Celtics (1-2) at Sixers (1-1) 10/15

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I agree with your statement.  I just wish we would have seen a bit more effort out there by everyone.  But then again, if the goal is to really use it as an experiment to try out different lineups and get the bench minutes, it shouldn't matter what the final score ends up looking like.  I guess...

kg is most important player on dis team. 0 mins and we gettin beat by philly by thirty points. if they had bynum and garnett still didnt play i would be in tears 

Not even. The main reason Celtics are losing alot is that in both the NY and Philly games, Celtics played the scrubs way more than the other teams. Look at that NY KNicks game. Doc played all 5 scrubs to win the game. I never take preseason seriously

[BostonNative]

kg is most important player on dis team. 0 mins and we gettin beat by philly by thirty points. if they had bynum and garnett still didnt play i would be in tears 

Not even. The main reason Celtics are losing alot is that in both the NY and Philly games, Celtics played the scrubs way more than the other teams. Look at that NY KNicks game. Doc played all 5 scrubs to win the game. I never take preseason seriously

those scrubs your talking about are our bench 0_o

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I came to say one thing (well one main thing).

1)Sully is TERRIBLE on defense!

He rotates too slow, he never gets off the floor to contest shots, he gets ran around by faster (but still slow) bigs!

People talk about Bass' defense but he was never this bad and improved greatly during the season!

Sully may NEED to start (but he is not better than Bass no matter what most of you guys say), just so KG can cover for him on D.

I didn't think he was going to be THIS bad on defense but I almost threw my remote at the screen (not just tonight either... he was even bad before the NYK game but that game is when it seemed to be worse).

Oh how I wish Melo had Sully's brain/mentality. I wish Sully had Melo's defense.

I just could not believe what I was seeing out there, it almost looked like he was in cement on defense.


I really like Sully but I can't watch him on defense without cringing!

I wonder how vets feel Doc favouritism to Jared Sullinger. Brandon Bass must feel disrespected Sully given his job. I can't remember last rook Doc handed minutes on silver platter like this. Even Rajon Rondo and Big Baby Davis at some point had to earn their minutes. 

Fab Melo is the biggest loser in this situation. On a night KG doesn't suit up, and Celtics are getting blown out he hardly plays.

[crimson_stallion]

Jamar Smith even missed a fastbreak layup smh get him outta here he's worse then Gabe Pruitt

Giving you a TP for that one 

[gar]

Sounds like Darko might be our saviour

[SHAQATTACK]

I'm taking  another dose of nasty medicine and watching this game over for a second time.

This team looked worse tonight than last years Bobcats

Their  BENCH scrub center beat us up like a rented mule , their rookie guard used JET and ROndo.   Green didn't defend Young very good. 

the Celtics are not athletic enough to play without a 7 foot center (and a good) one at that. 

A banged up Darko kept the game from being a total joke.

Dear Doc,

 SMITH and XMAS suck ...please cut them sooner than later.

They got me wishing for Etwan Moore back.   


 

[JHTruth]

Sully must have been a Doc pick all the way. All he's done is gush over him since Day 1, hand him most of the minutes, and basically treat him like the savior.

Sully's D is HORRIBLE. It's like his feet are stuck in cement. He's clueless on rotations, can't contest to save his life.

Granted he does well on the glass and decent on offense but WOW is his defense bad..

It's laughable he gets mins over Bass and Darko right now. And even Fab as bad as he is on O, is miles ahead of Sully on D, not even close..

[crimson_stallion]

I wonder how vets feel Doc favouritism to Jared Sullinger. Brandon Bass must feel disrespected Sully given his job. I can't remember last rook Doc handed minutes on silver platter like this. Even Rajon Rondo and Big Baby Davis at some point had to earn their minutes. 

You have to remember that this is the preseason - this is the time of year where veterans get rest and young guys get plenty of minutes in order to help evaluate their capabilities.

When you have a rookie as talented as Sully, that guy is always going to get a big role in preseason games but it doesn't necessarilly mean he will get such a big role in actual games.  I'm sure he will still play solid minutes, but his role will be more simplified to just being an effort/hustle guy. 

Also not sure if the defense is all on Sully or if it's a little on everybody.  Bass was a pretty poor defender last season individually, but he was decent within the system.  In the preseason play I've seen so far Bass' defense has been as bad as Sully's so it may come down to guys just learing each others' tendancies defensively out there.

Fab Melo is the biggest loser in this situation. On a night KG doesn't suit up, and Celtics are getting blown out he hardly plays.

I agree, I really think Melo deserves more minutes in preseason games.  The fact that Jamar Smith is playing 14 mins a game (he is godaweful) suggests Doc is playing guys for experimentation and not really caring about the wins, so why not give Fab a chance to get some confidence? 

He can't possibly suck much more then the guys Doc's been playing in that 3rd unit...they are really pretty horrendous.

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Quote: You have to remember that this is the preseason - this is the time of year where veterans get rest and young guys get plenty of minutes in order to help evaluate their capabilities.

When you have a rookie as talented as Sully, that guy is always going to get a big role in preseason games but it doesn't necessarilly mean he will get such a big role in actual games.  I'm sure he will still play solid minutes, but his role will be more simplified to just being an effort/hustle guy. 

Also not sure if the defense is all on Sully or if it's a little on everybody.  Bass was a pretty poor defender last season individually, but he was decent within the system.  In the preseason play I've seen so far Bass' defense has been as bad as Sully's so it may come down to guys just learing each others' tendancies defensively out there.

This. Well said. And I also agree with the idea Doc is testing the rooks weeding out the absolute failures. That said,I also believe he wants to find a few guys willing to earn minutes and fill their role. Sully and Lee will pass the test, Melo and the rest look doomed. Great move resting KG tonight. Why drive the Ferrari (albeit a 95' Ferrari it's still a Ferrari) when you can  save the miles.

Very happy to see Jeff Green doing so well looks focused and determind. the Sixers will face a much more focused and defined group come Nov.
 

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And sorry I don't really know how to quote or write so please bear with me I'm a rook too. Lol

[D Dub]

Count me officially off the Sully train.  Classic college stud who doesn't have an nba role. 

Hopefully I'm wrong but all that hype of his should come with a grain of salt.  I still think Melo will be a better nba player.  Doc, the master of motivation, knows exactly what he's doing..

[chambers]

Lol, the usual pre season end of the world posts and armagedon panic sweeping statements. Just relax, the rookies need 15 games to settle in. Remember how terrible Bass was on defense when he showed up?
It's a long season, this is a deep team, and we have MANY young players which means it takes longer to determine line ups and who fits in where.
I remember some of the games we lost in the pre season and early regular season, youll forget the turn overs soon enough.
This is a game which gives the rookies a wake up call more than anything-which can only be a good thing.
Woohh sssaaahhhhhh people this is a very long season and the season hasn't even started yet!

[bfrombleacher]

Last year before the All Star break, we were worse than this and played together longer than this (only 5 players returning and 1 of them injured, 1 of them having a change in role, 1 of them not playing). It was also not the preseason.

Two rotational players are sadly injured. Very interested to see Wilcox run the floor. I can see us being even better with them despite being so deep already.

Everyone had a bad game. Jet went 1-4. Only Pierce, Darko Bass, and Sully showed up. It happens. Add to that the fact that everyone is playing limited minutes.

On a brighter note...

Christmas is cracking the lineup, hitting the floor in the first. He'd be the 11-13th man at best this season (near Collins) but he's playing as well as some of the end of rotation players other teams have. I love that he can play within the team concept without being much of a liability. Hope he pulls a Stiemsma.

Collins is very fit. I like it. He's not great but I think he's already better than guys like Hollins, JO and Sean Williams.

Pierce is back. Darko and Sully are still rocking the house. Bass bounced back really nicely.

It doesn't excuse the bad defense, lack of cohesion but this is what the preseason is for. Also, get rid of Jamar Smith.

[kozlodoev]

It is blatantly obvious that Jamar Smith is BY FAR the worst player on our roster right now, and might be in the running for the title of "the worst player to ever put on a Celtics jersey".

The only thing that is blatantly obvious is that Jamar Smith is the only one from this lot who can guard the PG position.

Wait, I lied, it's also blatantly obvious that the kids from the overreaction brigade are on a rampage around the forum these days

[crimson_stallion]

The only thing that is blatantly obvious is that Jamar Smith is the only one from this lot who can guard the PG position.

Wait, I lied, it's also blatantly obvious that the kids from the overreaction brigade are on a rampage around the forum these days

Oh really?

Perhaps I'm not seeing right.

Please tell me what exactly it is about Jamar Smith's 1:2 assist-to-turnover ratio, his 1:4 steal-to-turnover ratio, his 18% FG shooting that raises your eyebrow?

He is utterly horrible. His passable defensive pressure (which still no match or Dooling's last season) doesn't even come close to making up for the massive liability he is in every other possible facet of the game.

Also that's just the statistical stuff - that's not even considering the level of composure (or lack thereof) he plays with or his complete inability to run a play.

The guy is a scoring PG who has so far been the worst scorer on our team...yes even Darko is shooting at a higher percentage.  What more do you want me to say?

His efficiency is MINUS - i.e. BELOW ZERO. Please find me a Celtics player from last season (or any other player on our current preseason roster) who had a negative efficiency rating. I'll be waiting...