Melo vs DeAndre Jordan

[Ogaju]

actually no, this is why we have message boards. If we waited for everything to play out it wouldnt be fun. By the way, someone gave DeAndre a chance, that is why we are clamouring for the same chance to be given to our rookies.

[gar]

Perk was pretty raw and still lacks come basic fundamentals; but doc played him. Difference is when you are contending your decision making shifts from development to wins. Melo is more athletic / mobile that Perk. Could see Melo being better than Perk; but he will never be the beast that was Perk.

The Giddens pic always bugged me. Chalmers, Jordan, C-D Roberts and Sonny Weems were all on the board.

[Celts Fan 92]

not impressed wit Fab Melo nd dont wanna see him on da court. saw flashes of good athleticism nd he's a good passer for his size he's mainly trash at dis point in his career tho. plus he hit a few mid range jumpers which is sumthin he has ova DeAndre Jordan

[arambone]

Fab was voted 3rd best defender by his fellow rookies.

Big East Defensive POY in his first year of extended playing time.

If he had played in the tournament he would have gone Top 10 at the end of the day.

Goofy foreigner drops in draft. Celtics get their next center.

The biggest issues of the Celtics' future have already been addressed. The only need the Celtics might have over the next 3-4 years will be another small forward as Pierce declines.

Celtics are sitting pretty until Rondo's contract runs out. It's gonna be a great run, a seamless transition into the next era.

Perk was the only cost, besides an unlikely extra championship.

Not re-signing Ray was actually fortunate, because he would have cost 7 million over 3 years, money better spent on Courtney Lee and extra cap space.

Danny should trade his 2013 first rounder for a future first, and hope to move up in the draft. No immediate need for the next couple years.

[Galeto]

It's possible Melo may never develop beyond the limited role that DeAndre has but at least he has the potential to do more.  DeAndre is more athletic and the result is that he'll finish more alley-oops than Melo but besides that, Melo is already a better passer and shooter. Melo has a good stroke and could turn into a capable shooter.  The next shot outside the paint that DeAndre makes might be the second of his career.

DeAndre's not horrible but saying Melo might be better than him isn't heaping much praise on Melo.  My hope is that Melo turns into an Omer Asik who can shoot free throws and make a few offensive shots.  The rebounding is the biggest gap between the two but Melo's rebounding numbers in Syracuse zone is not an accurate reflection of his rebounding ability.  As far as I can tell, his hands are good, he has the physical tools and he blocks out.  He should be a good rebounder.

[billysan]

Because of his size and athletic potential we had to draft Melo as a future rebounding and defense prospect. We did the same thing with Perk. You have to try and get as many intangibles like work ethic, character and leadership as possible in the same package. After all this, it is still a gamble with an unfinished product that you get a decent bigman.

Deandre Jordan was the same type of risk. So were Kwame Brown and Greg Oden. Health is the other wild card we have to deal with. The list of failures is long as we know, much longer than the success list.

[biggs]

yeah that is the attitude, spend a first round pick on a project. I am sure Doc #18 has been elsuive. We are about the only team that will run our aging stars to the ground because we do not play rookies.

Folks like you would not have given Bradley or Steimsma a chance, and if DA had drafted DeAndre Jordan he probably would be out of the league by now.

This was pretty funny.

While I agree with you, I have a theory on rookie play this year.  IMO the Celtics have tried to emulate the Spurs franchise since the big three era began.  Winning with defense, a great coach, one of the best big men, 3 player core, point guard becomes star as other stars age, the list goes on & on. 

However, the Celts could never really draft impact players with their respective picks (like the spurs) until Avery came into play.  I believe Doc's philosophy may have changed with Avery's play, and while Melo isn't exactly an impact player Sullinger definitely could be.

Hope to see minutes for our young bigs.

Sincerely,
Biggs 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I think DeAndre Jordan is a fair comparison right now for Melo. But I think Fab has higher ceiling. He already has a better shooting stroke, meaning he'll be a better shooter. He's also as mobile and athletic already. In a couple of years, I he works hard and everything goes right, he'll be better.

A little off topic:
I really hope the C's develop that jump shot of his (Melo). I love him playing pick and pops and knocking down 18 footers when open, and be a force on the defense. He opens the floor for Sully too to give him room to work if he develop that jump shot. The stroke is there already.

[Geo123]

I think DeAndre Jordan is a fair comparison right now for Melo. But I think Fab has higher ceiling. He already has a better shooting stroke, meaning he'll be a better shooter. He's also as mobile and athletic already. In a couple of years, I he works hard and everything goes right, he'll be better.

A little off topic:
I really hope the C's develop that jump shot of his (Melo). I love him playing pick and pops and knocking down 18 footers when open, and be a force on the defense. He opens the floor for Sully too to give him room to work if he develop that jump shot. The stroke is there already.

I think we will be very lucky if Melo ends up that good.  He hasn't shown anything yet in college or the preseason this year to even remotely show that espcially offensively.  Not that Jordan is an offensive juggernaut.  Melo has no offensive game so why would you think he will grow into a consistant 18 foot jumper?  Sully yes he has shown good offensive potential and showed a pretty decnet jumper at OSU but not Melo...

[Sketch5]

People keep wanting Melo to be this amazing offensive player, and Im not sure why he needs to be.

I see him more like Dikembe Mutombo. Just out there blocking everything in the paint. He should get at least 5 PPG with Rondo getting him easy buckets. But in a shooters league, its nice to have one guy that doesn't need the ball every time.

So if he can learn how to rebound, which Im sure he really hasn't been taught how to yet, i think this guy could be a steel at 22.

Just needs to average 5PPG 10RPG and 3BPG. Id be happy with that.

[the_Bird]

GIFSoup

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.  DeAndre Jordan is a reasonable goal for Fab Melo.  Expecting him to be a facsimile of one of the greatest defensive players ever...  that's probably not realistic.

[Finkelskyhook]

actually no, this is why we have message boards. If we waited for everything to play out it wouldnt be fun. By the way, someone gave DeAndre a chance, that is why we are clamouring for the same chance to be given to our rookies.

DeAndre got a chance on a really bad team.  Melo, IMHO, would be best served starting the season in the NBDL.  There's a lot to be said for practice time with Garnett...But Melo needs playing time.

[Sketch5]

GIFSoup

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.  DeAndre Jordan is a reasonable goal for Fab Melo.  Expecting him to be a facsimile of one of the greatest defensive players ever...  that's probably not realistic.

I never said he was going to like Dikembe. I said MORE like him, meaning defensive minded and not worrying about offense.

[Celts Fan 92]

People keep wanting Melo to be this amazing offensive player, and Im not sure why he needs to be.

I see him more like Dikembe Mutombo. Just out there blocking everything in the paint. He should get at least 5 PPG with Rondo getting him easy buckets. But in a shooters league, its nice to have one guy that doesn't need the ball every time.

So if he can learn how to rebound, which Im sure he really hasn't been taught how to yet, i think this guy could be a steel at 22.

Just needs to average 5PPG 10RPG and 3BPG. Id be happy with that.

please get ALL da way outta here wit dat comparison nd expected 10 rebounds per game from Fab. i highly doubt we'll see him unless its hella injuries or we're up by 25 Fab Melo is a project rite now

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I think DeAndre Jordan is a fair comparison right now for Melo. But I think Fab has higher ceiling. He already has a better shooting stroke, meaning he'll be a better shooter. He's also as mobile and athletic already. In a couple of years, I he works hard and everything goes right, he'll be better.

A little off topic:
I really hope the C's develop that jump shot of his (Melo). I love him playing pick and pops and knocking down 18 footers when open, and be a force on the defense. He opens the floor for Sully too to give him room to work if he develop that jump shot. The stroke is there already.

I think we will be very lucky if Melo ends up that good.  He hasn't shown anything yet in college or the preseason this year to even remotely show that espcially offensively.  Not that Jordan is an offensive juggernaut.  Melo has no offensive game so why would you think he will grow into a consistant 18 foot jumper?  Sully yes he has shown good offensive potential and showed a pretty decnet jumper at OSU but not Melo...

Because he has the shooting stroke to work with. It's fluid and he's been able to hit it with his time in Syracuse.

He's offensively raw I get it, but he has the tools to develop. All he needs is the work and repetitions. He's also already a solid finisher and shown good hands.

And no one questions his great defensive instincts. And the way he dramatically improved from his freshman to sophomore year in college, it tells that he can improve to be an NBA level center, be it back up or starting or hoping on hope, an all star.