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My previous attempt at this got eaten by forum slowness, but basically, I am wondering if KG being out will give White and/or Randolph a shot at moving ahead of Wilcox in the rotation.

Because, let's face it, Bass is way better than Wilcox.  It's Wilcox who is the weak link in the frontcourt rotation.  For White/Randolph to work their way into the rotation, they're going to have to take minutes from Wilcox, not Bass.

Is it possible for Wilcox go down in Doc's eyes so that he racks up a couple of "DNP - Coach's Decision" in a playoff series?
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My previous attempt at this got eaten by forum slowness, but basically, I am wondering if KG being out will give White and/or Randolph a shot at moving ahead of Wilcox in the rotation.

Because, let's face it, Bass is way better than Wilcox.  It's Wilcox who is the weak link in the frontcourt rotation.  For White/Randolph to work their way into the rotation, they're going to have to take minutes from Wilcox, not Bass.

Is it possible for Wilcox go down in Doc's eyes so that he racks up a couple of "DNP - Coach's Decision" in a playoff series?

I disagree that Bass is way better than Wilcox—in some ways, such as running the floor and finishing, Wilcox is much better.

As for the question in your thread title: I think Doc's (somewhat-unwarranted) displeasure with Wilcox is such that Doc would probably play Mark Blount ahead of Wilcox at this point.
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Unfortunately, the whole premise here is summed up thusly:

If Wilcox plays poorly enough, even when there is only one other healthy person ahead of him on the depth chart, could he possibly lose minutes to a players that couldn't make a team in October and went on to play in the Chinese Leagues?

That would mean having to play pretty poorly, given how injured this team is. With only Bass, Wilcox, Randolph, White and Melo healthy, I don't think anyone has to worry about some of these end of the bench scrubs getting playing time.

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Unfortunately, the whole premise here is summed up thusly:

If Wilcox plays poorly enough, even when there is only one other healthy person ahead of him on the depth chart, could he possibly lose minutes to a players that couldn't make a team in October and went on to play in the Chinese Leagues?

That would mean having to play pretty poorly, given how injured this team is. With only Bass, Wilcox, Randolph, White and Melo healthy, I don't think anyone has to worry about some of these end of the bench scrubs getting playing time.

I dunno.  Doc could play Bass and Green for 30 minutes each at the 5 and the 4 (painful as that sounds), give Wilcox 18, and then neither White nor Randolph has to break into double digits in playing time.

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Unfortunately, the whole premise here is summed up thusly:

If Wilcox plays poorly enough, even when there is only one other healthy person ahead of him on the depth chart, could he possibly lose minutes to a players that couldn't make a team in October and went on to play in the Chinese Leagues?

That would mean having to play pretty poorly, given how injured this team is. With only Bass, Wilcox, Randolph, White and Melo healthy, I don't think anyone has to worry about some of these end of the bench scrubs getting playing time.

I dunno.  Doc could play Bass and Green for 30 minutes each at the 5 and the 4 (painful as that sounds), give Wilcox 18, and then neither White nor Randolph has to break into double digits in playing time.

But then Pierce would have to play 40+ minutes as SF.  No, I am quite sure that while KG is out, White and Randolph will get their shot.

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I'm not sure why anyone would want to see these guys on the floor. If they are out there, its a problem. The only way I see it is if Doc believes he has a match up he can exploit, or just needs some bodies/fouls. If that's the case, I could see White sneaking in there, but there's a reason they haven't played.

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No. Bass, Wilcox will be playing for now. Green at times.

One of the Chinese-duo will have a 20minute stint in one game, I guarantee. But the game after, they'll be BENCHED ;)
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Unfortunately, the whole premise here is summed up thusly:

If Wilcox plays poorly enough, even when there is only one other healthy person ahead of him on the depth chart, could he possibly lose minutes to a players that couldn't make a team in October and went on to play in the Chinese Leagues?

I thought my premise was: Can Randolph or White play better than Wilcox has been playing so far?  If they demonstrate it on the court while KG is out, will Doc notice?
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Unfortunately, the whole premise here is summed up thusly:

If Wilcox plays poorly enough, even when there is only one other healthy person ahead of him on the depth chart, could he possibly lose minutes to a players that couldn't make a team in October and went on to play in the Chinese Leagues?

I thought my premise was: Can Randolph or White play better than Wilcox has been playing so far?  If they demonstrate it on the court while KG is out, will Doc notice?

I dislike how fans think everything has to be shown on the court. If the rotation ever changes, it'll be becaues Doc sees them performing well in practice. That's where it really counts. Not on the court.
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I'm okay with the idea that they need to show it in practice before playing time instead of making a change just because you're desperate to see different results.

But once you do get that playing time, how you play in real game time is one factor in getting more playing time.  Unlike how some posters in this forum think, I think that making buckets is sometimes not enough justification to get players that additional playing time.
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My previous attempt at this got eaten by forum slowness, but basically, I am wondering if KG being out will give White and/or Randolph a shot at moving ahead of Wilcox in the rotation.

Because, let's face it, Bass is way better than Wilcox.  It's Wilcox who is the weak link in the frontcourt rotation.  For White/Randolph to work their way into the rotation, they're going to have to take minutes from Wilcox, not Bass.

Is it possible for Wilcox go down in Doc's eyes so that he racks up a couple of "DNP - Coach's Decision" in a playoff series?


I like Chris Wilcox, and don't think it's likely that either White or Randolph move ahead of him in the rotation, but I do think it's entirely possible. I see that as a good thing on all levels.  It gives all three of those guys a little extra something to play for.

I think it is good for the team if Chris Wilcox goes into every practice and game thinking that he could lose his spot in the rotation, and if Shav Randolph and DJ White go in thinking they might have an opportunity to earn a spot in that rotation. 
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My previous attempt at this got eaten by forum slowness, but basically, I am wondering if KG being out will give White and/or Randolph a shot at moving ahead of Wilcox in the rotation.

Because, let's face it, Bass is way better than Wilcox.  It's Wilcox who is the weak link in the frontcourt rotation.  For White/Randolph to work their way into the rotation, they're going to have to take minutes from Wilcox, not Bass.

Is it possible for Wilcox go down in Doc's eyes so that he racks up a couple of "DNP - Coach's Decision" in a playoff series?


I like Chris Wilcox, and don't think it's likely that either White or Randolph move ahead of him in the rotation, but I do think it's entirely possible. I see that as a good thing on all levels.  It gives all three of those guys a little extra something to play for.

I think it is good for the team if Chris Wilcox goes into every practice and game thinking that he could lose his spot in the rotation, and if Shav Randolph and DJ White go in thinking they might have an opportunity to earn a spot in that rotation.

at this moment, i can see randolph doing more given a limitted minutes than wilcox, on bass, he can score but he allow opponents to score too, he can't clogged the middle which white can do and also some blocks shots, i'll give this to a shot, 1st miami with randolph and white really really helpful

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Competition is always good. Ryan Hollins stepped up when we signed Sean Williams. Let's see some friendly competition!
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I don't know why people are so down on Wilcox. I want to see him play more, not less.

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Why are people still saying they are only two guys that didn't get picked up for half a season by any other teams? Now I don't know for sure (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)...

they didn't get picked up during preseason by any team BUT they were under CONTRACT in China for half the season so they COULD NOT have been picked up if someone did want them! Both of their seasons ended (their contracts) right around the time we picked them up!

You guys are saying it like they were sitting at home waiting for a call. It doesn't work that way!

Now, if you're talking about preseason, then yea, no one wanted them so they took their talents to China!
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