D.J. WHITE 3 Minutes = 2 Deffensive Rebounds And 2 Blocks (More Minutes?)

[danglertx]

You don't have to shoot some great percentage from the field or line to be better than Bass.  You just need to be able to pick up a lose ball.  Stay in front of your man and occasionally contest a shot.

Bass is horrible.  Not just last night, but every night.  He doesn't hustle, his defense is horrendous, and he doesn't pass.  DJ White can be a terrible NBA player and still be better than Bass. 

For spring break next week I am taking my family to the lake house for some fishing in East Texas.  I am taking a bench with me.  If I catch a bass I am going to sit it on the bench for 48 minutes and then throw it back.

[Celtics18]

Should We Start D.J. WHITE Over Brandon Bass?

Nope. I'd prefer to keep winning games.

We are not the Bobcats. This is not the year to tank. Maybe when KG and pierce retire/get traded we can start playing hacks like DJ white significant minutes in order to get higher in the lottery.

Brandon ain't great, but he isn't that bad.

-18 last night

One night doesn't say everything

No, but when watching the games, I usually track it. And Bass almost always leads this team in the minus category.

You haven't been doing a very good job of tracking it.  I just checked the box scores for the games played this season, and Brandon Bass had the worst plus/minus on the team in 16 of the 60 games played thus far.  That may be more than his share, but it's a fairly loose interpretation of the phrase "almost always."

[Chief]

If we had a real 4 (Sully) we'd be really dangerous. Bass is garbage. Point. Period. End of discussion. He is THE weakest link on this squad. DJ is not the answer. Playing Jeff at the 4 spot the majority of the time is our only hope right now. Unfortunately,Doc is going to give Bass major minutes. I just hope he realizes that we are best served with his Bass on the Bench!

Last night was the real test with Jeff at the 4. Indiana has one of the biggest front lines in the league. I thought he played well and the team looked great when he was at the 4.

[Celtics18]

If we had a real 4 (Sully) we'd be really dangerous. Bass is garbage. Point. Period. End of discussion. He is THE weakest link on this squad. DJ is not the answer. Playing Jeff at the 4 spot the majority of the time is our only hope right now. Unfortunately,Doc is going to give Bass major minutes. I just hope he realizes that we are best served with his Bass on the Bench!

Last night was the real test with Jeff at the 4. Indiana has one of the biggest front lines in the league. I thought he played well and the team looked great when he was at the 4.

I was very impressed with the way Jeff battled against David West.  I was worried that he'd get beaten up down low.  It was nice to see him hold his own.

[Chief]

Should We Start D.J. WHITE Over Brandon Bass?

Nope. I'd prefer to keep winning games.

We are not the Bobcats. This is not the year to tank. Maybe when KG and pierce retire/get traded we can start playing hacks like DJ white significant minutes in order to get higher in the lottery.

Brandon ain't great, but he isn't that bad.

-18 last night

One night doesn't say everything

No, but when watching the games, I usually track it. And Bass almost always leads this team in the minus category.

You haven't been doing a very good job of tracking it.  I just checked the box scores for the games played this season, and Brandon Bass had the worst plus/minus on the team in 16 of the 60 games played thus far.  That may be more than his share, but it's a fairly loose interpretation of the phrase "almost always."

"almost" always. But sometimes he just has 6 point and 4 rebounds in 32+ minutes but a great +/-.

[Chief]

If we had a real 4 (Sully) we'd be really dangerous. Bass is garbage. Point. Period. End of discussion. He is THE weakest link on this squad. DJ is not the answer. Playing Jeff at the 4 spot the majority of the time is our only hope right now. Unfortunately,Doc is going to give Bass major minutes. I just hope he realizes that we are best served with his Bass on the Bench!

Last night was the real test with Jeff at the 4. Indiana has one of the biggest front lines in the league. I thought he played well and the team looked great when he was at the 4.

I was very impressed with the way Jeff battled against David West.  I was worried that he'd get beaten up down low.  It was nice to see him hold his own.

I felt the same. TP!!

[Roy H.]

Should We Start D.J. WHITE Over Brandon Bass?
Or Play Beside Green, Backing-Up Green

How does a guy make two FGs and three FTs and only have four points?  Did you paste together two box scores?

Anyway, no, White shouldn't start, or be in the rotation.  He's there for mop-up / emergency duty.

[Celtics18]

Should We Start D.J. WHITE Over Brandon Bass?

Nope. I'd prefer to keep winning games.

We are not the Bobcats. This is not the year to tank. Maybe when KG and pierce retire/get traded we can start playing hacks like DJ white significant minutes in order to get higher in the lottery.

Brandon ain't great, but he isn't that bad.

-18 last night

One night doesn't say everything

No, but when watching the games, I usually track it. And Bass almost always leads this team in the minus category.

You haven't been doing a very good job of tracking it.  I just checked the box scores for the games played this season, and Brandon Bass had the worst plus/minus on the team in 16 of the 60 games played thus far.  That may be more than his share, but it's a fairly loose interpretation of the phrase "almost always."

"almost" always. But sometimes he just has 6 point and 4 rebounds in 32+ minutes but a great +/-.

Sorry.  Just over 25% of the time doesn't equal "almost always."  I don't know if there's a definitive demarcation for what constitutes "almost always," but I'd say it has to be at the very least more than half the time. 

[Tr1boy]

Should We Start D.J. WHITE Over Brandon Bass?

Nope. I'd prefer to keep winning games.

We are not the Bobcats. This is not the year to tank. Maybe when KG and pierce retire/get traded we can start playing hacks like DJ white significant minutes in order to get higher in the lottery.

Brandon ain't great, but he isn't that bad.

-18 last night

LoL ... I knew somebody would find that stat.....

Bass is playing Bazz Backwards ........he is getting worse instead of better......

Bass = tweener, the bad label

He is like 6'8 that is not good in rebounding, blocking shots, over the rim dunks like a pf. No handles, mediocre passing and needs to be super wide open to hit a 2 pt jump shot , missing qualities of a decent sf. He has decent strength and quickness and that's it.

I was struggling to digest the reason why danny signed him long term and for freaking 5 million a year. The guy is worth like 2 or 3 million at best.

When kg is gone, this guy can't be your starter with Sully. Either coming from the bench or please trade/amnesty him

[Smitty77]

How many of you have seen DJ play in person?  I saw him several times last year in Charlotte and he is SOLID!!  Not outstanding.  Not an athletic freak.  But, very smart!!  He should be getting 15 minutes per game minimum IMHO as well hopefully try to manage KG's and PP's minutes.

Smitty77

[LooseCannon]

Bass = tweener, the bad label

He is like 6'8 that is not good in rebounding, blocking shots, over the rim dunks like a pf. No handles, mediocre passing and needs to be super wide open to hit a 2 pt jump shot , missing qualities of a decent sf. He has decent strength and quickness and that's it.

I wouldn't say Bass is a tweener.  That suggests he either has two positions where he is an imperfect fit or zero positions because he fits neither.  Bass is a power forward, an undersized power forward, but only a power forward.

I think being multi-positional is a trait that is desirable in bench players, so I think Bass is suited to being a guy who starts but does not finish games due to his flaws, sort of like how Kendrick Perkins was used during his tenure in Boston.

[Evantime34]

Bass = tweener, the bad label

He is like 6'8 that is not good in rebounding, blocking shots, over the rim dunks like a pf. No handles, mediocre passing and needs to be super wide open to hit a 2 pt jump shot , missing qualities of a decent sf. He has decent strength and quickness and that's it.

I wouldn't say Bass is a tweener.  That suggests he either has two positions where he is an imperfect fit or zero positions because he fits neither.  Bass is a power forward, an undersized power forward, but only a power forward.

I think being multi-positional is a trait that is desirable in bench players, so I think Bass is suited to being a guy who starts but does not finish games due to his flaws, sort of like how Kendrick Perkins was used during his tenure in Boston.

Offensively he is a small forward though. How many post touches has he had recently? All his offense comes from jump shots or face up drives, that sounds like a small forward's offensive repetoir to me.

[Redz]

White definitely didn't look lost out there. He was generally in the right places and ran the floor hard. Bass seems to play better when there is someone pushing him for minutes.  Maybe White can put a sparkplug under Bass's butt because he definitely do more than he's been doing.

[jdz101]

Should We Start D.J. WHITE Over Brandon Bass?

Nope. I'd prefer to keep winning games.

We are not the Bobcats. This is not the year to tank. Maybe when KG and pierce retire/get traded we can start playing hacks like DJ white significant minutes in order to get higher in the lottery.

Brandon ain't great, but he isn't that bad.

No, he is that bad. That being said, I’m far from convinced, after four minutes of play, that DJ White should supplant Bass in the starting five. I would love for Doc to extend White’s minutes on Friday, however.

I'd hate to burst your bubble, but DJ white is worse than Brandon Bass.

Let that sink in for a while, be sick all over yourself, then discuss another power forward option for the celtics.

I would say smallball with green at the 4 is your least disgusting proposition.

That’s a curious response.  Bit of a straw man argument, don’t you think?   You see, I never opined that White was the superior player.  He hasn't proven himself as a Celtic yet. Maybe he’ll perform better than Bass, or maybe, somehow, he’ll perform worse.  I think Clover has it right, give the guy some minutes, and see what he does.

I said DJ White is worse than bass, then continued to say Bass hasn't been great but he isnt THAT bad. (Replaced by DJ White bad.)

You then said bass actually is that bad but DJ white shouldn't replace him. (wut?)

So you disagreed with me, then half-agreed with me, then said I had a straw-man argument, then settled on the fence of giving white SOME minutes.

Mind blown.

[bfrombleacher]

We can't start Wilcox or Green because we'd have no back up center or SF. Wish Sully were still here.

White apparently has had some untimely injuries that has hindered his career (per a comment on a Celtics Life article and on DraftExpress).

Being on the Bobcats and getting so little attention makes it hard to gauge how good he is...but I've been reading some pretty positive things about him.

Perhaps he's an upside/next year signing, like Terrence Williams is.

I really liked what he did against Indy, though. I'm not sure if he's taking away all of Bass's job considering how playoff tested Bass is...but it'd be nice if White could give 5, 10, 15 minutes of the Indy game...it would also take more pressure off our bigs rotation.