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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2013, 12:00:35 PM »

Offline JHTruth

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We really don't have to do anything if KG and PP leave. We'll be so bad we'll auto-tank. No major FA will come here when your top two players leave. It appears Rondo will miss most of next year.

So that leaves Green and Sully to try to carry this team to the playoffs. Bradley stinks to high heaven.

We were one of the worst defensive teams in the league with KG off the floor this year and PP is our no 1 option.

Don't do anything. Clear a bunch of space, get a top 5 pick next year, and then clear cap space. Dump vets and salary. Get Rondo healthy.

It will be one rough year but hopefully we can rebound after that

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2013, 12:52:16 PM »

Offline toine83

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1. backup PG and C (Ridnour+Stiemsma for Lee + filler)
2. starting SG (Henderson for Bradley/Crawford+ filler)
3. Ryan Anderson (Bass,Melo + filler)
4. Greg Oden?

Keep Rondo,Pierce,Green,Terry,Garnett,Sully,Williams, Wilcox

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 01:10:38 PM »

Offline bobbyv

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Sign and Trade for Al Jeff as someone said earlier. Get a good backup PG to run the offense while Rondo recovers

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2013, 01:13:52 PM »

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Fire Danny Ainge.  He's been at this too long and hasn't had the balls to move on.  The contracts he handed out last season were really unforgivable.  Hopefully get Kg and Pierce of the books.   

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2013, 01:26:50 PM »

Offline Yoki_IsTheName

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1st would be this. Bradley, Lee, Melo, Crawford and to some extent Sully and Jet along the 16th pick. I will try to move up to get Alex Len. It will be tough but will at least try to work the phones to get him. He can be the help KG is looking for.

If not (which might be the case) then go salary dump with the same names but take Sully out. Will prefer to get picks for those names, even second rounders so it's plausible. Use Bradley and the 16th to move up and pick Shabbaz Muhammad. The kid has problems but has tremendous potential. We have the locker room leadership to sort him out.

Use the acquired picks to gain assets.

Sign Jason Smith with the MLE or Sammy D with the same amount but only one year. Both are capable, tough minded bigs.

Talk to Doc about PLAYING the darn bigs that we have. And Paul HAS to be 6th man.

So for that reload, assuming the trades worked out. It will be...

Rondo/T-Will
Shabazz/Jet
Green/PP/Bass
KG/Sully/Bass
Jason Smith/KG

Then fill the rest Jeremy Tyler, some draftees.
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PG: Jrue Holiday / Isaiah Thomas / Larry Hughes
SG: Paul George / Aaron McKie / Bradley Beal
SF: Paul Pierce / Tayshaun Prince / Brian Scalabrine
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Shareef Abdur-Raheem / Ben Simmons
C: Jermaine O'neal / Ben Wallace

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2013, 01:37:26 PM »

Offline pearljammer10

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With 14 out of our current 15 players under contract for next year we have little wiggle room. We really don't have many assets to trade. We aren't trading a package of "bass, melo, lee, and terry for an all star big man" or anything of that nature lets get real here.

I think we run it back for one more year with everyone healthy. Pierce's contract is up and then I can see KG walking. Try to make a couple minor deals if we can, the biggest need being a legit center who can rebound and post up. No more undersized big men, and let KG move back to PF for 25 minutes a game.

Bold are our absolute keeps. We have log jams at guard and power forward. So we look to dump a few of those pieces for younger assets or cap space if possible. And the only reasonable big man addition I can see now would be Dalembert and that doesnt sky rocket us into contention.

Rondo/Lee/T-Will
Bradley/Terry/Crawford
Pierce/Green
KG/Sully/Bass
Dalembert/Randolph/Melo

This at least keeps us competitive. Lee, Twill, Crawford, Bass and Melo all used as trade bait or hopeful salary dumps somehow. With the East being so weak and a healthy squad to throw out there. We can at least be competitive one more year. Then let Pierce and KG retire at years end.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2013, 01:47:46 PM »

Offline Celtics4ever

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Draft Dieng at 16.  Start him at C.   Move KG to PF.   Start PP at SF.   Bradley at SG, Rondo at PG.

Sully, Green, Terry and Bass off the bench.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2013, 01:58:21 PM »

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Typically with this management team it will take a decade with some luck of the draw for the Celtics to be competitive again. Big need is to clean house and re tool.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2013, 02:10:56 PM »

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Here is my more realistic option. We amnesty Pierce, KG retires. When the Thunder amnesty Perkins we put in a winning bid. At best we are a seven seed in the east. More likely this is a lottery team in a year that has an bunch of franchise players in it.

Perkins/Rookie 1st/Fab
Sully/Bass/Shav
Green/Cheap free agent
Bradley/Terry/Crawford
Rondo/T-Will
DKC:  Rockets
CB Draft: Memphis Grizz
Players: Klay Thompson, Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon
Next 3 picks: 4.14, 4.15, 4.19

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2013, 02:46:59 PM »

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Josh Smith is the guy I want with Jeff Green as the bait for a sign and trade.

how can green and sully develop as starters with smith on the team? tell me?
what if pierce or green was injured? put smith at SF?
pf is sully and?
would you pay a max contract guy..who can't even hit free throws? and jump shots are bad
Josh Smith would start at PF. Garnett at C. Sullinger backup PF/C. Sully will have more than enough minutes in that role to grow as a player.

Jeff Green wouldn't be here. He'd be the piece Danny would need to give up to get Josh Smith here in a sign and trade. A new backup SF would need to be acquired in free agency. If Pierce (starting SF) gets injured, backup SF takes over and third string SF takes over backup SF role.

I would be willing to overpay Josh Smith to get him here. I would rather overpay a star like Josh Smith than a bunch of bench players like Brandon Bass, Jason Terry and Courtney Lee.

What if Pierce retires or is traded to somewhere for Al Jefferson? And then Garnett immediately retires upon the exit of Pierce. Couldn't we still keep Jeff Green and get Josh Smith? And then trade all the scrubs off our bench (Bass, Terry, Lee, etc)


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Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2013, 02:48:01 PM »

Offline letsgoblue86

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Here is my more realistic option. We amnesty Pierce, KG retires. When the Thunder amnesty Perkins we put in a winning bid. At best we are a seven seed in the east. More likely this is a lottery team in a year that has an bunch of franchise players in it.

Perkins/Rookie 1st/Fab
Sully/Bass/Shav
Green/Cheap free agent
Bradley/Terry/Crawford
Rondo/T-Will
Yikes!  Definitely a realistic possibility, not one that would make a bunch of people happy.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2013, 02:58:30 PM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

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Here is my more realistic option. We amnesty Pierce, KG retires. When the Thunder amnesty Perkins we put in a winning bid. At best we are a seven seed in the east. More likely this is a lottery team in a year that has an bunch of franchise players in it.

Perkins/Rookie 1st/Fab
Sully/Bass/Shav
Green/Cheap free agent
Bradley/Terry/Crawford
Rondo/T-Will

never happen

Celtics is a HUGE HUGE money making franchise ....you are dreaming if you think the owners will let the team fall of the earth , for a "CHANCE at a Lottery pick"

They spent alot of effort to revive the Celtics...II don't see them throwing away the opportunity to continue to make a serious profit .  The Bobcats lottery EVERY YEAR for a million years  is right for that market .

Celtics have a good  money maker world wide, KG is a good product even if the teenie boppers /high school kiddies are crying,  they aren't going to build it up ,  to dump the club into the doldrums for another 10 years .

LOL  ....very funny.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2013, 02:59:08 PM »

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1. Trade Green/Bass/Crawford/1st for Cousins and Salmons.
2. Sign Jamal Tinsely or Chancey Billups. Both would be enticed to come here
3. Trade Fab Melo and Lee anywhere and get a high energy player that is 6'8 or taller. Maybe Perkins?
4. Don't resign Wilcox

This gives the Celtics cap flexibility for 2014 and 2015

Rondo/Billups
Bradley/Terry
Pierce/Salmons
KG/Sullinger
Cousins/Perkins

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2013, 03:10:07 PM »

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Josh Smith is the guy I want with Jeff Green as the bait for a sign and trade.

how can green and sully develop as starters with smith on the team? tell me?
what if pierce or green was injured? put smith at SF?
pf is sully and?
would you pay a max contract guy..who can't even hit free throws? and jump shots are bad
Josh Smith would start at PF. Garnett at C. Sullinger backup PF/C. Sully will have more than enough minutes in that role to grow as a player.

Jeff Green wouldn't be here. He'd be the piece Danny would need to give up to get Josh Smith here in a sign and trade. A new backup SF would need to be acquired in free agency. If Pierce (starting SF) gets injured, backup SF takes over and third string SF takes over backup SF role.

I would be willing to overpay Josh Smith to get him here. I would rather overpay a star like Josh Smith than a bunch of bench players like Brandon Bass, Jason Terry and Courtney Lee.

What if Pierce retires or is traded to somewhere for Al Jefferson? And then Garnett immediately retires upon the exit of Pierce. Couldn't we still keep Jeff Green and get Josh Smith? And then trade all the scrubs off our bench (Bass, Terry, Lee, etc)
I don't expect KG or Pierce to retire.

I don't know whether the team would have enough cap space to sign Josh Smith outright if those two did leave.

If not, the only way I can see to sign Josh Smith and keep Jeff Green would be to trade Paul Pierce or Kevin Garnett in a three team deal where Atlanta picks up a trade exception or expiring contract + draft picks in the deal. Or for Rajon Rondo.

Re: Give me your offseason plan...get creative but keep it realistic
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2013, 03:22:36 PM »

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1. Trade Green/Bass/Crawford/1st for Cousins and Salmons.
2. Sign Jamal Tinsely or Chancey Billups. Both would be enticed to come here
3. Trade Fab Melo and Lee anywhere and get a high energy player that is 6'8 or taller. Maybe Perkins?
4. Don't resign Wilcox

This gives the Celtics cap flexibility for 2014 and 2015

Rondo/Billups
Bradley/Terry
Pierce/Salmons
KG/Sullinger
Cousins/Perkins

That team is ripe for injuries...

Rondo: coming back from ACL injury
Billups: hasn't been able to recover from his previous injury
Bradley: I hate to say it, but at this point, we've really got to start questioning this kid's durability. Look at all the problems he's had since he's been here, and he's only 22
Terry: looked every bit of washed up
Pierce: same as Terry
Salmons: same as Pierce & Terry
KG: fought through a laundry list of ailments this year
Sully: back problems
Perk: lets not forget that he wasn't exactly immune to nagging problems (specifically with his shoulder) while he was here

The only player on that list that doesn't have a major flag on their medical resume is Cousins.