Is Avery Bradley Ainge's next Al Jefferson?

[D Dub]

Maybe he tries to tap Minny again and make a go at Kevin Love?

fast forward to 2015 draft
we've narrowly missed the playoffs
somehow, the ping pong balls come through with a top 5 pick.


BOS sends:  KG, Bradley, top 5 pick

MIN sends:  Kevin Love


Kevin announces retirement over summer, minny uses home opener to celebrate their franchises greatest player & watches $11M slide off their books. They (finally) get their SG and draft a stud to create well rounded lineup of;

Rubio, Bradley, Top5 pick, DWilliams, Pek



Love thrives spreading the floor with his 3pt shooting, inside outside magic with Sully follows.  Driving lanes everywhere open up for Rondo and Green & new big 3 emerges of Love/Rajon/Green.  Boston remains MIA's biggest roadblock. 

Rondo, Lee, Green, Sully, Love


or something like that...
 

[LarBrd33]

No because defensive guards aren't valued around the league the same way big men are.

Especially ones who are 6'2 and 180 pounds.  Bradley is a role player with role player potential.  Jefferson was a starting big man with allstar potential.  Big difference.

If Avery continues to show the confidence and agressiveness on offense that he's shown the past 2-3 weeks, he's showing he's a starting SG with DPOY potential.  that's pretty big especially since he's shown he can do a tune on all-star guards (DWade being a prime example)

If anything, he'd be proving that he's a capable starting PG... not a SG.  He's too small to be a SG.  Luckily there aren't a lot of great sg's in this league right now.  It's a league full of great offensive point guards... so I like Bradley slotted in as the starting PG.   

SOmeone should start a thread about Bradley is the Tom Brady to Rondo's Bledsoe... it will be good for some laughs.

[Moranis]

Nope.  Bradley has no where near the value to be the centerpiece of a trade for a top ten player in the league.  He never will either.

[quidinqui33]

I actually think that Rondo is the next Al Jefferson and I hate to say that, because I love Rondo.  I loved Big Al as well.

Ainge tried to net CP3 with Rondo and I think he will continue to dangle Rongo, IF, and only if he can get a legit star in return. 

The problem is that all of the stars in the 29 - 32 year range (similar to KG and ray at the time) that we would want are tied up on super teams.  The super team culture has changed everything.  There are not singular stars on the tail end of their primes that need a change of scenery any more.

Perhaps if the heat break it up at the end of this run, you can get a 32 year old Dwade or a 30 years old bosh.   Dwight and CP3 are the only legit stars out there that might be available, but doubt either of them will be on new teams next year.  Kevin love is probably the most realistic.

So that takes you to the next tier of stars.  Do you trade who ever our "New Al Jefferson" is (Rondo or Bradley or Green) for a Josh Smith (or ironically an Al Jefferson) and serviceable parts and hope he blossoms into a superstar?  Or do you stick with our youth and hope they blossom into superstars while filling in around them? 

Either way, I think we are in a good position to have a much smoother "rebuild" than in the 90s and 00s.

[ssspence]

Avery's not likely to fetch enough in trade to give up his contributions and leadership.

Ainge is far more likely to use Rondo as the primary chip to make a splashy trade over Bradley.
 

[LooseCannon]

A lot of good insights here. But my point is that isn't Avery really the only player on the team that could potentially net the "star" Ainge will undoubtedly be looking for? Players like Green or Jet will not whet anyone's appetite to unload an unhappy superstar. Avery potentially could.

As to the size issues. I think now is actually an opportune time with regard to the value of shooting guards. There are simply not a lot of dominant players at that position right now (compared to point guards). Combine that with the fact that Avery is probably one of the top five perimeter defends in the league, AND can guard point guards - who are so important these days - that I think he may have more value now than a guard would generally have in the League.

I disagree.  I think Green is undervalued by C's fans.  He is one of the 'new breed' of hybrid athletic, long multiple position players that teams seem to covet.  I think he has more value than you give him credit for (especially as he starts to assert himself).

I think Bradley has value too, but less than Green.

I think Green was correctly valued by some Celtics fans, based on past performance, but undervalued based on his potential and capacity to improve.  I think some Celtics fans similarly underestimate Bradley's capacity to improve because they assign him an improperly low ceiling due to his height.

[Stizz44]

2013 Draft Day Trade:

Lamarcus Aldridge for Bradley, Bass, and Sully.


Portland does this trade to have young pieces surrounding Lillard.

Boston does this to add a 2 time all-star to pair with Rondo.

Makes sense???

[CelticG1]

Nope.  Bradley has no where near the value to be the centerpiece of a trade for a top ten player in the league.  He never will either.

Well jefferson didnt either we just got lucky unless you think that was a fair trade which most people do not believe.

Who did denver get for melo again?

In any case I think we will always value him higher than other teams. Bradleys teademark will most likely always be his defense. Its just not something any team will be drooling over

[Moranis]

Nope.  Bradley has no where near the value to be the centerpiece of a trade for a top ten player in the league.  He never will either.

Well jefferson didnt either we just got lucky unless you think that was a fair trade which most people do not believe.

Who did denver get for melo again?

In any case I think we will always value him higher than other teams. Bradleys teademark will most likely always be his defense. Its just not something any team will be drooling over

Those types of trades always happen but they are always centered around top tier prospects and/or numerous first round picks. 

The Melo trade was

Melo, Billups, Balkman, Carter, Williams, Brewer, and the Nuggets option to swap 2016 draft picks

for

Chandler, Felton, Gallinari, Koufos, Mozgov, 2012 & 13 2nds, 2014 1st

So in addition to Melo the Knicks acquired Billups big contract and some ok players for 3 pretty solid young players in Chandler, Felton, and Gallinari and 2 more young prospects in Koufos and Mozgov (who both actually worked out pretty well) and some draft picks.

If Bradley was traded right now he would probably fall into the Koufos/Mozgov category.  I don't see him ever rating good enough to be in the Chandler/Felton/Gallinari category and in a couple more years he will be more likely in the Brewer type category that came to the Knicks.

[CelticG1]

Nope.  Bradley has no where near the value to be the centerpiece of a trade for a top ten player in the league.  He never will either.

Well jefferson didnt either we just got lucky unless you think that was a fair trade which most people do not believe.

Who did denver get for melo again?

In any case I think we will always value him higher than other teams. Bradleys teademark will most likely always be his defense. Its just not something any team will be drooling over

Those types of trades always happen but they are always centered around top tier prospects and/or numerous first round picks. 

The Melo trade was

Melo, Billups, Balkman, Carter, Williams, Brewer, and the Nuggets option to swap 2016 draft picks

for

Chandler, Felton, Gallinari, Koufos, Mozgov, 2012 & 13 2nds, 2014 1st

So in addition to Melo the Knicks acquired Billups big contract and some ok players for 3 pretty solid young players in Chandler, Felton, and Gallinari and 2 more young prospects in Koufos and Mozgov (who both actually worked out pretty well) and some draft picks.

If Bradley was traded right now he would probably fall into the Koufos/Mozgov category.  I don't see him ever rating good enough to be in the Chandler/Felton/Gallinari category and in a couple more years he will be more likely in the Brewer type category that came to the Knicks.

Yeah I think thats an absurd assessment

Guess I failed to realize that Marc Gasol, last pick in the draft 0 nba games was a top level prospect as well...

[clover]

2013 Draft Day Trade:

Lamarcus Aldridge for Bradley, Bass, and Sully.


Portland does this trade to have young pieces surrounding Lillard.

Boston does this to add a 2 time all-star to pair with Rondo.

Makes sense???

Aldridge is younger than Bass.  Portland doesn't do that trade.

[CelticG1]

2013 Draft Day Trade:

Lamarcus Aldridge for Bradley, Bass, and Sully.


Portland does this trade to have young pieces surrounding Lillard.

Boston does this to add a 2 time all-star to pair with Rondo.

Makes sense???

Aldridge is younger than Bass.  Portland doesn't do that trade.

Not sold on LA. Hes like Bosh. Supposed to be next KG but not even close

[Moranis]

Nope.  Bradley has no where near the value to be the centerpiece of a trade for a top ten player in the league.  He never will either.

Well jefferson didnt either we just got lucky unless you think that was a fair trade which most people do not believe.

Who did denver get for melo again?

In any case I think we will always value him higher than other teams. Bradleys teademark will most likely always be his defense. Its just not something any team will be drooling over

Those types of trades always happen but they are always centered around top tier prospects and/or numerous first round picks. 

The Melo trade was

Melo, Billups, Balkman, Carter, Williams, Brewer, and the Nuggets option to swap 2016 draft picks

for

Chandler, Felton, Gallinari, Koufos, Mozgov, 2012 & 13 2nds, 2014 1st

So in addition to Melo the Knicks acquired Billups big contract and some ok players for 3 pretty solid young players in Chandler, Felton, and Gallinari and 2 more young prospects in Koufos and Mozgov (who both actually worked out pretty well) and some draft picks.

If Bradley was traded right now he would probably fall into the Koufos/Mozgov category.  I don't see him ever rating good enough to be in the Chandler/Felton/Gallinari category and in a couple more years he will be more likely in the Brewer type category that came to the Knicks.

Yeah I think thats an absurd assessment

Guess I failed to realize that Marc Gasol, last pick in the draft 0 nba games was a top level prospect as well...

Marc Gasol was in the middle of a MVP season in the second best league in the world when he was traded for his brother (along with 2 firsts and a very recent first that had shown some promise though Crittenton had a lot of off court issues that derailed his career).  Pau was also not even close to being a top ten player in the league in February 2008. 

[connor]

Individually I don't see anyone willing to move a bona fide start for a trade centering around Bradley, but paired with another young talent (like Sully if he comes back full strength) then maybe a coach would see him as a potential building block he can surround with talent.

Teams are willing to gamble on size and scoring. Defense just isn't valued enough. And even if Bradley continues to develop his offensive game, he will most likely always be viewed as a defensive player first.

[ssspence]

2013 Draft Day Trade:

Lamarcus Aldridge for Bradley, Bass, and Sully.


Portland does this trade to have young pieces surrounding Lillard.

Boston does this to add a 2 time all-star to pair with Rondo.

Makes sense???

Since you asked.... no it really doesn't make any sense at all.