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Plus a sign-in trade for any of this guys

Gustavo Ayon - Orlando Magic $1,875,000  Option in Prior Year/Qualifying Offer
Nikola Vucevic - Orlando Magic $2,751,260 Team Option
Emeka Okafor - Washington Wizards $14,487,500 Option in Prior Year
Anderson Varejao - Cleveland Cavaliers $9,704,545 Partial/Non-Guaranteed
Greg Monroe - Detroit Pistons $5,479,935 Qualifying Offer
Marcin Gortat   Phoenix Suns $7,727,280
DeMarcus Cousins - Sacramento Kings $6,519,907 Option in Prior Year/Qualifying Offer

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Only if he's allowed to bring that pickaxe with him to the games. Especially when we play the Heat and Lakers.
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Did you just put on the #34 jersey on him?

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How do you propose we sign and trade for any of these players


Plus a sign-in trade for any of this guys


Nikola Vucevic - Orlando Magic $2,751,260 Team Option
Emeka Okafor - Washington Wizards $14,487,500 Option in Prior Year
Anderson Varejao - Cleveland Cavaliers $9,704,545 Partial/Non-Guaranteed
Greg Monroe - Detroit Pistons $5,479,935 Qualifying Offer
Marcin Gortat   Phoenix Suns $7,727,280
DeMarcus Cousins - Sacramento Kings $6,519,907 Option in Prior Year/Qualifying Offer


Please provide specifics.
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I bet some team will give him the MLE. Too rich for my blood.

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Did you just put on the #34 jersey on him?

sorry just a mistake

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I bet some team will give him the MLE. Too rich for my blood.

i think he is a better upgrade of fab melo, i like this guy, than greg oden, with super major serious injury

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Oh look, a krook thread about Timofey Mozgov. I wonder where I have seen this before...
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Oh look, a krook thread about Timofey Mozgov. I wonder where I have seen this before...

we want this guy right? more useful than fab melo in d-league

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Oh look, a krook thread about Timofey Mozgov. I wonder where I have seen this before...

we want this guy right? more useful than fab melo in d-league
I just wonder whether you get tired of posting the same stuff over and over. When your previous half a dozen of threads about TM have died a glorious death, one would think any reasonable individual would get the hint that the conversation is pretty much a non-starter.

As for the guy himself, he's just as useless as Melo in the NBDL, unless you can really explain why anyone should pay 3 million for his 2 points, 2 rebounds, and 2 minutes per game. That's provided that he actually does cost 3 million, because I can't see a universe in which Denver will tender him a qualifying offer.
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Oh look, a krook thread about Timofey Mozgov. I wonder where I have seen this before...

we want this guy right? more useful than fab melo in d-league
I just wonder whether you get tired of posting the same stuff over and over. When your previous half a dozen of threads about TM have died a glorious death, one would think any reasonable individual would get the hint that the conversation is pretty much a non-starter.

As for the guy himself, he's just as useless as Melo in the NBDL, unless you can really explain why anyone should pay 3 million for his 2 points, 2 rebounds, and 2 minutes per game. That's provided that he actually does cost 3 million, because I can't see a universe in which Denver will tender him a qualifying offer.

because he does not have a playing time, give him a shot 20+ minutes see the difference, look at haddadi, given a minutes, i don't know if its luck but man at least this guy can give us 10 points a game, not sure on your 2 points with george karl having koufos and mcgee and randolph, maybe with a defensive coach playing beside kg he can improved, but on fab melo is raw player someone like meyers leonard or maybe pekovic? but by giving 20 minutes on melo, i don't think good things will happen

and 3 million is not bad, i saw him play in olympics
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haddadi
fesenko
ajinca
leonard
melo
thabeet

i think he has the most potential to improved and still young

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unless you can really explain why anyone should pay 3 million for his 2 points, 2 rebounds, and 2 minutes per game. That's provided that he actually does cost 3 million, because I can't see a universe in which Denver will tender him a qualifying offer.

It would be easy for another team to believe that George Karl is bad at allocating minutes and that Mozgov would do well if given more minutes.

Denver should consider giving him a qualifying offer if the team thinks Mozgov could be a trade asset.  That's why Orlando matched a huge offer sheet for Marcin Gortat from the Mavericks in 2009 when the Polish Hammer was coming off of a season where he scored 3.8 points in 12.6 minutes per game, giving him starter money to back up Dwight Howard.

Mozgov wants to play.  I suspect that, assuming the money is close, he will choose to play for the team that gives him the best opportunity to win playing time and a starting job.  If Garnett is still the center for the Celtics, I doubt Boston will be high on the list for Mozgov.
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Oh look, a krook thread about Timofey Mozgov. I wonder where I have seen this before...

we want this guy right? more useful than fab melo in d-league
I just wonder whether you get tired of posting the same stuff over and over. When your previous half a dozen of threads about TM have died a glorious death, one would think any reasonable individual would get the hint that the conversation is pretty much a non-starter.

As for the guy himself, he's just as useless as Melo in the NBDL, unless you can really explain why anyone should pay 3 million for his 2 points, 2 rebounds, and 2 minutes per game. That's provided that he actually does cost 3 million, because I can't see a universe in which Denver will tender him a qualifying offer.

because he does not have a playing time, give him a shot 20+ minutes see the difference, look at haddadi, given a minutes, i don't know if its luck but man at least this guy can give us 10 points a game, not sure on your 2 points with george karl having koufos and mcgee and randolph, maybe with a defensive coach playing beside kg he can improved, but on fab melo is raw player someone like meyers leonard or maybe pekovic? but by giving 20 minutes on melo, i don't think good things will happen

and 3 million is not bad, i saw him play in olympics
on this guys
haddadi
fesenko
ajinca
leonard
melo
thabeet

i think he has the most potential to improved and still young
Yes, and there is a reason why Haddadi, Mozgov, Fesenko, and other guys don't get playing times (hint: the reason is not that their coaches don't like really, really, big guys).

One thing you have to realize is that NBA is not the Olympics. You can't play center in the NBA by never leaving the restricted area, and goaltending every shot that comes close to you. You have to move laterally, close space, blitz, challenge jump shooters -- and on top of that, rebound and block shots, if possible. That's the reason why half of the foreign centers just never pan out in the NBA.

Also, Mozgov will be 27 this summer. He is what he is at this stage of his career.
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That's the reason why half of the foreign centers just never pan out in the NBA.

What percentage of American centers just never pan out in the NBA?
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