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Re: Wilcox - the man noone ever talks about
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2013, 01:00:51 PM »

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What's there to talk about?  ::)
How about him leading the team in offensive efficiency?
Or
How he has a higher +/- than, Bass, Rondo, Lee, Bradley, Barbosa and Collins?
or
How this team should be much improved giving Collin's minutes to him?
That's amazing. Except when it happens over an average of 13 minutes per game -- it's also quite irrelevant.

In another shocking development, we've given all of Collins minutes to Wilcox since the trade deadline, and the team has played pretty much the same.
His production has been better than Collins, maybe as far as wins and losses this team is the same, but I think we are better. We are more likely to win when improving our production even if it is in the minutest of ways.

I think all the OP was trying to say with this thread is Wilcox is playing well and it has made our team better if only by the slightest of margins.
All I'm trying to say is that his production is so marginally better that it's irrelevant. You could probably replace him with Randolph with the rotation right now, and not skip a beat.

As a matter of fact I won't be surprised if this happens by the end of season -- Randolph is a better defender, better rebounder, and rumour is he has a jump shot.

Wilcox has a decent short-range jumper as well, and even has a bit of a post game, but he's rarely had those opportunities in Boston. He's been given the offensive role of alley-ooper and garbage man, and he's fulfilled those roles pretty well (as evidenced by his high shooting percentage).
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Re: Wilcox - the man noone ever talks about
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2013, 01:03:47 PM »

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Among all Celtics bigs (and I'm not counting Green, whom I don't view as a big), Wilcox is the fastest, the best in the open court, the best leaper, the best finisher, and has shown over his career—when given a high number of minutes consistently—that he's a capable rebounder (a rate of about 8 per 30 minutes).

This is pretty much my point above.  Over much of his career, he's shown flashes of the talent that made him a high draft pick, but no consistency, and the production never came on a winner.

But...in 30 minutes, he could perhaps produce 12/8/1 off the bench.  Surely he could be the difference maker if he could do that with any consistency.

Since we have a pretty solid rotation at the other positions (3 guards, 2 SF's) and need a 3rd big with Bass and KG, Wilcox the impact player in the 8-player rotation puts us in the running.

Re: Wilcox - the man noone ever talks about
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2013, 01:05:12 PM »

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No way he gets 12/8/1 in thirty minutes.

(1) he won't play that much
(2) he couldn't average that anyways

There is literally ZERO chance he can get EIGHT rebounds a game. Impossibly impossible.
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Re: Wilcox - the man noone ever talks about
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2013, 01:09:47 PM »

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No way he gets 12/8/1 in thirty minutes.

(1) he won't play that much
(2) he couldn't average that anyways

There is literally ZERO chance he can get EIGHT rebounds a game. Impossibly impossible.

For almost 3 years in a row in Seattle, before going to OKC and being replaced in the lineup by Green, I think.

Believe it or not.

He was on my fantasy team back then...Yahoo roto.

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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2013, 05:17:31 PM »

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No way he gets 12/8/1 in thirty minutes.

(1) he won't play that much
(2) he couldn't average that anyways

There is literally ZERO chance he can get EIGHT rebounds a game. Impossibly impossible.

For almost 3 years in a row in Seattle, before going to OKC and being replaced in the lineup by Green, I think.

Believe it or not.

He was on my fantasy team back then...Yahoo roto.

My bad...closer to 13/7/0.5blk average over the 3 seasons in Seattle while getting around 30 minutes.

If he backs up both KG and Bass for 15 minutes at each position, that's 30 minutes for our pal Chris Wilcox.

Since we need a team effort to go deep, do our title hopes rest on Wilcox' shoulders as much as any other player?  Do we need 13/7 Wilcox?  Is that possible?

Re: Wilcox - the man noone ever talks about
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2013, 05:31:42 PM »

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like Wilcox  ,   he may continue to improve as his health returns too.  too bad he has that injury on his hand.