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K Mart, are you kidding me?
« on: September 12, 2012, 08:22:25 PM »

Offline billysan

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We need to grab KMart and get him a contract ASAP. This is providing of course he is healthy enough to contribute. We get a veteran PF that will play and make minimal mistakes. He is capable of playing a role and knows how to win. I could see him earning 15 mpg at the PF as a backup and could even maybe spot start. If he takes some of Bass, Green or Sullingers minutes? Big deal, they can earn minutes at another position. Sullinger at the 5, Green at the SF and Bass? He will start at the PF anyway.

Let Christmas and Joseph battle for that last spot, sign Kenyon Martin.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2012, 08:25:31 PM »

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Develop Sully and Melo, and give KG more minutes at 4 to preserve him.

No thanks. Maybe 5 years ago. More like 10.


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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2012, 08:33:13 PM »

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I wouldnt mind him..brings toughness and a veteran to wake up the rooks
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2012, 08:41:32 PM »

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As much as I dislike Martin
, he brings a lot to the table fore the c's.

Another Legit big man to add to KG and Bass and allowing Bass to go to his more natural backup PF position(or start him because of his jump shooting ability .

Martin has been deep in the finals many times and the finals twice.

This would also allow us to move Bass and Green or Bradley if any really good players become available(Big Al/Millsap type or a very good wing) at the trade deadline and still have Martin,KG,Sullinger and Wilcox/Collins to cover the big man rotation

Probably not likely to happen, but it opens up a lot of opportunities to improve the team IMO

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2012, 08:58:29 PM »

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I wouldnt mind him..brings toughness and a veteran to wake up the rooks
This and the fact that he will accept a backup role at 0-? mpg. He is a win win pickup. He will be great as another veteran guy who has been there, knows what it takes and can still bring it for short burst which is all we need.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2012, 09:21:24 PM »

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Develop Sully and Melo, and give KG more minutes at 4 to preserve him.

No thanks. Maybe 5 years ago. More like 10.


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we're one injury away from treasuring bass, even though i like sully, green, and wilcox more.

Wilcox and sully are injuries waiting to happen unfortunately, and pierce and kg are vulnerable as well.

Bass is an awesome insurance policy at worst, and a decent starter at best. He could certainly improve over last year. He didnt always have a deadly jumper.

So isnt the addition of a reasonably healthy, albeit long in the tooth, experienced veteran just what you are advocating here?

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2012, 10:23:31 PM »

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Mini KG with a ton less talent for a few mins a game? Outside of my want for Joseph/Xmas, I say why the hell not? He might be just what we need. Pick him up midseason, and BAM. Awesomeness.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2012, 10:33:46 PM »

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I'd like to have him, but it's also been reported that Terrence Williams is on the C's radar.

To give you a quick scouting report on him, he's a poor man's Andre Iguodala.  Can run the offense, streaky shooter, incredibly athletic, not sure how great of a defender he is, though.

He's a bit of a knucklehead, but he has all the makings of an All-Star.  I's take a chance on him, but I could see why we'd pass.

If I had to choose between KMart and TWill, I go with the latter.  We need one more wing, and it doesn't look like Peaches is returning.

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2012, 10:37:18 PM »

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We can't be the only ones who want him.. Any news/rumors on where he's leaning?

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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2012, 10:38:15 PM »

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(On Kenyon Martin) "Martin, remains unemployed despite his reputation as a tenacious defender and enforcer. He's the sort of veteran that could come in handy for any contender, but here's the crucial rub: It appears that most, if not all, of the interested teams want him to sign a veteran's minimum deal.
The Lakers and Celtics have shown interest previously, but the question now is whether the 34-year-old Martin will hold out until midseason or perhaps even retire if he doesn't get a deal and a situation to his liking."

(On Terrence Williams) "Former lottery pick Terrence Williams is still considering his options as well, and a source with knowledge of his situation says the 25-year-old small forward is working out for the Pistons in Detroit this week. Dallas and Boston are believed to be interested as well."

Amick also says that Matt Barnes is most likely headed across town to the Lakers. Martin/Williams would be an either/or thing. I've never really been a fan of Martin. He's tough, but also seems to be an Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.. Obviously at 34 he's also lost some of the athleticism that made him a quality player. I feel like he would duplicate Bass and Sullinger and would prefer just giving the final roster spot to a guy like Christmas over Martin.

Williams is another guy who has talent, but has bounced around due to knuckleheaditis. On a team with Pierce, Green, and Lee already, not sure what his role would be, but to whine about playing time off the bench. Danny did a good job of cleaning up the roster last year to rid it of knuckleheads and was rewarded with a deep playoff run. I'd stay the course this season and pass on these guys.

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2012, 10:38:39 PM »

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Re: K Mart, are you kidding me?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2012, 10:48:21 PM »

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Lol thought you meant Kevin. But i would love Kenyon. defensive presence and big. as long as he doesnt insult Green and Wilcox 'bout their hearts (remember him and Alonzo Mourning) then he'd be great.

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2012, 10:55:23 PM »

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Develop Sully and Melo, and give KG more minutes at 4 to preserve him.

No thanks. Maybe 5 years ago. More like 10.


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we're one injury away from treasuring bass, even though i like sully, green, and wilcox more.

Wilcox and sully are injuries waiting to happen unfortunately, and pierce and kg are vulnerable as well.

Bass is an awesome insurance policy at worst, and a decent starter at best. He could certainly improve over last year. He didnt always have a deadly jumper.

So isnt the addition of a reasonably healthy, albeit long in the tooth, experienced veteran just what you are advocating here?


Not really. I was partly exaggerating when I said we would treasure Bass if one injury happened.

Kind of like we'd treasure Dooling if Rondo got hurt, just because he'd be useful depth instead of not useful depth.

I have Bass, Wilcox, Sully, and Green rated about even. KG, however prideful he may be, has expressed quiet desire to play PF and ease his load. Danny leaked about how much work and energy it takes for KG just to be able to play.

KG won't come out and say he'll only play PF, but he will be hinting at it and pushing for it when he meets with Doc.

KG did afterall wait to re-sign with the Celtics until after the draft. He wanted to make sure they addressed the center position so that he would have some help. The Celtics drafted two center capable prospects, and KG re-signed.

Sully and Melo are great talents, and well worth developing over the course of the season and beyond. They are quite possibly the front line of the future.

Last year Danny chose not to re-sign Delonte because he wanted to take pressure off of Bradley and get him regular minutes without looking over his shoulder.
It worked out very well, and Bradley never would have supplanted Ray Allen as starter if Bradley had been splitting minutes with Delonte and getting pulled every time he made a mistake.

The locker room also had a truly special chemistry to it, according to Doc Rivers and the team. No head cases, and eager young minds absorbing the practice habits, attitudes, and skills of great veteran leadership.

I'd compare Martin to DWest in those two ways, and the decision-making process will include those same considerations.

I will say that we may be one injury away from being one injury away from cherishing KMart as a spot backup.

As good as the chemistry was last year, you have to wonder if DWest would have made a difference when Ray was hobbled and fatigued against the Heat last year in the last couple games of the series.

It's a tricky equation for sure. But at this point I'd rather sign a decent backup SF instead of a PF. I'd rather risk the potential stunting or slowing of Joseph's development than our first rounders.

Worst case scenario if we don't sign another PF is that Collins might actually see the floor in spot meaningful minutes.


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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2012, 10:58:39 PM »

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This would be too good to be true of that's the case. Martin would be the perfect backup 4 for this squad and add endless amount of depth to an older team that is always going to be looking for fresh legs with experience. At worst Martin will be a great locker room addition alongside coach Keyon and a great on court practice mentor for Sullinger, Melo, and even bass and green. Green could learn a lot from Martin especially since it looks like he might be playing a lot of the four slot.

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 07:21:12 AM »

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This would be too good to be true of that's the case.

K Mart's good days are long gone.  He would be a nice vet to have on the bench, but nothing more.