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Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« on: September 29, 2012, 01:42:38 PM »

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Well the title says it all, so here you go;
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Ray Allen, on Garnett saying he lost Allen's number, "That's a shame. I'm a good person to talk to on the phone."
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“Even if I was still there, I probably wouldn’t talk to him much over the summer,'' Allen said. "We’re friends regardless of what happened. I’m on another team. I think that’s the focus right for me being here. He’s got to do what he’s got to do up in Boston. So I’m not worried about it.

“I don’t know,’’ Allen said. “That’s a question you have to ask him. I’ve been around long enough to know that when you speak, sometimes what you say, I don’t know how many miles apart we are, sometimes the translation gets mixed up.’
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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2012, 02:01:44 PM »

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His that's a shame comment is kind of funny haha.
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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 02:30:56 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."



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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 02:41:04 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.

Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 03:09:33 PM »

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That phone comment cracked me up. Those two can resume talks after one of them hangs it up.

Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2012, 03:20:00 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.
exactly , they offered him a no trade, he was just being super sensative. Rondo was in trade rumors all year last year, same with KG and PP.

Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2012, 03:51:31 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.
exactly , they offered him a no trade, he was just being super sensative. Rondo was in trade rumors all year last year, same with KG and PP.

Which was the KG rumor?

I was in favor of Rondo for CP3 (still am), and liked Rondo for Steph Curry (if that was even a legit rumor). But I would have personally went to Boston to kick DA in the face if he traded Pierce for that garbage platter he supposedly wanted from the Nets. To this day I refuse to believe that rumor was true.
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2012, 04:56:24 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.
exactly , they offered him a no trade, he was just being super sensative. Rondo was in trade rumors all year last year, same with KG and PP.

I'd like to see a credible link that the Celtics definitely offered Ray a no-trade.  I read speculation that they might give him one, but nothing about them actually offering him one and him turning it down.


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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2012, 05:06:06 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.
exactly , they offered him a no trade, he was just being super sensative. Rondo was in trade rumors all year last year, same with KG and PP.

I'd like to see a credible link that the Celtics definitely offered Ray a no-trade.  I read speculation that they might give him one, but nothing about them actually offering him one and him turning it down.


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The Celtics, sources said, have their own plan for incorporating Allen into a different role that includes playing him alongside Jason Terry, who committed to sign with the Celtics earlier this week. The Boston Herald reported that Boston also has offered to include a no-trade clause in Allen's contract, something the Heat cannot offer.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8136250/boston-celtics-miami-heat-ray-allen-feels-torn-sources-say

Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2012, 05:26:26 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.
exactly , they offered him a no trade, he was just being super sensative. Rondo was in trade rumors all year last year, same with KG and PP.

I'd like to see a credible link that the Celtics definitely offered Ray a no-trade.  I read speculation that they might give him one, but nothing about them actually offering him one and him turning it down.


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The Celtics, sources said, have their own plan for incorporating Allen into a different role that includes playing him alongside Jason Terry, who committed to sign with the Celtics earlier this week. The Boston Herald reported that Boston also has offered to include a no-trade clause in Allen's contract, something the Heat cannot offer.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8136250/boston-celtics-miami-heat-ray-allen-feels-torn-sources-say

Perhaps it's semantics, but here's what the Herald actually reported:

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Allen told the Herald months ago that he didn’t want to have to sweat out another trade deadline after nearly being moved in the past, and word is the Celts are ready to comply with either a no-trade clause or a trade kicker that would get him a good sized raise in salary if he does get moved.

In other words, there was an unsourced rumor that the Celtics were "ready" to offer "either" a no-trade clause or a trade kicker.  There's no solid report that they offered either, or that Ray ever turned it down.


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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2012, 05:51:25 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."
I agree.  Not sure how many of the rumors he caught, and how many Danny told him were real, but some of them were extremely weird and seemed like we talking less value for him than he was worth.  I personally would definitely feel disrespected, even if my years left in the league were likewise limited (we were a win-now team anyway).

Ray was in a good situation with solid healthcare for his son, he was probably scared of getting shipped to Minnesota or something.  If he feels more secure golfing in Miami and hanging on the beach when he's not working, more power to him.
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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2012, 06:04:52 PM »

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I think this is the heart of the matter from Ray's perspective:

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"I've been in weird trade situations the last few years. You always felt you had one foot in and one foot out so I can't worry about it."

He would have had a no-trade clause with the Celtics, he doesn't have one with the Heat.
exactly , they offered him a no trade, he was just being super sensative. Rondo was in trade rumors all year last year, same with KG and PP.

I'd like to see a credible link that the Celtics definitely offered Ray a no-trade.  I read speculation that they might give him one, but nothing about them actually offering him one and him turning it down.


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The Celtics, sources said, have their own plan for incorporating Allen into a different role that includes playing him alongside Jason Terry, who committed to sign with the Celtics earlier this week. The Boston Herald reported that Boston also has offered to include a no-trade clause in Allen's contract, something the Heat cannot offer.

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8136250/boston-celtics-miami-heat-ray-allen-feels-torn-sources-say

Perhaps it's semantics, but here's what the Herald actually reported:

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Allen told the Herald months ago that he didn’t want to have to sweat out another trade deadline after nearly being moved in the past, and word is the Celts are ready to comply with either a no-trade clause or a trade kicker that would get him a good sized raise in salary if he does get moved.

In other words, there was an unsourced rumor that the Celtics were "ready" to offer "either" a no-trade clause or a trade kicker.  There's no solid report that they offered either, or that Ray ever turned it down.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/07/09/grousbeck-on-felger-mazz-celtics-not-upset-with-ray-allen-for-leaving/

Scroll down to “Click here to play audio” and bring up the audio for the interview of Wyc.
At 8:06 Wyc says Danny knew a no-trade clause was okay with him. He didn’t think it was a huge issue. Ray would have stayed for more money than offered, an amount that would have hurt the team.

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Re: Ray responds to Garnetts comment
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2012, 08:58:10 PM »

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 Judas would've remained for $9mil,but not $6mil, but would play for the enemy for $3mil. Hmmmm.

It is pretty clear to me that Benedict's goal was to publicly disrespect the Celtics as payback for his feeling disrespected by them because he was almost traded and was supplanted by Bradley as the starter.

Seems pretty petty, small and classless. "Ray Allen" and "class" and "Celtic" should never be mentioned in the same sentance again.

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2012, 11:25:04 PM »

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It is long past time to put to bed the notion that a no-trade was off the table in Allen negotiations. Wyc has admitted to being open to it, and we know that Ainge is not allergic to them in principle, since KG got one.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 02:38:08 AM »

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Judas would've remained for $9mil,but not $6mil, but would play for the enemy for $3mil. Hmmmm.

It is pretty clear to me that Benedict's goal was to publicly disrespect the Celtics as payback for his feeling disrespected by them because he was almost traded and was supplanted by Bradley as the starter.

Seems pretty petty, small and classless. "Ray Allen" and "class" and "Celtic" should never be mentioned in the same sentance again.

This. But it doesn't matter anymore at this point I dont even think of Ray I just think of our current team