For everyone continually hating on Jeff Green

[ianboyextreme]

I like Jeff green. He hasn't played fine or well or anything positive said in this thread...lets get real. The last time he played really well was preseason.

But as the thread originally stated (as well as the article), it will take him time to get back to where he was.

[scaryjerry]

I like Jeff green. He hasn't played fine or well or anything positive said in this thread...lets get real. The last time he played really well was preseason.

But as the thread originally stated (as well as the article), it will take him time to get back to where he was.

Where he was? Okc? Because hes never played well here besides this preseason. I have sympathy for his surgery...but he was worse(as a celtic) before it.

[jowwwman]

I'd like to see everyone on here stay positive when the Celtics are a .500 team fighting for a playoff spot with Green  contributing his 8 points a game off the bench towards the end of the year.

For all those who have hope in Jeff Green what is it about him that makes you think he will ever help a team? He could score on OKC yeah but anyone can have a 30 point game in 37 minutes when given enough games, especially if that's your only strength. Hell big baby davis and nate robinson have had more explosive high scoring games than green when given similar playing time, what is it about green that makes him better than these two? I get that most people like the guy and want to see him succeed but give me a break, I would rather have Blatche on this team at this point.

He's a nice guy but his basketball IQ and ability to play under pressure are extremely low.

[crimson_stallion]

gree.
He needs to play about 35 mpg. He is not getting enough run. The best solution is to bench Lee and have Pierce split time between SG and SF until Bradley is healthy.

I can live with that. 

I don't think Green necessarily needs 35 minutes a night, but I think he needs at least 28-30 in order for us to get any value out of him.

He's not really an 'instant energy' kind of player, and I think he needs time on the floor to get his production in the flow of the offense.  I'm pretty confident that he could give us 12-15 points a night if his minutes were up around the 30 mark.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

gree.
He needs to play about 35 mpg. He is not getting enough run. The best solution is to bench Lee and have Pierce split time between SG and SF until Bradley is healthy.

I can live with that. 

I don't think Green necessarily needs 35 minutes a night, but I think he needs at least 28-30 in order for us to get any value out of him.

He's not really an 'instant energy' kind of player, and I think he needs time on the floor to get his production in the flow of the offense.  I'm pretty confident that he could give us 12-15 points a night if his minutes were up around the 30 mark.

So you think we should give green 8-10 more minutes and he could get us 4-7 more points (he already gets like 8 )? We could give 8-10 mins to anyone and they could get us 4-7 more points (Wilcox can easily get you 2-3 dunks in 8-10 mins to get those 4-7pts) but they would play better defense than "Asleep On Defense" Jeff Green, so what's the point in giving him that time?

[pearljammer10]

gree.
He needs to play about 35 mpg. He is not getting enough run. The best solution is to bench Lee and have Pierce split time between SG and SF until Bradley is healthy.

I can live with that. 

I don't think Green necessarily needs 35 minutes a night, but I think he needs at least 28-30 in order for us to get any value out of him.

He's not really an 'instant energy' kind of player, and I think he needs time on the floor to get his production in the flow of the offense.  I'm pretty confident that he could give us 12-15 points a night if his minutes were up around the 30 mark.

So you think we should give green 8-10 more minutes and he could get us 4-7 more points (he already gets like 8 )? We could give 8-10 mins to anyone and they could get us 4-7 more points (Wilcox can easily get you 2-3 dunks in 8-10 mins to get those 4-7pts) but they would play better defense than "Asleep On Defense" Jeff Green, so what's the point in giving him that time?

Green isn't an instant offense guy that can come off the bench and fit in right off the bat. He is a rhythm guy who needs to be in games for long stretches to get his motor going and become more effective. Yes 8 to 10 more minutes, depending on the rotation, would greatly benefit green.

[Change]

gree.
He needs to play about 35 mpg. He is not getting enough run. The best solution is to bench Lee and have Pierce split time between SG and SF until Bradley is healthy.

I can live with that. 

I don't think Green necessarily needs 35 minutes a night, but I think he needs at least 28-30 in order for us to get any value out of him.

He's not really an 'instant energy' kind of player, and I think he needs time on the floor to get his production in the flow of the offense.  I'm pretty confident that he could give us 12-15 points a night if his minutes were up around the 30 mark.

So you think we should give green 8-10 more minutes and he could get us 4-7 more points (he already gets like 8 )? We could give 8-10 mins to anyone and they could get us 4-7 more points (Wilcox can easily get you 2-3 dunks in 8-10 mins to get those 4-7pts) but they would play better defense than "Asleep On Defense" Jeff Green, so what's the point in giving him that time?

Green isn't an instant offense guy that can come off the bench and fit in right off the bat. He is a rhythm guy who needs to be in games for long stretches to get his motor going and become more effective. Yes 8 to 10 more minutes, depending on the rotation, would greatly benefit green.

Starting Green at wing goes against Doc Rivers sacred small ball religion. That is blasphemous. /s

[Fan from VT]

gree.
He needs to play about 35 mpg. He is not getting enough run. The best solution is to bench Lee and have Pierce split time between SG and SF until Bradley is healthy.

I can live with that. 

I don't think Green necessarily needs 35 minutes a night, but I think he needs at least 28-30 in order for us to get any value out of him.

He's not really an 'instant energy' kind of player, and I think he needs time on the floor to get his production in the flow of the offense.  I'm pretty confident that he could give us 12-15 points a night if his minutes were up around the 30 mark.

So you think we should give green 8-10 more minutes and he could get us 4-7 more points (he already gets like 8 )? We could give 8-10 mins to anyone and they could get us 4-7 more points (Wilcox can easily get you 2-3 dunks in 8-10 mins to get those 4-7pts) but they would play better defense than "Asleep On Defense" Jeff Green, so what's the point in giving him that time?

Green isn't an instant offense guy that can come off the bench and fit in right off the bat. He is a rhythm guy who needs to be in games for long stretches to get his motor going and become more effective. Yes 8 to 10 more minutes, depending on the rotation, would greatly benefit green.

It's fools gold with Green. He's no better when he plays more minutes, just the exact same player with more chances simply because of more playing time. Every player's points, etc. go up with more minutes. Same with Green. His efficiency does not change with more minutes. He's just inefficient.

[moiso]

If I had a job and wasn't very good at it over a 5 year period and still had people making excuses and justifying why I'm not very good and thinking I should be much better, I would be a lucky man.

[mrpoundforpound]

If I had a job and wasn't very good at it over a 5 year period and still had people making excuses and justifying why I'm not very good and thinking I should be much better, I would be a lucky man.

Don't diss JG just because your life sucks. He is trying hard and has the potential to be a top 20 player in the leage. Jeff is one of the smartest players in the league and has just come back from heart surgery he has all the tools to be an all star in the nba. All of these "fans" need to support Jeff in his comeback or just stop posting. Him and rondo are the future of the celtics.

[chambers]

The thing that's irking me is how bad his defense is. He's just so completely lost on rotations that I'm wondering what his IQ is like.

1) He has no fire
2) he's lot on defense after so long in this Celtics system to at least learn the plays by a book.
3) He makes some questionable decisions on defense and offense that are starting to make me wonder how high is IQ really is.

He's an above average NBA athlete with great tools to become a solid starter but his IQ might be letting him down.

A combination of no IQ and no heart/fire is horrid.
In OKC he was excellent but his job was to run and gun, and not worry too much about playing defense because the Thunder strategy is to basically outscore everyone by 20 points a game an tire the defense out.

I'll keep the faith because once he gets our defense, he'll stop thinking about it so much.
I'm just looking at things like his horrid footwork which has always bothered me, then his cluelessness on defensive rotations and wondering if he is just plain dumb.

[GreenFaith1819]

For me I'll support him. Always.

This entire team needs to get it together, and they will.

Championships aren't won in November.

I'm more concerned about how Jeff Green (and the Boston Celtics) are playing in Feb or Mar rather than how they are playing now.

Please folks - give him (and BOS) time. It is looking like Jeff's prediction on the front page of the blog a few weeks ago has a lot of meaning to it.

20 Games.

This TEAM should have a good 20 games to get itself into a groove - not just Jeff Green. The good thing is that there are signs that we are ALREADY getting it together - wins vs MIL, CHI on the road are HUGE - especially CHI.

CHI is a 2nd round playoff team WITHOUT DDrose. MIL is a probable playoff team, too. We beat UTAH, too - and even THEY made the playoffs last season.

We WILL get it together - and so will Jeff Green.

[SHAQATTACK]

The thing that's irking me is how bad his defense is. He's just so completely lost on rotations that I'm wondering what his IQ is like.

1) He has no fire
2) he's lot on defense after so long in this Celtics system to at least learn the plays by a book.
3) He makes some questionable decisions on defense and offense that are starting to make me wonder how high is IQ really is.

He's an above average NBA athlete with great tools to become a solid starter but his IQ might be letting him down.

A combination of no IQ and no heart/fire is horrid.
In OKC he was excellent but his job was to run and gun, and not worry too much about playing defense because the Thunder strategy is to basically outscore everyone by 20 points a game an tire the defense out.

I'll keep the faith because once he gets our defense, he'll stop thinking about it so much.
I'm just looking at things like his horrid footwork which has always bothered me, then his cluelessness on defensive rotations and wondering if he is just plain dumb.

good post,  Green has none of the Milsap fire and "WANT" or  KOBE's fire to win no matter what.  Wilcox gives it his all , NO complaints.   AMount of points scored isn;t everything...its about WORK ethic...Green is slacker on the court. Sorry that is just the way it is , or STUPID one the other.

If Green's effort matched his salary , there would be alot less noise .    His intensity  "SUCKs"  ,   he needs to wake up, he is in the NBA , not there on the court to stns around and watch .

[ederson]

http://www.csnne.com/basketball-boston-celtics/celtics-talk/Jeff-Green-thankful-for-everything?blockID=805071&feedID=10424

You know what happens when you get heart surgery? Your chest bone is broken down the middle and then cracked open. Its incredible that Jeff and Wilcox are already back on the court and I, for one, am going to be as patient as open heart surgery dictates.

I know i`ll sound inhuman and as a person i wish him the best. It`s realy tough to get back from such a serious condition but he earns 9m/y or so!!! Unless DA gave him this kind of contract as charity he`s expected to play much much better. At least wilcox got the minimum but still gives his best

Check the Royce White thread... Most posters said "he shouldn`t be in the NBA considering his condition" ... Same applies here.

[bfrombleacher]

The argument was that JG played against crappy competition in the preseason.

But he's also played a bunch of scrubs since the season started. No preseason good JG.

I'm for this theory.