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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 06:01:18 PM »

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No reason in the World why Green can't be better than Pierce.

I have a hard time envisioning Green leading the league in points scored (Pierce, 2001-02), or cracking the top 20 all-time scoring list.
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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 06:06:30 PM »

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No reason in the World why Green can be better than Pierce.

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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 06:16:26 PM »

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Slightly off-topic, but I was shocked to see that Jeff had 43 with NINE MINUTES left in that game...

Wow...did Doc sit him on the bench for rest or something..WOW.

But as for the topic - I don't know what Jeff's ceiling is, but did he carry BOS in that game...and was KEY for us in the Rondo-Less game.

Man is not afraid of the Big Time...hopefully, he can/will do this in the post-season. If he does, then I think he could very well be on his way to being a part of BOS's next generation of stars - EASILY.

He is special....just give him time.

Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 06:35:42 PM »

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Even I don't think he's the next Pierce. But he can be the next Carmelo. (and that's very, very hard... still don't expect nearly that)
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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 06:39:26 PM »

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Even I don't think he's the next Pierce. But he can be the next Carmelo. (and that's very, very hard... still don't expect nearly that)

He will certainly be better than Melo, in that case...Jeff plays good defense at this point of his time with BOS...and he's getting better.

Nothing against Melo, because I really like his game, but Jeff is already a good defender.

Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2013, 06:42:47 PM »

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Even I don't think he's the next Pierce. But he can be the next Carmelo. (and that's very, very hard... still don't expect nearly that)

He will certainly be better than Melo, in that case...Jeff plays good defense at this point of his time with BOS...and he's getting better.

Nothing against Melo, because I really like his game, but Jeff is already a good defender.

I may be the biggest Jeff Green fan around but I think there's no way you can say "he will certainly be better than Melo."

Melo is one of the best NBA players in the league, a guaranteed top 15 while Jeff Green is still a bench player. Carmelo Anthony is arguably the league's best scorer and an Olympic champion, making tons of money. He's better at Jeff everywhere on offense and has the experience.

I think it'll be pretty tough for Jeff to ever come close to being as good as Melo. Everybody will put Carmelo as a top 5 SF while nobody will dare talk about him in that conversation. Carmelo has been an All-Star for years, Jeff isn't even close. Jeff is faaaaaar from Melo. I can hope though.

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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2013, 06:51:48 PM »

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Even I don't think he's the next Pierce. But he can be the next Carmelo. (and that's very, very hard... still don't expect nearly that)

He will certainly be better than Melo, in that case...Jeff plays good defense at this point of his time with BOS...and he's getting better.

Nothing against Melo, because I really like his game, but Jeff is already a good defender.

I may be the biggest Jeff Green fan around but I think there's no way you can say "he will certainly be better than Melo."

Melo is one of the best NBA players in the league, a guaranteed top 15 while Jeff Green is still a bench player. Carmelo Anthony is arguably the league's best scorer and an Olympic champion, making tons of money. He's better at Jeff everywhere on offense and has the experience.

I think it'll be pretty tough for Jeff to ever come close to being as good as Melo. Everybody will put Carmelo as a top 5 SF while nobody will dare talk about him in that conversation. Carmelo has been an All-Star for years, Jeff isn't even close. Jeff is faaaaaar from Melo. I can hope though.

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There's also the fact that Green and 'Melo are basically the same age (26 and 28, respectively).
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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2013, 06:54:09 PM »

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Even I don't think he's the next Pierce. But he can be the next Carmelo. (and that's very, very hard... still don't expect nearly that)

He will certainly be better than Melo, in that case...Jeff plays good defense at this point of his time with BOS...and he's getting better.

Nothing against Melo, because I really like his game, but Jeff is already a good defender.
I've heard there is this thing called rebounding.  Green is one of the worst in the league.  One thing about Green is that he probably won't shoot his team out of a game as Carmelo is prone to do.

Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2013, 06:56:14 PM »

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I hope that we can just expect Jeff Green to be hard-working and consistent.  If he does these things, I will be happy whether that means 12PPG or 20PPG.  He earns a salary at present that should produce expectation of decent numbers as a forward.  Expecting Carmelo-type production is both a pipedream and unfair. 

I think there is a bit of Reggie Lewis in him.  I think that would be a great ceiling -- versatile scorer, athletic, can play solid D when he puts his mind to it.  Borderline all-star would be a great return on the investment.  He should not be thought of as a guy to lead the team, but as a productive 3rd or 4th option. To be honest, Reggie Lewis was not going to win any titles as the top or second player (my opinion of course).

Too bad (for the umpteenth time) Rondo and Sully aren't healthy.  With Green's improvement, this team would be very much in the mix this year.

Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2013, 06:58:28 PM »

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Even I don't think he's the next Pierce. But he can be the next Carmelo. (and that's very, very hard... still don't expect nearly that)

He will certainly be better than Melo, in that case...Jeff plays good defense at this point of his time with BOS...and he's getting better.

Nothing against Melo, because I really like his game, but Jeff is already a good defender.
I've heard there is this thing called rebounding.  Green is one of the worst in the league.  One thing about Green is that he probably won't shoot his team out of a game as Carmelo is prone to do.

That's about as false as it gets
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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2013, 07:02:27 PM »

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It is unfair.

While I think that potentially, when Paul retires and he starts as our SF, he can put on numbers like 18-20 ppg/4-5 rebounds on maybe 50% shooting at best or 42% at worse.

I dont see him being able to carry the team everyday like Paul did and is still doing. He will be a major contributor but he can't be the face of the franchise, which is unfair for Green, putting him in that much pressure.
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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2013, 07:05:08 PM »

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To the Jeff Green detractors...yes he may not rebound well RIGHT NOW, but give him time...

Time, people...

We cannot honestly say WHAT his ceiling is...man played out of position in OKC...was saved (Thank God) from passing away by our alert medical staff...is still recovering from his surgery and getting his confidence back.

With these flashes of brilliance, I'm very optimistic about his future. He is just approaching his prime.

What I hope doesn't happen is that the man falls into the "Larry Bird - Antoine Walker" scenario....I remember when Larry moved on, and Antoine HAD to be the next "Star" for BOS....some of us expected that.....right?

Antoine Walker could not POSSIBLY fill Bird's shoes, but the man did his best...Tommy even loved him.

There will certainly NOT be another Paul Pierce, but let's not prematurely cap Jeff Green's game ALREADY...

Did ANYONE see 43 pts in basically 3 qtrs coming in that MIA game?

Jeff Green is special...I'm telling you.

Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2013, 07:08:40 PM »

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i have to believe that you all are just never satisfied with Jeff.

I mean to call the guy a one trick pony...cuz he favors his right side when he drives?

cool.

so take away the 3s, the post game, he's a great passer (as on-point passes) and his ability to be aggressive.

goodness. he's just not good.

but let's praise the guy who's go-to is the step back elbow jumper.

fa sho!!

Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2013, 07:10:14 PM »

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To the Jeff Green detractors...yes he may not rebound well RIGHT NOW, but give him time...

Time, people...

We cannot honestly say WHAT his ceiling is...man played out of position in OKC...was saved (Thank God) from passing away by our alert medical staff...is still recovering from his surgery and getting his confidence back.

With these flashes of brilliance, I'm very optimistic about his future. He is just approaching his prime.

What I hope doesn't happen is that the man falls into the "Larry Bird - Antoine Walker" scenario....I remember when Larry moved on, and Antoine HAD to be the next "Star" for BOS....some of us expected that.....right?

Antoine Walker could not POSSIBLY fill Bird's shoes, but the man did his best...Tommy even loved him.

There will certainly NOT be another Paul Pierce, but let's not prematurely cap Jeff Green's game ALREADY...

Did ANYONE see 43 pts in basically 3 qtrs coming in that MIA game?

Jeff Green is special...I'm telling you.

Maybe not in the Miami game, but it was bound to come sometime this season. I expected a superb defensive effort and a decent offensive side dish. I did expect him to have a 40-point game sometime this season.

And yes, he's special and can be a star. A top-3 SF in the league, at the very-best. A 15/5 guy at worst. This guy was a good gamble, and I don't know what a lot of CB posters were saying when they said Jeff was a waste of money. But, we have three more years to develop him.

This could be a heist (just like we literally stole Rondo for cheap) Now that I think about it, the Rondo and Green salaries are very similar...

And for the record, I see Jeff Green being a top 5 SF in this league in 2 years, something almost nobody agreed with in the earlier part of this season. I'm glad he's changing people's minds. What a man.
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Re: Danny Ainge: Unfair' to expect Jeff Green to be next Paul Pierce
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2013, 07:11:01 PM »

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Jeff Green is only a slightly above average scorer and average to below average at everything else. How the hell is his best case scenario Carmelo Anthony? IMO, the best you can expect from Jeff Green is an efficient 18/7/2 a game with solid defense if he does that I'm happy. Jeff right now is one dimensional he needs to improve on the non-scoring parts of his game.