How hard is it to get Big Al for next year?

[badshar]

Assuming KG and Pierce return, how hard is to bring Big Al to Boston?

I don't know much about the CBA, so please correct me if I am wrong.

Is it possible to sign and trade for Big Al? Assume that he is willing to take a paycut to a point where his salary would be the total amount of salary that we trade.

Is it possible?

Same thing about J-Smoove. Can it be done for him?
I am not talking about doing it for both (That would be so cool if we can get both while keeping Rondo, KG, Pierce and Green), but either one.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Shouldn't be hard, particularly if Danny doesn't mind parting with a draft pick.

[Who]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

[snively]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

Especially with Marvin Williams on the books for ~$8 mil next season.
 

[badshar]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

So we are assuming that we will trade Jeff Green?

[AB_Celtic]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

So we are assuming that we will trade Jeff Green?

I really don't want to. This season told me all I need to know about Jeff. He's worth the 8mil we're paying him, and he's an excellent, young scorer that we shouldn't just trade away.

[Who]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

Especially with Marvin Williams on the books for ~$8 mil next season.

Oh, that is a bummer. I thought his contract was up this summer. One year left.

That will complicate things.

[Who]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

So we are assuming that we will trade Jeff Green?

How else are you going to get Big Al?

Maybe a three way deal for Paul Pierce with Pierce going to somewhere like the Dallas Mavericks and a trade exception heading back to Utah. Throw in a draft pick.

I don't see any point in going after Big Al if Garnett isn't here to minimize Big Al's weaknesses defensively. It would have to be Pierce.

Or Rondo.

[LarBrd33]

you could get Big Al for Rajon Rondo.  The Jazz could use a quality PG... but the Jazz would have some reservations about it since Rondo is coming off major ACL surgery and is still 6-9 months away from even being able to run.

Beyond that, I see no realistic way to land Big Al. 

[AB_Celtic]

I think a lot of it depends on whether Utah wants Jeff Green or not.

So we are assuming that we will trade Jeff Green?

How else are you going to get Big Al?

Maybe a three way deal for Paul Pierce with Pierce going to somewhere like the Dallas Mavericks and a trade exception heading back to Utah. Throw in a draft pick.

I don't see any point in going after Big Al if Garnett isn't here to minimize Big Al's weaknesses defensively. It would have to be Pierce.

Or Rondo.

One thing I proposed in another thread was...

Bradley, Bass, Terry, 16th pick for Jefferson (12m S&T)

Why for us: obvious.
Why for Utah: they are letting Favors and Kanter take over anyways, and they need quality guards. Bradley and Terry fit the bill; Bass is a solid backup big, and they take a decent PG with the 16th.

Is this still not enough?

[EJPLAYA]

If Big Al were the difference between us and a title he wouldn't have been allowed to leave UT. They would have thrown max money at him and shipped out Favors or Millsap. He is a great offensive player, but can't defend a chair. That won't win anything in the playoffs. We saw that the past two seasons.

[ejk3489]

It would be pretty difficult. The CBA forbids any team with a total salary higher than the tax level to complete a sign and trade transaction, and the C's will be around $73 mil if PP/KG stay. The luxury tax is estimated to be around $71 mil next season and assuming Al's asking price is $14-15 mil a year, the Celtics would have to shed most if not all of that. So Green + Lee/Terry would probably be the most realistic option.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm certainly not an expert when it comes to understanding the CBA. 

you could get Big Al for Rajon Rondo.  The Jazz could use a quality PG... but the Jazz would have some reservations about it since Rondo is coming off major ACL surgery and is still 6-9 months away from even being able to run.

Beyond that, I see no realistic way to land Big Al.

The Jazz would not even hesitate to make that deal. If the choice is to let Big Al go for nothing or Rondo, they pick the 2nd option every single time.

They aren't going to get anything close to that value anywhere else. With so many teams under the cap next year, Al will have plenty of destinations to choose from, and the Jazz will have no choice but to let him walk.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

If Big Al were the difference between us and a title he wouldn't have been allowed to leave UT. They would have thrown max money at him and shipped out Favors or Millsap. He is a great offensive player, but can't defend a chair. That won't win anything in the playoffs. We saw that the past two seasons.

I don't know about title b/c we couldn't make it out of the first round but our ONE problem in the playoffs was scoring... Big AL would have been the answer.

[LarBrd33]

It would be pretty difficult. The CBA forbids any team with a total salary higher than the tax level to complete a sign and trade transaction, and the C's will be around $73 mil if PP/KG stay. The luxury tax is estimated to be around $71 mil next season and assuming Al's asking price is $14-15 mil a year, the Celtics would have to shed most if not all of that. So Green + Lee/Terry would probably be the most realistic option.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm certainly not an expert when it comes to understanding the CBA. 

you could get Big Al for Rajon Rondo.  The Jazz could use a quality PG... but the Jazz would have some reservations about it since Rondo is coming off major ACL surgery and is still 6-9 months away from even being able to run.

Beyond that, I see no realistic way to land Big Al.

The Jazz would not even hesitate to make that deal. If the choice is to let Big Al go for nothing or Rondo, they pick the 2nd option every single time.

They aren't going to get anything close to that value anywhere else. With so many teams under the cap next year, Al will have plenty of destinations to choose from, and the Jazz will have no choice but to let him walk.

... the jazz could just re-sign Big Al and move one of their young pieces instead (Favors or Kanter)... Big al hasn't said he wants out... there's no reason they need to trade him.   There's certainly no reason they need to trade him for a top 10 PG coming off major ACL surgery who might not even play next season. 

[badshar]

Have you all forgotten this?

"This will always be my home away from home, first place I’ve been; gave me a chance when nobody else did," added Jefferson. "If that (returning to Boston) ever happened, I’d love to do that again. But right now, it’s all about taking care of business and finishing the season off right."

http://www.csnne.com/article/jefferson-would-love-return-boston

1. With that quote, I think he will definitely be willing to take a pay cut and not demand so much money that he puts the franchise in no position to get him.

2. If we get him, then that means we are reloading for another run. If he takes less money to help this franchise win, that will cement his legacy perfectly. Sure he wouldn't be on the same level as KG, but people would remember that he took a major sacrifice to help his true team.

Also, if he is willing to take a pay cut (which, I think he will), then I don't think there will be need to touch the Rondo-Pierce-Green-KG core. Outside of that, we can trade enough people to match the salary that we could pay him.