Jason Terry has been a staggering bust

[ctrey]

His stats this year have been brutal. Basically his worst since his rookie year and in some cases worst ever. When Jordan Crawford is getting more run than you things have gone horribly wrong.

I do not blame Terry. I think he has hit the wall age wise. There are countless cases of guards in their 30's just waking up one day and not being able to play. Joe Dumars comes to mind as someone of similar size if not similar style game. In JET's defense I think the mind is willing but the body is not.

I do blame the Celtics front office. I think in particular this decision rests with Doc. I suspect Terry was a guy he really wanted and Ainge agreed.

I certainly hope we can move him in the offseason. Jordan Crawford does the same thing for 20% the cost.

[rutzan]

i was a big supporter of keeping ray and have been disappointed in jet so far...but...if you look at jet as a ray substitute...there is not much difference in their overall production...

jet
10.1 pts
.434 fg%
.372 3pt%
.870 ft%
2.0 rebs
2.5 assts

ray
11.1 pts
.454 fg%
.423 3pt%
.884 ft%
2.8 rebs
1.6 assts

[bobbyv]

i was a big supporter of keeping ray and have been disappointed in jet so far...but...if you look at jet as a ray substitute...there is not much difference in their overall production...

jet
10.1 pts
.434 fg%
.372 3pt%
.870 ft%
2.0 rebs
2.5 assts

ray
11.1 pts
.454 fg%
.423 3pt%
.884 ft%
2.8 rebs
1.6 assts

Well for starters, the field goal percentage jumps out at me. I have no doubt Ray would be giving us at least 15 points as a starter and making a bunch of open 3s that I've seen Terry miss all season. I liked Terry before, but he talks way too much for what he produces. I want him gone, asap. Give his minutes to someone else.

[connor]

Terry came in to play a completely different role than the one he has been thrust into. I agree that his play has been below what was original expected out of him, but I think thats a result of a combination of things.

Firstly he is old, 35 now, and I think time is catching up with him quicker than was originally anticipated.

Secondly, the majority of his offense came from pick and pop plays with the talented bigs they had in Dallas, the sort we are seriously lacking here in Boston. Its very hard for a player his age to translate his skills into an entirely different offense. Ray struggled originally when he was asked to run pick plays with the ball in his hands, just as Terry has struggled to adjust to spotting up coming off screens in Ray's old sets. It was a major miscalculation to think that Terry would be able to seamlessly make that transition at his age.

Lastly Terry's role was originally supposed to be as a spark off the bench and a consistent late game scorer to help stem the comebacks that we are so susceptible to. He struggled in this role early on because of his age and his inability to adjust to the system and once Rondo went down he was expected to play a much larger role that he's not capable of.

I wasn't a fan of the Terry signing from the start, but I think he will have the opportunity in the playoffs to show his worth, where he is supposed to be a difference maker. And I've not entirely given up on him. If Doc can find a way to use him in a similar capacity to what he did in Dallas he could turn things around. But if there is a deal out there i say we take it and cut our losses.

[StartOrien]

I was a big advocate of adding Terry because of his dribbling and distribution skills. I've been horribly dissappointed in what we've got out of him.
 
To me, what's been brutal about the Jet is the amount of really open looks he's been unable to convert.

Despite this, I hope they keep going with him b/c I don't see a better option than hoping he can get hot - we need more offense than Lee can provide, and I can't stand watching Jordan Crawford play. Easily my least favorite Celtic since Blount.

[SHAQATTACK]

i've been mostly letdown, but he's old and short too ,  so gee ,

I probably was unrealistic in my expectations.  Neither he or Allen , can play 30 minutes of all star ball anymore.


But.....that said.....the dude can still step out on the court and nail a 3 pointer at the buzzer  .

 

[PhoSita]

I think the team has underutilized Terry for most of his time here, but I also think he really benefited from playing next to Dirk, Chandler, Marion, and Kidd while he was in Dallas.  Those guys pressured the opposing defense and set picks and generally affected the game in a way that made things much easier for JET.  He's looked like a fish out of water here in Boston.

[Boris Badenov]

Celticsblog: where a slight and completely expected decline in a player's ability makes him a "staggering bust."

Terry is 35. One would naturally expect him to be worse than he was when he was 31. But, his numbers don't suggest at all that he's fallen off a cliff ability-wise.

First, Terry's shooting percentages are pretty close to his career numbers, and his numbers when he was 31-32. He's shooting .434/.372./.870 this year, and for his career he's .447/.379/.847.

Per-36 minutes his rebounds, assists, steals are slightly down, but not much.

The one number that jumps out is that even per-36 he's shooting and therefore scoring a lot less (13.5 this year vs. 18-20 in years past).

Interesting thing is that he's actually taking and making as many 3 pointers as he always has. So it really doesn't make any sense to call his performance in that area a disappointment.

The big decline is from 2-pointers, which he's taking far fewer of.

I think this means that he's just not able to get open for those little dribble and pull-up jumpers that he relied on earlier in his career. Nor is he flashing to open spots for mid-range shots as much. (Some of this might be how Doc is using him, too).

The other area of substantial decline, I'm guessing, is that in many years past he was one of the top "clutch" scorers in the league - on a par with Pierce.

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

But if he's declined there I would guess that's as much a function of minutes as anything.

But overall, I think his performance is about what you'd reasonably expect for someone on the downside of his career. To say that he it's a case of him "waking up one day and not being able to play" seems like a huge overstatement.

[Tr1boy]

You expect alot from Terry. He is 35 and being paid as a role player.

Even earlier in his days he was considered streaky and mostly performed well playing with one or two superstar level players.  But when you ask him to generate or lead the offense then you maybe disappointed.

Just wait for the playoffs. His clutch play will be more apparent

[StartOrien]

You expect alot from Terry. He is 35 and being paid as a role player.

Even earlier in his days he was considered streaky and mostly performed well playing with one or two superstar level players.  But when you ask him to generate or lead the offense then you maybe disappointed.

Just wait for the playoffs. His clutch play will be more apparent

At nearly 6 million dollars, he's being paid pretty handsomely for a guy coming off the bench. I mean, in the same division you've got JR Smith making 2.8 a season.

I don't see how anyone could see him as anything but a disappointment up until this point. He's played exceptionally well in all of one game. He's been unable to relieve any of the ball handling duties when we desperately need to do so. And has developed no real chemistry with anyone but Terrence Williams.

I would've thought by now we'd see some good pick and pop/roll with KG and Terry, but I think Terry's cooked.

[j804]

Hate to say it but he's cooked.

[Celtics4ever]

To qoute Bill Walton, " He is just horrible!"

[gar]

They knew what they were getting - someone to energize and solidify the bench. Terry has done more than that since he has had to help integrate three new players to a bench group that is building chemistry and buying into their roles. Ray would not be able (was not willing) to do this.

[CelticConcourse]

Celticsblog: where a slight and completely expected decline in a player's ability makes him a "staggering bust."

Terry is 35. One would naturally expect him to be worse than he was when he was 31. But, his numbers don't suggest at all that he's fallen off a cliff ability-wise.

First, Terry's shooting percentages are pretty close to his career numbers, and his numbers when he was 31-32. He's shooting .434/.372./.870 this year, and for his career he's .447/.379/.847.

Per-36 minutes his rebounds, assists, steals are slightly down, but not much.

The one number that jumps out is that even per-36 he's shooting and therefore scoring a lot less (13.5 this year vs. 18-20 in years past).

Interesting thing is that he's actually taking and making as many 3 pointers as he always has. So it really doesn't make any sense to call his performance in that area a disappointment.

The big decline is from 2-pointers, which he's taking far fewer of.

I think this means that he's just not able to get open for those little dribble and pull-up jumpers that he relied on earlier in his career. Nor is he flashing to open spots for mid-range shots as much. (Some of this might be how Doc is using him, too).

The other area of substantial decline, I'm guessing, is that in many years past he was one of the top "clutch" scorers in the league - on a par with Pierce.

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

But if he's declined there I would guess that's as much a function of minutes as anything.

But overall, I think his performance is about what you'd reasonably expect for someone on the downside of his career. To say that he it's a case of him "waking up one day and not being able to play" seems like a huge overstatement.

Saw this before, and totally believe it.

Nothing busty about JET at all.