John Wall wants max contract.

[Tr1boy]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

[Lord of Mikawa]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

The failure of that team is not John Wall's fault.

[CelticConcourse]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

Kevin Garnett topped 50.2% FG% just once in his twelve seasons at Minnesota. Since coming to Boston, he's topped that number all five years. When you're the best player on a team by far, you have to take bad shots.

[Atzar]

In my opinion, average point guards with some untapped upside don't deserve the max.  That's almost absurd.

[GreenEnvy]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

Kevin Garnett topped 50.2% FG% just once in his twelve seasons at Minnesota. Since coming to Boston, he's topped that number all five years. When you're the best player on a team by far, you have to take bad shots.

 

KG shot below 47% once in his entire career. Wall's career high is 42.3%. 


Worst comparison ever?

[Donoghus]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

Kevin Garnett topped 50.2% FG% just once in his twelve seasons at Minnesota. Since coming to Boston, he's topped that number all five years. When you're the best player on a team by far, you have to take bad shots.

 

KG shot below 47% once in his entire career. Wall's career high is 42.3%. 


Worst comparison ever?

Yeah, not the best comparison there.

KG once shot 46% (his worst) while Wall hasn't even broke 43% in his best year.

You're also comparing a guard with a big man.  The only thing they have in common was playing for some crappy teams.

[ejk3489]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

Kevin Garnett topped 50.2% FG% just once in his twelve seasons at Minnesota. Since coming to Boston, he's topped that number all five years. When you're the best player on a team by far, you have to take bad shots.

You can't seriously be comparing one of the best jump shooting big man ever to a point guard whose career FG% is .416.

[scaryjerry]

Wall has been awful

Can see his point? Well duh...who doesn't want a max contract

Has been awful? You'll need to elaborate for me to understand where you're coming from. From the games I've watched, he's pretty dominant against opposing PGs.

yep he's been awful with the expectations he had coming in, sorry. Clearly you're a fan of his, great. Don't care what numbers he's put up in certain stretches of his career...he was suppose to be and a max player is suppose to be a franchise changer.....he's been and continues to be nothing close to that

[Brendan]

I want world peace

I think you mean whirled peas.

[BballTim]

You gotta do it.

I'd trade the remaining years on Rondo's contract for an extended John Wall without much hesitation.

  Nothing like getting to the front of the line to downgrade our chances of winning.

Entering rebuilding you take the 22 year old with superstar potential over the 27 year old who is an All-Star.

  That's assuming a full rebuild, and superstar potential is awfully hopeful.

[PhoSita]

You gotta do it.

I'd trade the remaining years on Rondo's contract for an extended John Wall without much hesitation.

  Nothing like getting to the front of the line to downgrade our chances of winning.

Entering rebuilding you take the 22 year old with superstar potential over the 27 year old who is an All-Star.

  That's assuming a full rebuild, and superstar potential is awfully hopeful.

The only thing that would really give me pause with John Wall is his issues with injuries.  Otherwise, I think he has tons of talent and has shown enough dedication and work ethic despite playing for one of the three or four worst run franchises in the league and having complete morons for teammates.  I think trading for Wall would actually be a less risky move than trading Rondo for Cousins, even though Wall is a guard rather than a center.

Trading Rondo for Wall would be an immediate downgrade and would represent a very large risk.  But the reward would be worth it.  I'd put it on the same level as Philly trading Iguodala for Bynum. 

As Bill Simmons said in a recent column, when you're given the chance to flip the "franchise player coin," you have to do it even if there's a 50% chance it comes up tails and you're screwed.

We'll be entering a rebuild once Pierce and Garnett retire.  It doesn't have to be a "full" rebuild a la tank for picks etc, but the half-way rebuild would mean trying to build a contender around Rondo / Bradley / Green / Sullinger, or trade the same for a veteran star.

[wdleehi]

He should not be getting 12 million a year. 


1)  He hasn't had the impact on his team a 12 million a year player should have.  Yes his teams have been awful.

2)  He hasn't shown any real growth on offense. 




He is one of the many good not great PG in the NBA.  And as we have seen (according to the rumors about Rondo) pass first PGs are not exactly getting that type interest around the league. 


I am sure he is worth that 8-10 million dollar range if there is a number 1 scoring star on the team.

[celticsleyte]

You gotta do it.

I'd trade the remaining years on Rondo's contract for an extended John Wall without much hesitation.

  Nothing like getting to the front of the line to downgrade our chances of winning.

Entering rebuilding you take the 22 year old with superstar potential over the 27 year old who is an All-Star.

  That's assuming a full rebuild, and superstar potential is awfully hopeful.

The only thing that would really give me pause with John Wall is his issues with injuries.  Otherwise, I think he has tons of talent and has shown enough dedication and work ethic despite playing for one of the three or four worst run franchises in the league and having complete morons for teammates.  I think trading for Wall would actually be a less risky move than trading Rondo for Cousins, even though Wall is a guard rather than a center.

Trading Rondo for Wall would be an immediate downgrade and would represent a very large risk.  But the reward would be worth it.  I'd put it on the same level as Philly trading Iguodala for Bynum. 

As Bill Simmons said in a recent column, when you're given the chance to flip the "franchise player coin," you have to do it even if there's a 50% chance it comes up tails and you're screwed.

We'll be entering a rebuild once Pierce and Garnett retire.  It doesn't have to be a "full" rebuild a la tank for picks etc, but the half-way rebuild would mean trying to build a contender around Rondo / Bradley / Green / Sullinger, or trade the same for a veteran star.

I rather rebuild around Rondo than Wall.  Rondo is still improving and has plenty of years of great basketball left in him and has been around winning.   I think the mistake teams make in rebuilding is going too young.  We have enough young guys and will continue to draft more of them we need to keep our good players who are in their primes not jettison them for more youth.

[RebusRankin]

I too would like a max contract.

I know. Really. Get in line John

I want one too. I may have to hold out from Celticsblog or demand a trade if my demands are not met.

[CelticConcourse]

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

Kevin Garnett topped 50.2% FG% just once in his twelve seasons at Minnesota. Since coming to Boston, he's topped that number all five years. When you're the best player on a team by far, you have to take bad shots.

 

KG shot below 47% once in his entire career. Wall's career high is 42.3%. 


Worst comparison ever?

Yeah, not the best comparison there.

KG once shot 46% (his worst) while Wall hasn't even broke 43% in his best year.

You're also comparing a guard with a big man.  The only thing they have in common was playing for some crappy teams.

what an idiot. Has done nothing to prove he deserves max. Tired of these young kids who think they deserve the world.

AB is twice the player John Wall is and AB is not worth max

How has he done nothing?? EXPLAIN please. He's been wrecking a lot of PGs and is by no means an "idiot"

the one who is doing most of the wrecking is Beal. Wall is a classic tweener who is still madly inconsistent in the league. Look at his shooting percentage, at 414 that is horrendous for a guy that wants max.

Also the team has gone nowhere since he has been drafted. No progress.

Kevin Garnett topped 50.2% FG% just once in his twelve seasons at Minnesota. Since coming to Boston, he's topped that number all five years. When you're the best player on a team by far, you have to take bad shots.

You can't seriously be comparing one of the best jump shooting big man ever to a point guard whose career FG% is .416.

I'm saying: KG would not be seen as one of the best jump shooting big men ever, if he played his whole career as a star in Minnesota. His FG% would have been lower than it "should have been" because he had to take a higher quantity of shots. When you're a star on a team, with no one nearly as good as you, you are expected to shoot lots and lots of shots.

The same goes for Wall. He's the best player by far on the Wizards' squad. He would likely have a higher FG% if he took less shots (he's not that inefficient), so the FG% is skewed in this case. Sure, he doesn't average 70% but he wouldn't average 41% either (if he had a better supporting cast).

John Wall isn't a bust, and is worth an $11 million contract probably. He's one of the best young PGs out there (with Lillard, Irving) and Washington would be silly not to take a risk with him. What star wants to sign in Washington D.C.?  This is the Wizs' only chance at a star and they'd be silly not to take advantage of it. $11mil could be a steal (who knows?). Lock him and Beal up and you can make the playoffs, at least.