the C’s send Pierce, Melo, & pick #16 this year to the Clippers for Bledsoe, Jordan, Butler, & the 25th pick this year.  I would in turn trade Jordan, Bledsoe, a couple of picks or a pick and Bradley to Sacramento for Cousins and Salmons.


Option 4:   Trade Rondo for Cousins and Tyreke Evans (S & T)   

This is my least preferred option.  I think that Cousins would work best with Rondo at the point.  Also, Rondo is a big time playoff performer who the C’s desperately missed this year.  Additionally, I’m not sure if Evans is truly suited to be a point guard.  But who knows?  Maybe with KG and Doc’s guidance, these two extremely talented young players can truly blossom in Boston.  Still, it would be tough to lose Rondo.



Anyway, those are just some suggestions.  The key I believe is keeping KG in order to mentor Cousins.  That is why I didn’t include him in any trade proposal.  Nevertheless, please have fun tinkering, coming up with some different options or completely eviscerating anything suggested above.  Enjoy.

Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 06:40:00 PM »

Offline BleedGreen1989

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I've been drinking the Cousins Kool-Aid for awhile but I just don't see it happening. Jeff Green would be our best bet but I'm guessing SAC just rides it out with him and hopes for the best
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 07:22:14 PM »

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I think it would take some sort of incident, like DMC punching a coach, that makes Sacramento decide it wants nothing more to do with him.

I think they would insist that any package include a young center on a rookie-scale contract who can start immediately or a draft pick good enough to take such a center.

I think they would ask for something close to what Houston gave up for James Harden (Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb who had just been drafted 12th overall, two future firsts, and a future second).
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 07:39:58 PM »

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I think it would take some sort of incident, like DMC punching a coach, that makes Sacramento decide it wants nothing more to do with him.

I think they would insist that any package include a young center on a rookie-scale contract who can start immediately or a draft pick good enough to take such a center.

I think they would ask for something close to what Houston gave up for James Harden (Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb who had just been drafted 12th overall, two future firsts, and a future second).


Am I the only one who thinks Green will be more valuable than Cousins? Green can defend both Melo and LeBron, those guys wont be going anywhere anytime soon and both are the best players on their teams and one is the best period! Green can give you 20pts in the playoffs and with time I believe he will be scoring 20+ consistently. KG at least seems to agree with me (whether a head boosting lie or not), he thinks Green will be one of the greatest... now, I don't believe he can but if he can come close/all-star then that means he is better than Cousins or will be. I think Cousins is a very good player but I'll take the good player in Green and the good attitude!

I'd rather give up future firsts and w/e for Cousins (I do want him) just not Green.

Confidence is a hell of a drug and Green was just getting going, now he will have more time after his surgery and become healthier and healthier! KG, PP, and even RR seem to be pros at boosting people up and helping make them push themselves to be better, through talk or example. Sure they could do the same for Cousins but I like Green so, there! LOL
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 01:30:53 PM »

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I don't think the new cerebral heads in Sacramento will want to part with a prospective franchise player. Being a big, this becomes even more unlikely.


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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 01:37:17 PM »

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My guess is maybe a package of

Bos sends: Green, Sully, Bradley and 2014 first rd pick
Sac sends: Slamons and Cousins

That may not even be enough

sooo

Bos sends: Rondo , Sully,melo and 2014 first rd pick
Sac sends: Evans (s+t) and cousins

PG: Evans    / Terry
SG: Bradley  / Lee
SF: Green    / Glen Rice JR?
PF: Cousins  / Bass
 C: KG       / Vet min

I wouldn't mind a team like that , very well balanced .

Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 02:07:30 PM »

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From talking to SacTown fans they seem content with riding it out with Cousins and hoping for the best. He's really their only hope of making it out of the NBA basement
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 02:51:16 PM »

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Who knows, it could be any thing from Rondo to a bag of Doritos, depending on the week.

Im hoping for a Doritos week, like to keep Rondo!

Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 03:10:27 PM »

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From talking to SacTown fans they seem content with riding it out with Cousins and hoping for the best. He's really their only hope of making it out of the NBA basement
I think you are right about most Kings fans, but I've heard a few recently say they'd rather tank and take a chance at get Wiggins or Parker which would be exactly what you need to get out of the basement and fast.

Everyone sees potential in Cousins, but its a question of whether he is ever going to be able to put it all together as a centerpiece. I'd be far more confident if he had a better development system around him than what Sacramento is providing. They can't seem to control him, have no vets to mentor him and he hasn't tried to change at all as a result it seems.

I wouldn't be surprised if after one more incident they were happy to move him for future picks and young talent so they can tank and take their chances in the draft rather than suffer through DMC's issues anymore.

Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 03:19:19 PM »

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I think if we dealt KG for Bledsoe and Jordan, we could get him for a package centered around Bledsoe, Bradley and a pick, but maybe I'm being overly optimistic. Would hate to give up Bradley, but bigs are almost always more valuable than smalls.
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 03:31:13 PM »

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A top 5 draft pick and long term salary relief (e.g. taking on Chuck Hayes).
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 03:40:04 PM »

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I think if we dealt KG for Bledsoe and Jordan, we could get him for a package centered around Bledsoe, Bradley and a pick, but maybe I'm being overly optimistic. Would hate to give up Bradley, but bigs are almost always more valuable than smalls.

I was thinking along the same lines but I think the Kings would really want some center in return or a pick that could be used on a guy who could become a quality center. Maybe if Kelly Olnyk falls to us at 16 we could trade his rights Bledsoe and Bradley for Cousins (would probably have to take back a bad salary or include a bit more like Melo, Crawford or some unguaranteed contracts to get them to bite).

Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 04:43:32 PM »

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I think if we dealt KG for Bledsoe and Jordan, we could get him for a package centered around Bledsoe, Bradley and a pick, but maybe I'm being overly optimistic. Would hate to give up Bradley, but bigs are almost always more valuable than smalls.

I was thinking along the same lines but I think the Kings would really want some center in return or a pick that could be used on a guy who could become a quality center. Maybe if Kelly Olnyk falls to us at 16 we could trade his rights Bledsoe and Bradley for Cousins (would probably have to take back a bad salary or include a bit more like Melo, Crawford or some unguaranteed contracts to get them to bite).
This is why I think a three way trade with LAC in which Bledsoe, Jordan, Bradley and picks (2014 & 2016 1st rounders) go to Sacramento could possibly work.  The Kings would be getting a starting PG in Bledsoe, a defensive stopper off the bench in Bradley and an athletic center in Jordan who while being limited right now offensively could hopefully provide them with a comparable skill set to a Tyson Chandler in the future.  Well that and a couple of 1st round picks to boot.

Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2013, 04:47:24 PM »

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I think that with our assets we'd be much more likely to get Tyreke Evans than DMC.

And, frankly, I'd rather have Tyreke.
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Re: What would it take to get Demarcus Cousins?
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2013, 04:50:02 PM »

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I think it would take some sort of incident, like DMC punching a coach, that makes Sacramento decide it wants nothing more to do with him.

I think they would insist that any package include a young center on a rookie-scale contract who can start immediately or a draft pick good enough to take such a center.

I think they would ask for something close to what Houston gave up for James Harden (Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb who had just been drafted 12th overall, two future firsts, and a future second).

I don't think it has to be an incidentike that I think it just needs to be more of the same crap cousins gets into. Fighting with coaches, teammates, broadcasters refs etc. If he doesn't change and unless he's playing like an mvp or something they'll maybe look elsewhere.

That package for harden is similar to what the Cs could give.

Green is better and higher ceiling than Martin

16th pick instead of 12th.

Then whatever other picks wed need tonget it done.