Dennis Schroeder the next Rajon Rondo?

[bobbyv]

I definitely see Rondo's game in him, plus the three pointers.

[Yogi]

I've been high on Schroder when most mocks still had him in the bottom of the first round if at all.  I think he has all-star potential.  However, PLEASE for the love of sanity do not imply that he is anywhere near Rondo's level.  Rondo averages in the NBA playoffs, against the likes of Rose, Howard, Lebron and Kobe better numbers than Dennis averages against second division German teams.  He has a lot to prove before being mentioned in the same breath as Rajon Rondo. 

[BleedGreen1989]

I've been high on Schroder when most mocks still had him in the bottom of the first round if at all.  I think he has all-star potential.  However, PLEASE for the love of sanity do not imply that he is anywhere near Rondo's level.  Rondo averages in the NBA playoffs, against the likes of Rose, Howard, Lebron and Kobe better numbers than Dennis averages against second division German teams.  He has a lot to prove before being mentioned in the same breath as Rajon Rondo.

Nobody thinks he's going to walk in and drop triple doubles or lead the league is assists, but his physical attributes and style of play certainly reminds people of Rajon.

[albas89]

I've been high on Schroder when most mocks still had him in the bottom of the first round if at all.  I think he has all-star potential.  However, PLEASE for the love of sanity do not imply that he is anywhere near Rondo's level.  Rondo averages in the NBA playoffs, against the likes of Rose, Howard, Lebron and Kobe better numbers than Dennis averages against second division German teams.  He has a lot to prove before being mentioned in the same breath as Rajon Rondo.

Nobody thinks he's going to walk in and drop triple doubles or lead the league is assists, but his physical attributes and style of play certainly reminds people of Rajon.

Yeah, I think we all can agree that his ceiling is Rondo with less rebounding and a better jump shot, but he has a long long way to get there. Chances are he never gets there, but at least he has the potential...

[drax]

Please lower the expectations on Schröder, he's good, actually really good for a euro prospect at the age of 19. But the NBA these days is point guard driven and in Germany there are only a few athletic point guards.

With hard work in many areas he can become a solid starter but to become an all-star-level point guard, he needs to explode.

PS: As a german Celtics fan i'd love to see him learning from Rajon Rondo!

[BleedGreen1989]

Please lower the expectations on Schröder, he's good, actually really good for a euro prospect at the age of 19. But the NBA these days is point guard driven and in Germany there are only a few athletic point guards.

With hard work in many areas he can become a solid starter but to become an all-star-level point guard, he needs to explode.

PS: As a german Celtics fan i'd love to see him learning from Rajon Rondo!

I think I have reasonable expectations. I didn't mean to come off by assuming he was going to be a star. I think he has a lot of that famous word "upside". But in general, I just like him as a prospect in this draft

[Celtics4ever]

Does he play the piano?

[D.o.s.]

I can get on this bandwagon.

[BleedGreen1989]

I can get on this bandwagon.

Exxxcelent  (mischievous laugh under breath)

[Sketch5]

If we had a second pick in the first I'd go after this guy. He has the tools and could be a good back up to Rondo while learning under him.

He has all the upsides of Rondo, plus better out side shooting. Needs to work on his in between game ad finishing at the hoop under pressure, but I think thats more an experience/age thing, I mean he's 19.

If the rumors of PP getting traded are true, if they could get him to Dallas or OKC for a player and their pick if would be some thing to consider.

I'd hate to loose PP, but we are going to loose him with in the next two years, and if we could rebuild with out sucking for years and get a good pack up PG who could eventually be a starter in two years, you'd have to really think it over. I mean if you could get Rondo with out side shooting and  with out the blow up in your face attitude would be worth trading PP for in the long hall.

[Yogi]

No he doesn't have the same upside as Rondo. 
1) Rondo is more athletic.
2) Rondo is much more intelligent.

Shroder is certainly not a better shooter than Rondo for now.  He is maybe a better 3 point shooter depending on how he does with the NBA , but he is awful from the mid range.  Rondo shoots one of the best percentages in the NBA from the mid range.  It is possible for Schroder to become a better shooter than Rondo, but we will see. 

Schroder has Tony Parker IQ in a smaller, less athletic Rondo's body.  If he maximizes his physical and mental potential he wouldn't be as good as Rondo.  He can still be very good though. 

[D.o.s.]

For the interested:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Rajon-Rondo-NBA-Draft-Scouting-Report-2798/

whoops, forgot the other link.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nike-Hoop-Summit-Scouting-Reports-Guards-4152/

Obviously it's important to keep in mind that there are only so many modifiers and adjectives that are useful in describing basketball-related abilities and skills, and no two players are really all that alike anyway.

Still on the Wagon. Would love to see him in green.

[BleedGreen1989]

No he doesn't have the same upside as Rondo. 
1) Rondo is more athletic.
2) Rondo is much more intelligent.

Shroder is certainly not a better shooter than Rondo for now.  He is maybe a better 3 point shooter depending on how he does with the NBA , but he is awful from the mid range.  Rondo shoots one of the best percentages in the NBA from the mid range.  It is possible for Schroder to become a better shooter than Rondo, but we will see. 

Schroder has Tony Parker IQ in a smaller, less athletic Rondo's body.  If he maximizes his physical and mental potential he wouldn't be as good as Rondo.  He can still be very good though.

That's a pretty heavy statement. I'm not saying he will ever be even close to Rondo. He may even flame out of the league some day but it's pretty bold to say he has no chance of being on Rondo's level

[BleedGreen1989]

Chad Ford's latest mock draft has us taking Schroeder at #16 

Here's what Chad's got to say...

With Rajon Rondo's future up in the air, could the Celtics take the guy who many scouts compare to a young Rondo? Both are quick, long and have huge hands. Both play a frantic style of basketball and both have swagger. The rumors flying around Chicago were that Schroeder had a promise from a team. The Celtics seem like just the sort of team that would try to lock him down.

[Yogi]

No he doesn't have the same upside as Rondo. 
1) Rondo is more athletic.
2) Rondo is much more intelligent.

Shroder is certainly not a better shooter than Rondo for now.  He is maybe a better 3 point shooter depending on how he does with the NBA , but he is awful from the mid range.  Rondo shoots one of the best percentages in the NBA from the mid range.  It is possible for Schroder to become a better shooter than Rondo, but we will see. 

Schroder has Tony Parker IQ in a smaller, less athletic Rondo's body.  If he maximizes his physical and mental potential he wouldn't be as good as Rondo.  He can still be very good though.

That's a pretty heavy statement. I'm not saying he will ever be even close to Rondo. He may even flame out of the league some day but it's pretty bold to say he has no chance of being on Rondo's level

Not really.  There are three things that determine upside. 

1. Physical tools.  Rondo is stronger, more athletic, and longer than Schroder with the same speed therefore he has more upside physically.  Derrick Rose, Russel Westbrook and John Wall (and Lebron) are three top point guards with greater physical upside than Rondo. 
2. Mental Tools.  Rondo has a far greater IQ than Dennis.  Rondo is a thinker while Dennis is much more of a player (similar to Tony Parker).  This means Rondo has a greater mental upside as well.
3. Emotional Tools.  Drive.  Heart.  Work Ethic.  Spirit.  There are many names but it all amounts to the same thing.  Does he have the motivation and character to bring out the best in him.  Dennis is a very competitive and confident kid, but Rondo is not going to lose to anyone on those factors. 

It is certainly possible that Dennis can become a better player than Rondo, but that's because Rondo has not maximized his physical and mental tools.  Very few players even come close to that with the usual suspects like KG, Duncan, Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, Magic, Bird etc. coming the closest.

Blake Griffin for example has a phenomenal upside physically and mentally, but falls short in his drive. 
Derrick Rose and Russel Westbrook has fantastic athleticism and drive but falls short of a guy like Lebron when it comes to IQ.
Kevin Durant is not lacking in anything but falls slightly short of Lebron both physically (strength) and IQ (play making)
If Rondo was 6'8 280 pounds he would be as dominant as Lebron, if not more. Unfortunately that is an extremely rare combination of size, strength, speed, IQ and drive.  This is why Wiggins has so much hype.  He has that kind of physical, mental and emotional upside.