Chris Andersen

[LGC88]

i'm pretty sure chris wilcox will also have the same output or better if he's playin with the 3 miami stars. move on...

Agree

[NocturnalRebel]

We'll be alright without him.

[moiso]

In hindsight, the Celtics weren't going to be good enough regardless of who they picked up.  But at the time, if Ainge cared enough to add guys like Randolph, Andersen would have been a much better adddition.  He clearly contributes in areas that Miami is lacking in, and the Celtics were lacking in the same areas.  So I would definitely say Ainge messed up by not signing him, but we weren't going very far in the playoffs either way.

If the entire team was healthy, not signing Andersen could have been the difference between championship or no championship.

[Monkhouse]

Chris Anderson might've not made a difference... But at least he would've definitely given us the grittiness and toughness only certain kind of players can. Kenyon Martin, Kendrick Perkins, etc.

I was a little  we didn't get both. Kenyon Martin was ready and willing, then we opted out? I don't know Danny was thinking cause Kenyon was definitely worth the contract. He's still good enough to play another 1-2 years.

[sed522002]

He fits well with the Heat. He plugged in a hole that was missing with his energy and toughness. Last night, almost 99% of his baskets was assisted by Lebron. I don't know how he would have been on Celtics post-Rondo injury.

[pearljammer10]

I would have loved to see Birdman in green but he made the right move going to a contender. With a full healthy squad he would have made a huge difference. With the team as is, we still probably would have exited when we did.

[Snakehead]

i'm pretty sure chris wilcox will also have the same output or better if he's playin with the 3 miami stars. move on...

Agree

No way.  Ridiculous statement.

Andersen is and has been productive.  This is not an anomaly.  He is a solid rebounder and garbage scorer and he's a good athlete and rim protector.  He's active and he runs the floor.  This is the same guy that was in Denver.

Look at his previous stats and show me what you're basing this off.

Andersen would have been more productive and a better defender with us than Wilcox is/was, and flip the players on the teams and it's the same story.

[sed522002]

i'm pretty sure chris wilcox will also have the same output or better if he's playin with the 3 miami stars. move on...

Agree

No way.  Ridiculous statement.

Andersen is and has been productive.  This is not an anomaly.  He is a solid rebounder and garbage scorer and he's a good athlete and rim protector.  He's active and he runs the floor.  This is the same guy that was in Denver.

Look at his previous stats and show me what you're basing this off.

Andersen would have been more productive and a better defender with us than Wilcox is/was, and flip the players on the teams and it's the same story.

I think what happens on this blog a lot of times is that we're good at over-hyping players that we acquire and totally dismissing players that don't come here. Since we didn't get Birdman or Kenyon they're now scrubs and garbage players that can't contribute, but if they were in green they'd be considered game changers and key role guys (which they were doing for their team).

You can't just look at a stat and say "oh we could have easily gotten Xpts and Xrb from our bigs" without looking at the intangibles of what they bring to their team and the defense they provide.

[Snakehead]

i'm pretty sure chris wilcox will also have the same output or better if he's playin with the 3 miami stars. move on...

Agree

No way.  Ridiculous statement.

Andersen is and has been productive.  This is not an anomaly.  He is a solid rebounder and garbage scorer and he's a good athlete and rim protector.  He's active and he runs the floor.  This is the same guy that was in Denver.

Look at his previous stats and show me what you're basing this off.

Andersen would have been more productive and a better defender with us than Wilcox is/was, and flip the players on the teams and it's the same story.

I think what happens on this blog a lot of times is that we're good at over-hyping players that we acquire and totally dismissing players that don't come here. Since we didn't get Birdman or Kenyon they're now scrubs and garbage players that can't contribute, but if they were in green they'd be considered game changers and key role guys (which they were doing for their team).

You can't just look at a stat and say "oh we could have easily gotten Xpts and Xrb from our bigs" without looking at the intangibles of what they bring to their team and the defense they provide.

Agreed.

Just on defense alone, Andersen is much better.  And I don't doubt Wilcox' effort, he just isn't as productive.

Andersen's averages have been around 5 pts, 5 reb, 1.5 blocks in 15 mins per game shooting a high percentage.  He's a quality, active backup big for most teams, it happens though that his skillset fits in with Miami in a way that he can play big important minutes for them.

[sed522002]

i'm pretty sure chris wilcox will also have the same output or better if he's playin with the 3 miami stars. move on...

Agree

No way.  Ridiculous statement.

Andersen is and has been productive.  This is not an anomaly.  He is a solid rebounder and garbage scorer and he's a good athlete and rim protector.  He's active and he runs the floor.  This is the same guy that was in Denver.

Look at his previous stats and show me what you're basing this off.

Andersen would have been more productive and a better defender with us than Wilcox is/was, and flip the players on the teams and it's the same story.

I think what happens on this blog a lot of times is that we're good at over-hyping players that we acquire and totally dismissing players that don't come here. Since we didn't get Birdman or Kenyon they're now scrubs and garbage players that can't contribute, but if they were in green they'd be considered game changers and key role guys (which they were doing for their team).

You can't just look at a stat and say "oh we could have easily gotten Xpts and Xrb from our bigs" without looking at the intangibles of what they bring to their team and the defense they provide.

Agreed.

Just on defense alone, Andersen is much better.  And I don't doubt Wilcox' effort, he just isn't as productive.

Andersen's averages have been around 5 pts, 5 reb, 1.5 blocks in 15 mins per game shooting a high percentage.  He's a quality, active backup big for most teams, it happens though that his skillset fits in with Miami in a way that he can play big important minutes for them.

Yep, that's what set them apart from Wilcox. He was so deep in Doc's doghouse because defensively he was out of sync.

Yeah, Birdman definitely fits with Miami and their needs. He made a good choice.

[The Rondo Show]

Some of y'all are completely in denial. Nobody is arguing that Andersen is the force behind the Heat. Obviously he benefits from the Heat situation. He has always been a solid big man who does the dirty work well. That type of player is our biggest need and we had an opportunity to get him for nothing and we passed. It's not about hindsight or what could have been this year, it's about building a more competitive team. Anyone who thinks Chris Wilcox matches Birdman's intangibles like toughness, rebounding, and defense is out of touch with reality.

[LEHGOCELTICS]

Either way...



Hindsight is always 20/20.

Except we were calling for Birdman, Blatche, and Martin to join us before they signed with any teams. Oh well, Doc would have probably let them rot on the bench anyways.