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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2013, 10:39:09 PM »

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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2013, 11:07:23 PM »

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sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2013, 04:48:46 PM »

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Westbrook is really underrated. He's a top 3 slasher in the game right now and is one of the most explosive players that the game has seen.

He's way better to build around than Rondo, and Rondo is way a way better complimentary (2nd star) player than Westbrook.


Honestly, I would do this trade in a heart beat (Though I would push to trade Bradley instead of Green because it makes a LOT more sense). How did James Harden do when given the 1st option star player role? He reveled in it - Westbrook is one of those first in the gym and last to leave players. He's a fighter and he'll buy in to the Celtics mystique. I feel like he could put up more efficient Allen Iverson numbers.

James Harden definitely comes to mind. Westbrook has always been the sidekick to Durant but he has the talent to be the best player on just about any other team not named Miami. The Celtics lose depth, but they gain a superstar. Having one superstar might attract another. The Thunder do it because Rondo would be a better complimentary player for Durant and the role players on OKC, and Garnett would make them a defensive juggernaut. Green was included because OKC is not going to give up Westbrook unless the offer is too good to refuse.

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2013, 04:50:11 PM »

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sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.

Rondo is an all-star. Westbrook could be a superstar. Have to throw in Green and KG in order to get the Thunder to bite.

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2013, 04:59:49 PM »

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sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.
Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.
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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2013, 05:00:53 PM »

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I am not so in love with Rondo that I would be opposed to a trade that started with Rondo and Westbrook but I can't see KG and Green involved.

Maybe they would be interested in someone like Jason Terry or Brandon Bass along with Rondo for Westbrook.  I don't think you need to go much farther than that to match salaries and talent.

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2013, 05:04:45 PM »

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At a minimum Perkins would have to be added for both salary and because he is a bad contract.  I think OKC would probably need more young players

This works financially and would probably be a pretty fair trade for both teams

Rondo, Garnett, Green, Bradley, Melo (or sullinger)

for

Westbrook, Perkins, Lamb, Sefolosha, Collison


I'd do it as Russ is a much better player to build around than Rondo.  Boston would still be pretty good next year with Perkins, Sullinger, Pierce, Sefo, and Westbrook along with Collison, Lee, Lamb, Bass, and Terry


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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2013, 05:07:29 PM »

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I am not so in love with Rondo that I would be opposed to a trade that started with Rondo and Westbrook but I can't see KG and Green involved.

Maybe they would be interested in someone like Jason Terry or Brandon Bass along with Rondo for Westbrook.  I don't think you need to go much farther than that to match salaries and talent.

I think the Thunder would definitely want Garnett included in the trade in place of Perkins. Garnett would solve a lot of problems for them offensively and defensively. Green has to be included if Lamb is coming back to Boston. The Thunder aren't playing Lamb but he is very talented. I love Green but you have to give up something to get something.

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2013, 05:12:41 PM »

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I am not so in love with Rondo that I would be opposed to a trade that started with Rondo and Westbrook but I can't see KG and Green involved.

Maybe they would be interested in someone like Jason Terry or Brandon Bass along with Rondo for Westbrook.  I don't think you need to go much farther than that to match salaries and talent.

I think the Thunder would definitely want Garnett included in the trade in place of Perkins. Garnett would solve a lot of problems for them offensively and defensively. Green has to be included if Lamb is coming back to Boston. The Thunder aren't playing Lamb but he is very talented. I love Green but you have to give up something to get something.
I understand that OKC would like to dump Perk and get KG but there is that no trade thing.  I just can't see KG going to OKC.  I actually think he is done (will retire) but if he does play, I see Boston or LA period.

And Grreen for Lamb, I don't know enough about Lamb to be able to judge that but Green plays the same position as Durant so I don't see why OK would want him back?

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2013, 07:49:58 PM »

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I am not so in love with Rondo that I would be opposed to a trade that started with Rondo and Westbrook but I can't see KG and Green involved.

Maybe they would be interested in someone like Jason Terry or Brandon Bass along with Rondo for Westbrook.  I don't think you need to go much farther than that to match salaries and talent.

I think the Thunder would definitely want Garnett included in the trade in place of Perkins. Garnett would solve a lot of problems for them offensively and defensively. Green has to be included if Lamb is coming back to Boston. The Thunder aren't playing Lamb but he is very talented. I love Green but you have to give up something to get something.
I understand that OKC would like to dump Perk and get KG but there is that no trade thing.  I just can't see KG going to OKC.  I actually think he is done (will retire) but if he does play, I see Boston or LA period.

And Grreen for Lamb, I don't know enough about Lamb to be able to judge that but Green plays the same position as Durant so I don't see why OK would want him back?

OKC probably isn't KG's first choice, but I'd have to guess its towards the top of his list.

I think adding KG and Rondo to Westbrook-less Thunder that we saw in the playoffs and I think they are favorites to get to the finals out of the West. That'll go a long way in convincing him to finish his career on the Thunder.

I agree that Green is sort of redundant for OKC given how much Durant plays, Bradley makes more sense in terms of contracts and players I think. You swap Rondo for Westbrook, KG is a HUGE upgrade over Perk (and when he finally retires you get his cap savings to chase a quality big) and then trade Lamb for Bradley. Lamb probably has more upside, but both are cheap and Bradley has a unique skill set that will be advantageous when they go up against Chris Paul, Parker, Curry etc. in the playoffs and he can contribute now..


Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2013, 08:34:20 PM »

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sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.
Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.

Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2013, 08:37:21 PM »

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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2013, 08:59:28 PM »

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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2013, 09:35:55 PM »

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sigh. another awful trade idea. Rondo is better than Westbrook let alone sending Jeff Green and KG.
Rondo 3rd team All NBA, 1 year.  Westbrook 2nd team All NBA, 2 years.  Westbrook in the league a lot fewer seasons and will more than likely pick up another All NBA this year (they haven't been announced yet).  Rondo is a better passer than Westbrook, but that is about it, and when you don't have anyone of note to pass to, a pass first PG is worthless.  Boston needs someone like Westbrook.  A guy who can take over games with his scoring especially if that guy is going to be his teams best player.

  It's not just passing that Rondo does better, it's more like everything involved in running an offense. He might be "worthless" on a team full of players that can create their own shots when they need to, other than that most players will benefit from having easier shots to take. If you look at the top scorers in the league, Westbrook's at or near the bottom of the pack in terms of scoring efficiency. He's a volume shooter, it would be kind of like building your team around a (somewhat poor man's) Iverson.
I think Russ is easier to build around than Iverson.  He seems less selfish, is bigger, a better rebounder, and he is far more efficient than Iverson was.

And let's not kid ourselves, very few players in history have gone for 23+ points, 7+ assists, and 5+ rebounds in a season, like Westbrook just did.  Not to mention the nearly 2 steals a game.

Westbrook also has a much higher TS% than Rondo, so while his FG percentage is lower he is much better from the line and 3 PT range making up for the difference in the 2 PT5.
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Re: Rondo, Garnett, and Green in exchange for Westbrook and Lamb
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2013, 09:37:18 PM »

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well from okc's point of view i think they'd be extremely happy to add rondo to durant, westbrook's gunning must be causing some issues there
throw in kg and green
yeah good trade idea............