If Pierce trade can land you only one, who do you want? JSmith or Al Jefferson?

[wdleehi]

Big Al.


The Celtics need that low post offensive threat and the size he brings vs. another smaller, quicker, jump shooting PF (though Smith is a much more talented version)

[Evantime34]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

[wdleehi]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

But no halfcourt offense.


Looks like a team that maxes out in the regular season but struggles in the playoffs.

[Evantime34]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

But no halfcourt offense.


Looks like a team that maxes out in the regular season but struggles in the playoffs.

In general they might struggle in the half court. However, Josh Smith and Rajon Rondo are both capable of elite performances (their consistency is another matter) but in the playoffs if both are on they can give you defense, scoring and rebounding at very high levels.

To me the team would be similar to the Clippers team this year, however we would have a significantly more competent coach to help things come together.

If you get Jefferson you could end up playing too much of a half court offense which would hurt the team overall. (I'm still a Big Al fan and would be happy with either, I just prefer Smith)

[wdleehi]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

But no halfcourt offense.


Looks like a team that maxes out in the regular season but struggles in the playoffs.

In general they might struggle in the half court. However, Josh Smith and Rajon Rondo are both capable of elite performances (their consistency is another matter) but in the playoffs if both are on they can give you defense, scoring and rebounding at very high levels.

To me the team would be similar to the Clippers team this year, however we would have a significantly more competent coach to help things come together.

If you get Jefferson you could end up playing too much of a half court offense which would hurt the team overall. (I'm still a Big Al fan and would be happy with either, I just prefer Smith)

Clippers had two better half court choices.



I see the playoff Bobcats of a few years ago with Wallace and Felton. 


Played hard during the regular season and did well.  Come playoff time, the lack of offensive players doomed them.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/2010.html

[Evantime34]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

But no halfcourt offense.


Looks like a team that maxes out in the regular season but struggles in the playoffs.

In general they might struggle in the half court. However, Josh Smith and Rajon Rondo are both capable of elite performances (their consistency is another matter) but in the playoffs if both are on they can give you defense, scoring and rebounding at very high levels.

To me the team would be similar to the Clippers team this year, however we would have a significantly more competent coach to help things come together.

If you get Jefferson you could end up playing too much of a half court offense which would hurt the team overall. (I'm still a Big Al fan and would be happy with either, I just prefer Smith)

Clippers had two better half court choices.



I see the playoff Bobcats of a few years ago with Wallace and Felton. 


Played hard during the regular season and did well.  Come playoff time, the lack of offensive players doomed them.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/2010.html

We are way better than that team was, Rondo, Green and Smith are all better than their counterparts at the time.

[wdleehi]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

But no halfcourt offense.


Looks like a team that maxes out in the regular season but struggles in the playoffs.

In general they might struggle in the half court. However, Josh Smith and Rajon Rondo are both capable of elite performances (their consistency is another matter) but in the playoffs if both are on they can give you defense, scoring and rebounding at very high levels.

To me the team would be similar to the Clippers team this year, however we would have a significantly more competent coach to help things come together.

If you get Jefferson you could end up playing too much of a half court offense which would hurt the team overall. (I'm still a Big Al fan and would be happy with either, I just prefer Smith)

Clippers had two better half court choices.



I see the playoff Bobcats of a few years ago with Wallace and Felton. 


Played hard during the regular season and did well.  Come playoff time, the lack of offensive players doomed them.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/2010.html

We are way better than that team was, Rondo, Green and Smith are all better than their counterparts at the time.

Are you that sure?


Wallace was an 18, 10, 1.5 steals, 1 block shooting 48%


Jackson was averaging 21 and 5



No, there isn't a Rondo, but the talent is closer then you think.

[More Banners]

I take Big Al any day for a number of reasons.

Big Al can get a shot of and be a bailout guy if needed.  Not a great one, but we need all we can get.

Big Al can manufacture 20pts every night in a number of ways:  low post buckets, midpost jumpers, putbacks, weakside flushes from Rondo, and, most importantly, by drawing fouls and hitting the shots.  His great hands will make him a great target for Rondo, and he can run the floor for a big guy.

On defense, he's decent on-man and as a helper, but weak in getting back and s/r defense.  Can protect rim with help blocks.  He has great hands to eat rebounds.

Big Al could keep KG playing for two more years.

That is so much better than what Josh Smith brings.  So much more.

[BigAlTheFuture]

The Al Jefferson obsession is obnoxious....he's a loser

So by default j Smith

Haha come on its the exact opposite. By default AJ

Seriously the j smith obsession because people want to see alley oops twice a game  is obnoxious

I agree the josh Smith obsession is obnoxious as well....he's better and has more impact then the pitiful turtle slow and dumb no defense big Al though, and he actually gets his team to the playoffs every year.

lin/cp3
harden/delfino
parson/smith
motejonas/robinson
hasik/howard

Come on dude... why is Harden starting over Delfino? LIKE SERIOUSLY?!?!

But seriously, I'd go with Big Al. But I might be a little bias. This team needs someone who can score in the low post, I'd take Jefferson's offensive arsenal over Smith's athleticism and shot blocking. Although seeing Smith, Green, and Rondo running the fast break would probably be the sickest thing on TV.

[Evantime34]

First off it depends on who we get for KG, If we can pick up a center prospect like DeAndre Jordan I would prefer Smith. If we get a solid four or two I would prefer Jefferson.

Ignoring what happens with KG, I think I prefer Smith from a stylistic perspective. Ever since Rondo has become the best player on the Celtics, they have attempted to get more athletic to run with Rondo. A team of Smith, Rondo, Bradley and Green all have good athleticism to push the pace with Rondo and more importantly force the turnovers that would allow them to run.

But no halfcourt offense.


Looks like a team that maxes out in the regular season but struggles in the playoffs.

In general they might struggle in the half court. However, Josh Smith and Rajon Rondo are both capable of elite performances (their consistency is another matter) but in the playoffs if both are on they can give you defense, scoring and rebounding at very high levels.

To me the team would be similar to the Clippers team this year, however we would have a significantly more competent coach to help things come together.

If you get Jefferson you could end up playing too much of a half court offense which would hurt the team overall. (I'm still a Big Al fan and would be happy with either, I just prefer Smith)

Clippers had two better half court choices.



I see the playoff Bobcats of a few years ago with Wallace and Felton. 


Played hard during the regular season and did well.  Come playoff time, the lack of offensive players doomed them.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/2010.html

We are way better than that team was, Rondo, Green and Smith are all better than their counterparts at the time.

Are you that sure?


Wallace was an 18, 10, 1.5 steals, 1 block shooting 48%


Jackson was averaging 21 and 5



No, there isn't a Rondo, but the talent is closer then you think.

They were around a .500 team and an 8th seed. I think the difference between our lineup is around 10 games. Green and Smith = Jackson and Wallace but Rondo over Felton and Bass, Sullinger, Terry and Bradley are around 10 games better than the Bobcats were.

So maybe the talent difference fairly close but the incremental difference would bring us more wins.

As an aside, I compared the J-Smoove Celtics to the Clippers, it would only be fair to ask you what you think a Big Al Celtics team would compare to (stylistically and skillwise)

[2short]

I take Big Al any day for a number of reasons.

Big Al can get a shot of and be a bailout guy if needed.  Not a great one, but we need all we can get.

Big Al can manufacture 20pts every night in a number of ways:  low post buckets, midpost jumpers, putbacks, weakside flushes from Rondo, and, most importantly, by drawing fouls and hitting the shots.  His great hands will make him a great target for Rondo, and he can run the floor for a big guy.

On defense, he's decent on-man and as a helper, but weak in getting back and s/r defense.  Can protect rim with help blocks.  He has great hands to eat rebounds.

Big Al could keep KG playing for two more years.

That is so much better than what Josh Smith brings.  So much more.

tp
I am not comparing the 2 and would love to see a running team of rondo, green, smith etc
BUT Al would/could extend kg's career and he would BY FAR give us the best low post option since shaq.  A big problem the celtics have had is no post of players.
finally josh smith is an enigma, sometimes i think he's a top notch player who just has been stuck on  teams/coaches that don't go well with him
then i see him chuck up dumb shots etc etc

mainly i'd take al for his low post offense and rebounding, two things we need big time
josh smith on defense,passing and running as a pf love

[CFAN38]

Big Al is better scorer and rebounder . Would love to see what prime Rondo and prime Big Al could do , with Rondo's passing ability , and big al's post moves !

Jeff Green does a lot of what Josh Smith can do .

Plus I want to see what Sully can develop into

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sully
Big Al

has potential to be a 50+ win team with a good bench IMO

I would go with big al but not because of rondo and especially not for sully. AL's game is a bad match for rondo, he is a half court dump it down scorer. Rondo works best with running bigs ( Wilcox) or pick and popping bigs ( kg, bass) . Big al is neither. Sully and big al would face the same problems on defence that love and big al faced in minn. all that said al is still the better player so I pick him over smith. For what they will get paid I also would take milsap over smith.

[twistedrico14]

Al Jefferson, without a doubt!

[gpap]

Al Jefferson

[bfrombleacher]

Big Al is better scorer and rebounder . Would love to see what prime Rondo and prime Big Al could do , with Rondo's passing ability , and big al's post moves !

Jeff Green does a lot of what Josh Smith can do .

Plus I want to see what Sully can develop into

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sully
Big Al

has potential to be a 50+ win team with a good bench IMO

I would go with big al but not because of rondo and especially not for sully. AL's game is a bad match for rondo, he is a half court dump it down scorer. Rondo works best with running bigs ( Wilcox) or pick and popping bigs ( kg, bass) . Big al is neither. Sully and big al would face the same problems on defence that love and big al faced in minn. all that said al is still the better player so I pick him over smith. For what they will get paid I also would take milsap over smith.

I think Shaq was neither a running big nor a popping big.

Sully finished plays quite nicely with Rondo, I recall.

Apart from 5 minutes of Wilcox a game, we had nobody to finish around the basket with Rondo. I think we need a good finisher because Rondo is a hell of a feeder.

And, man, Shaq was a dream.