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Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2013, 02:10:41 AM »

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Would you trade Sullinger and the 2014 first (with no more than top ten protection) to move up to draft Noel?  If yes, how much more would you be willing to add?

That's about it lol Noel weighed in at 206 lbs!

There are PG's who weigh more than he does. He will get absolutely destroyed in the paint until he bulks up

wikipedia says 206.

espn says 228.
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Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2013, 02:21:01 AM »

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Would you trade Sullinger and the 2014 first (with no more than top ten protection) to move up to draft Noel?  If yes, how much more would you be willing to add?

That's about it lol Noel weighed in at 206 lbs!

There are PG's who weigh more than he does. He will get absolutely destroyed in the paint until he bulks up

wikipedia says 206.

espn says 228.

Wikipedia is right, Noel weighed 206 at the draft combine.

Replace every time you say Noel with Larry Sanders. Of course you move Sullinger and the 16th for him. You move Pierce, Bradley, Garnett, and Green too. If its a one-off Rondo for the first, you do that as well.

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Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2013, 04:26:35 AM »

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With the CBA rules, draft picks have more value now. You get young talents capable to contribute in the team and most importantly you stay away from repeating luxury taxes. Sully is the most valuable player salary cap wise. Obviously you can't afford to trade this kind of player.

DA has to prepare for the future next 5 years with no PP, KG, Doc and Rondo at the end of his career. Nobody will come to Boston through FA so you have to find a way through trading and draft. The only choice is to develop players. If think what will be good to do is to develop our 3 china men till February, hopefully they will be good chips for trading.

Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2013, 07:30:00 AM »

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Noel is from NE and wants to play for the C's I read.  He is a Celtic fan.

Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2013, 12:43:23 PM »

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Noel is from NE and wants to play for the C's I read.  He is a Celtic fan.

Would certainly be nice but unless Noel unexpectedly slide.  Don't see how we can get him.

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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2013, 12:52:46 PM »

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Would you trade Sullinger and the 2014 first (with no more than top ten protection) to move up to draft Noel?  If yes, how much more would you be willing to add?

That's about it lol Noel weighed in at 206 lbs!

There are PG's who weigh more than he does. He will get absolutely destroyed in the paint until he bulks up

wikipedia says 206.

espn says 228.

Wikipedia is right, Noel weighed 206 at the draft combine.

Replace every time you say Noel with Larry Sanders. Of course you move Sullinger and the 16th for him. You move Pierce, Bradley, Garnett, and Green too. If its a one-off Rondo for the first, you do that as well.

TP IP. This is what got me and should get everyone else. Sanders is one of the most valuable pieces in basketball right now: a young, fantastic big man defender on a cheap contract. If you can get that for some mix of our players, you do it. And then you build around him.

Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2013, 01:42:56 PM »

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I'm not convinced in any fashion Noel will assuredly be a franchise player.  I just don't view him as a "can't miss" prospect.

That said, I'd trade anything short of Rondo to get him.   You can be assured that no team would take anything less than Rondo, however, which is ultimately why we won't get him.  Danny would never be foolish enough to take that kind of unnecessary risk.

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« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2013, 01:51:07 PM »

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Contending teams are built around big men, not point guards. Of course you move Rondo for him. We need a legit young defensive monster to anchor our team once KG is gone, we shouldn't pass up a chance to get such a player.

Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2013, 01:58:36 PM »

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Contending teams are built around big men, not point guards. Of course you move Rondo for him. We need a legit young defensive monster to anchor our team once KG is gone, we shouldn't pass up a chance to get such a player.

Contending teams are built around big men (generally), but, a big man alone will get you nowhere.  You still need an all-star or better level wing/guard to make it work.

I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable taking my chances on adding a big man to complement Rondo, than I would hoping that Noel 1st pans out, and then being able to complement him with an additional all-star.

Noel is not some surefire future HOF PF.

Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2013, 02:03:15 PM »

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Contending teams are built around big men, not point guards. Of course you move Rondo for him. We need a legit young defensive monster to anchor our team once KG is gone, we shouldn't pass up a chance to get such a player.

Contending teams are built around big men (generally), but, a big man alone will get you nowhere.  You still need an all-star or better level wing/guard to make it work.

I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable taking my chances on adding a big man to complement Rondo, than I would hoping that Noel 1st pans out, and then being able to complement him with an additional all-star.

Noel is not some surefire future HOF PF.

I hear you, but Noel doesn't have to be a surefire HOF big man, he just has to be a defensive beast in the middle who blocks shots, rebounds well, and has great lateral movement to anchor our team defense. He already has all of those things and a great work ethic to boot. Once KG is gone, it doesn't matter how good Rondo is, we can't win without a defensive big man. Just look at our team the last couple of seasons every time KG goes to the bench.

Noel plus Sullinger is a good foundation to build around. It's easier to find a point guard and a scorer than it is a young defensive star big man with a team first attitude. Look how overated Dwight Howard is.
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Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2013, 02:11:58 PM »

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Contending teams are built around big men, not point guards. Of course you move Rondo for him. We need a legit young defensive monster to anchor our team once KG is gone, we shouldn't pass up a chance to get such a player.

Contending teams are built around big men (generally), but, a big man alone will get you nowhere.  You still need an all-star or better level wing/guard to make it work.

I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable taking my chances on adding a big man to complement Rondo, than I would hoping that Noel 1st pans out, and then being able to complement him with an additional all-star.

Noel is not some surefire future HOF PF.

I hear you, but Noel doesn't have to be a surefire HOF big man, he just has to be a defensive beast in the middle who blocks shots, rebounds well, and has great lateral movement to anchor our team defense. He already has all of those things and a great owrk ethic to boot. Once KG is gone, it doesn't matter how good Rondo is, we can't win without a defensive big man. Just look at our team the last couple of seasons every time KG goes to the bench.

Noel plus Sullinger is a good foundation to build around. It's easier to find a point guard and a scorer than it is a young defensive star with a team first attitude. Look how overated Dwight Howard is.

Maybe you're right, and Noel will turn out to be what people think he will be.  I'm just more of the school of thought that a bird in hand is worth two in the bush, so to speak.

Adding an elite big is not easy, but neither is fielding a team around the big man.  Look how hard it was for Minny to put the proper pieces next to KG, or for Memphis to put the proper pieces next to Pau.  Portland is struggling to put the right pieces next to Aldridge, and so is Minny again (this time with Love).

Re: Celtics interview Nerlens Noel
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2013, 02:12:17 PM »

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larry sanders, nerlens noel, anthony davis, greg oden.

i want a player similar to KG in the paint. something like any of the players listed.

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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2013, 02:15:51 PM »

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larry sanders, nerlens noel, anthony davis, greg oden.

i want a player similar to KG in the paint. something like any of the players listed.

I'd love to have Drummond. After that, Noel is 2nd on my list, followed by Davis and Sanders. I would certainly take a shot on Oden this summer. Throw a few guaranteed years at a decent salary at him and hope he stays healthy. Much, much better gamble than Bynum.

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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2013, 02:17:13 PM »

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Contending teams are built around big men, not point guards. Of course you move Rondo for him. We need a legit young defensive monster to anchor our team once KG is gone, we shouldn't pass up a chance to get such a player.

Contending teams are built around big men (generally), but, a big man alone will get you nowhere.  You still need an all-star or better level wing/guard to make it work.

I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable taking my chances on adding a big man to complement Rondo, than I would hoping that Noel 1st pans out, and then being able to complement him with an additional all-star.

Noel is not some surefire future HOF PF.

I hear you, but Noel doesn't have to be a surefire HOF big man, he just has to be a defensive beast in the middle who blocks shots, rebounds well, and has great lateral movement to anchor our team defense. He already has all of those things and a great owrk ethic to boot. Once KG is gone, it doesn't matter how good Rondo is, we can't win without a defensive big man. Just look at our team the last couple of seasons every time KG goes to the bench.

Noel plus Sullinger is a good foundation to build around. It's easier to find a point guard and a scorer than it is a young defensive star with a team first attitude. Look how overated Dwight Howard is.

Maybe you're right, and Noel will turn out to be what people think he will be.  I'm just more of the school of thought that a bird in hand is worth two in the bush, so to speak.

Adding an elite big is not easy, but neither is fielding a team around the big man.  Look how hard it was for Minny to put the proper pieces next to KG, or for Memphis to put the proper pieces next to Pau.  Portland is struggling to put the right pieces next to Aldridge, and so is Minny again (this time with Love).

Maybe your right, I'm just of the mentality that you need a defensive anchor to contend, like KG or Duncan. Love and Aldridge are great players, but neither of them are defensive forces. Look at Memphis with Marc Gasol.

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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2013, 02:25:17 PM »

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Contending teams are built around big men, not point guards. Of course you move Rondo for him. We need a legit young defensive monster to anchor our team once KG is gone, we shouldn't pass up a chance to get such a player.

Contending teams are built around big men (generally), but, a big man alone will get you nowhere.  You still need an all-star or better level wing/guard to make it work.

I'd feel a whole lot more comfortable taking my chances on adding a big man to complement Rondo, than I would hoping that Noel 1st pans out, and then being able to complement him with an additional all-star.

Noel is not some surefire future HOF PF.

I hear you, but Noel doesn't have to be a surefire HOF big man, he just has to be a defensive beast in the middle who blocks shots, rebounds well, and has great lateral movement to anchor our team defense. He already has all of those things and a great owrk ethic to boot. Once KG is gone, it doesn't matter how good Rondo is, we can't win without a defensive big man. Just look at our team the last couple of seasons every time KG goes to the bench.

Noel plus Sullinger is a good foundation to build around. It's easier to find a point guard and a scorer than it is a young defensive star with a team first attitude. Look how overated Dwight Howard is.

Maybe you're right, and Noel will turn out to be what people think he will be.  I'm just more of the school of thought that a bird in hand is worth two in the bush, so to speak.

Adding an elite big is not easy, but neither is fielding a team around the big man.  Look how hard it was for Minny to put the proper pieces next to KG, or for Memphis to put the proper pieces next to Pau.  Portland is struggling to put the right pieces next to Aldridge, and so is Minny again (this time with Love).

Maybe your right, I'm just of the mentality that you need a defensive anchor to contend, like KG or Duncan. Love and Aldridge are great players, but neither of them are defensive forces. Look at Memphis with Marc Gasol.

Well, we're in agreement anyways that you do need an elite big, particularly one that plays defense.