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if all big man free agents got better offer than bass,
should we rather trade him for 2nd round picks or any pf like jason thompson, jason smith, anthony randolph, cole aldrich, kevin seraphin (just to dump salary?)
we just add fab melo white wilcox as our fillers?

terry is unlikely to get traded, with season awful shooting, with a contract of 3 years

and sign timofey mozgov 3.1 million?
greg oden

so our line-up would be

rondo
bradley/lee
pierce/green
kg
oden

reserves
crawford
terry/lee
green/pierce
sully
mozgov

rest of reserves
shavlik t-will + 2 round picks?

good or bad line-up?

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Oden, lol
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Oden, lol

Please, PLEASE, post things that are more than one line. Honestly it just fills up the boards and you aren't saying anything substantial.

I am all for giving Oden a chance, but unfortunately I think the Cavs are going to nab him. And if they do, and he succeeds, I could easily see LeBron returning to Cleveland.

PG: Irving
SG: Waiters
SF: James
PF: Thompson
C: Oden
6th: Varejao

When healthy, that's a title team.

I've been saying for a while, our best option is to let KG retire, sign a big-market big, and use Pierce as our 6th man / 4th quarter specialist.

PG: Rondo
SG: Bradley
SF: Green
PF: Sullinger
C: Top 10 Center
6th: Pierce

That team might not win a title, but it will contend and it will be fun to watch.

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Oden, lol

did you understand my post?

My question for you is, why would Oden want to sign in Boston?
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The Boston Celtics met with free-agent center Greg Oden on Saturday, according to president of basketball operations Danny Ainge.

The meeting comes as the injury-riddled Oden intensifies his search for a team with the goal of returning to the NBA next season. Ainge confirmed the exploratory meeting.


The Celtics were not previously believed to be a strong candidate for Oden's services, but Saturday's meeting suggests otherwise.

San Antonio, New Orleans, Charlotte, Indiana and Dallas have been monitoring the rehab of Oden and are in the running for his services, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard earlier this week.

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Please, PLEASE, post things that are more than one line. Honestly it just fills up the boards and you aren't saying anything substantial.

In my opinion, Greg Oden isn't and shouldn't sign with us. Firstly, he's a pretty sought-after player because everyone knows his potential is massive; why else did he get drafted first? Therefore, he basically gets to pick where he wants to play. From what I've heard, he's looking at Cleveland (because that's where he is) and Miami (who doesn't want a championship?) most closely. I don't know why he added Boston to his list, but it's probably because he expected us to go far this season (we're pretty big underachievers... injury was a big reason).

Next, teams are gonna pay for players they want. We don't have much money and are right up against the salary cap. Why would he want to take less money in a less desirable location? I don't see a reason.

Maybe if Pierce, KG, Rondo, Doc find ways to convince him it could happen. Getting destroyed by a New York team that hasn't reached its potential doesn't help our cause. He wants to win, like anybody else, and he wants money. We can guarantee neither.

I doubt Oden signs with us.
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Oden, lol

did you understand my post?

My question for you is, why would Oden want to sign in Boston?

we have nothing to offer for a rebuild?
i said this before who would take awful shooting terry 3 years?
fab melo DNP?
white DNP?
if you trade lee and crawford who is your replacement?
30+ age barbosa who came from ACL injury? that wants a release this season?

even bass can't rebounds, he is the most likable player to get traded for his jump shots and floor spacing, maybe he belongs to a run n' gun system

as for the 3guy who posted here, even you expect kg to retire..you still need to pay his salary because he is in contract with the team
trading pierce with rondo terry bass green salary still we are in hard cap....

there are some teams that needed a center also...any teams can make a better offer for al jefferson, even OKC needs one...also those gortat etc;
for example okc offered perry jones and lamb for gortat or al jeff, then c's offer bass and lee? who would you take?

oden is somewhat in our salary range...why does oden sign in celtics? because this is a defensive team and doc rivers is our coach...
and mozgov...i doubt some teams will offer above 3 million a year...i think celtics can have him even for 4million below since he is getting 3.1 million and it will slighty increased for next year (salary)

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I am not really interested in signing Greg Oden.

We already have a project center in Fab Melo. If we have both of those guys on the books, we will still need to have 3 other centers on the roster to have proper depth there since neither one of them can be counted on to contribute next season.

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why does oden sign in celtics? because this is a defensive team and doc rivers is our coach...

To be honest, if I were Greg Oden I'd want a championship and more than 3 million dollars if I got an offer. I know teams like the Bobcats and Hornets can offer that. Plus, why wouldn't he play for other great coaches like Pop or Spo, who have much better chances at winning a championship? Just look at Birdman or Diaw.
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Please, PLEASE, post things that are more than one line. Honestly it just fills up the boards and you aren't saying anything substantial.

In my opinion, Greg Oden isn't and shouldn't sign with us. Firstly, he's a pretty sought-after player because everyone knows his potential is massive; why else did he get drafted first? Therefore, he basically gets to pick where he wants to play. From what I've heard, he's looking at Cleveland (because that's where he is) and Miami (who doesn't want a championship?) most closely. I don't know why he added Boston to his list, but it's probably because he expected us to go far this season (we're pretty big underachievers... injury was a big reason).

Next, teams are gonna pay for players they want. We don't have much money and are right up against the salary cap. Why would he want to take less money in a less desirable location? I don't see a reason.

Maybe if Pierce, KG, Rondo, Doc find ways to convince him it could happen. Getting destroyed by a New York team that hasn't reached its potential doesn't help our cause. He wants to win, like anybody else, and he wants money. We can guarantee neither.

I doubt Oden signs with us.

we have no trade assets but signing a cheap center
example utah jazz
they got 4 center kanter millsap jefferson favors
they are dumping salary on either millsap or jefferson
they need to decreased salary to one of them jefferson or millsap, then celtics will sign-in trade bass 6million and terry 5million and so is lee 5million? why would they do that?

let say   memphis clearing some cap space then you trade gay for a player higher than his salary?
bass is given terrible contract, it should be just 4 million per year...
terry should be at 4 or million a year also

this makes it hard for a team to accept a deal with those kind of awful season performances,
that is why signing a free agent like oden is likely to happen, and trading bass for a cheaper just to have some salary decreased
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why does oden sign in celtics? because this is a defensive team and doc rivers is our coach...

To be honest, if I were Greg Oden I'd want a championship and more than 3 million dollars if I got an offer. I know teams like the Bobcats and Hornets can offer that. Plus, why wouldn't he play for other great coaches like Pop or Spo, who have much better chances at winning a championship? Just look at Birdman or Diaw.

bosh free agent around 20million
d-wade free agent 20million
lebron free agent 20million

by trading chalmers miller battier allen, they can have greg oden

spo is surrounded by great players (spo is not a good coach to me)
popavich got some aging players

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Please, PLEASE, post things that are more than one line. Honestly it just fills up the boards and you aren't saying anything substantial.

In my opinion, Greg Oden isn't and shouldn't sign with us. Firstly, he's a pretty sought-after player because everyone knows his potential is massive; why else did he get drafted first? Therefore, he basically gets to pick where he wants to play. From what I've heard, he's looking at Cleveland (because that's where he is) and Miami (who doesn't want a championship?) most closely. I don't know why he added Boston to his list, but it's probably because he expected us to go far this season (we're pretty big underachievers... injury was a big reason).

Next, teams are gonna pay for players they want. We don't have much money and are right up against the salary cap. Why would he want to take less money in a less desirable location? I don't see a reason.

Maybe if Pierce, KG, Rondo, Doc find ways to convince him it could happen. Getting destroyed by a New York team that hasn't reached its potential doesn't help our cause. He wants to win, like anybody else, and he wants money. We can guarantee neither.

I doubt Oden signs with us.

we have no trade assist but signing a cheap center
example utah jazz
they got 4 center kanter millsap jefferson favors
they are dumping salary on either millsap or jefferson
they need to decreased salary to one of them jefferson or millsap, then celtics will sign-in trade bass 6million and terry 5million and so is lee 5million? why would they do that?

let say   memphis clearing some cap space then you trade gay for a player higher than his salary?
bass is given terrible contract, it should be just 4 million per year...
terry should be at 4 or million a year also

this makes it hard for a team to accept a deal with those kind of awful season performances,
that is why signing a free agent like oden is likely to happen, and trading bass for a cheaper just to have some salary decreased

Jeff Green could be a useful trade asset for landing a quality starting caliber big man due to his strong play in the second half of the season.

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Please, PLEASE, post things that are more than one line. Honestly it just fills up the boards and you aren't saying anything substantial.

In my opinion, Greg Oden isn't and shouldn't sign with us. Firstly, he's a pretty sought-after player because everyone knows his potential is massive; why else did he get drafted first? Therefore, he basically gets to pick where he wants to play. From what I've heard, he's looking at Cleveland (because that's where he is) and Miami (who doesn't want a championship?) most closely. I don't know why he added Boston to his list, but it's probably because he expected us to go far this season (we're pretty big underachievers... injury was a big reason).

Next, teams are gonna pay for players they want. We don't have much money and are right up against the salary cap. Why would he want to take less money in a less desirable location? I don't see a reason.

Maybe if Pierce, KG, Rondo, Doc find ways to convince him it could happen. Getting destroyed by a New York team that hasn't reached its potential doesn't help our cause. He wants to win, like anybody else, and he wants money. We can guarantee neither.

I doubt Oden signs with us.

we have no trade assist but signing a cheap center
example utah jazz
they got 4 center kanter millsap jefferson favors
they are dumping salary on either millsap or jefferson
they need to decreased salary to one of them jefferson or millsap, then celtics will sign-in trade bass 6million and terry 5million and so is lee 5million? why would they do that?

let say   memphis clearing some cap space then you trade gay for a player higher than his salary?
bass is given terrible contract, it should be just 4 million per year...
terry should be at 4 or million a year also

this makes it hard for a team to accept a deal with those kind of awful season performances,
that is why signing a free agent like oden is likely to happen, and trading bass for a cheaper just to have some salary decreased

Jeff Green could be a useful trade asset for landing a quality starting caliber big man due to his strong play in the second half of the season.

If we trade Green, then we'll have to find another starting-caliber SF. There ain't no need for that; Jeff Green at 9/4 could be a steal, and I think it's great we locked him up. Jeff Green is a Celtic. Ain't going nowhere.

Let's get a center without trading Jeff Green or Rajon Rondo. Everyone else is expendable (even Bradley, Sully)
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Please, PLEASE, post things that are more than one line. Honestly it just fills up the boards and you aren't saying anything substantial.

In my opinion, Greg Oden isn't and shouldn't sign with us. Firstly, he's a pretty sought-after player because everyone knows his potential is massive; why else did he get drafted first? Therefore, he basically gets to pick where he wants to play. From what I've heard, he's looking at Cleveland (because that's where he is) and Miami (who doesn't want a championship?) most closely. I don't know why he added Boston to his list, but it's probably because he expected us to go far this season (we're pretty big underachievers... injury was a big reason).

Next, teams are gonna pay for players they want. We don't have much money and are right up against the salary cap. Why would he want to take less money in a less desirable location? I don't see a reason.

Maybe if Pierce, KG, Rondo, Doc find ways to convince him it could happen. Getting destroyed by a New York team that hasn't reached its potential doesn't help our cause. He wants to win, like anybody else, and he wants money. We can guarantee neither.

I doubt Oden signs with us.

we have no trade assist but signing a cheap center
example utah jazz
they got 4 center kanter millsap jefferson favors
they are dumping salary on either millsap or jefferson
they need to decreased salary to one of them jefferson or millsap, then celtics will sign-in trade bass 6million and terry 5million and so is lee 5million? why would they do that?

let say   memphis clearing some cap space then you trade gay for a player higher than his salary?
bass is given terrible contract, it should be just 4 million per year...
terry should be at 4 or million a year also

this makes it hard for a team to accept a deal with those kind of awful season performances,
that is why signing a free agent like oden is likely to happen, and trading bass for a cheaper just to have some salary decreased

Jeff Green could be a useful trade asset for landing a quality starting caliber big man due to his strong play in the second half of the season.

and who would replace jeff green? (pierce?)
i think ainge is targeting a center for draft night
small forward with height and defense that can play power forward is hard to come by, unless ainge acquired a legit SF rookie,
i'll just keep green

and i will not trade bradley unless tony allen or mayo sign with team... and sully has potential playing beside kg, if doc decides to moved kg back at pf