Blow It Up.

[scottwedman]

I hate to be defeatist, but with the chuckleheads in South Beach and the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.bags in La La Land on the upswing, I think our best move is to blow it up and rebuild around Rondo.  If we do it smart, we can have a real shot in two years.

1) Move KG to OKC for Ibaka, Sefalosha and Cook.

2) Move Pierce to GSW for David Lee.

3) Move Terry (at the deadline) to SAS for Blair + filler.

We will go straight into the toilet this year and get a very high lotto pick.  We will also have cap space and a defense rebounding minded core of Rondo/Ibaka/Lee, with Green as a stat filler at SF.  We could use the summer/free agency to trade for or draft a big scorer and we are right there, only younger and with more salary flexibility.

OK, OK, I'll put down the Jack and switch to water.  Nevermind.

[Redz]

KG would not be amused.

[dark_lord]

yeah, lets blow it up and suck for years and years....and *hope* we get young talent in the draft

even if we dont win a title, id much rather be competitive.  its far more entertaining than sucking for yrs and yrs.

[Celtics18]

No way that team gets into the lottery.  That's a playoff team.

[celtsfan84]

No way that team gets into the lottery.  That's a playoff team.

Yeah, no way a lineup of Rondo, Bradley, Jeff Green, David Lee, and Ibaka with Courtney Lee, Sefolosha, Brandon Bass, and Sullinger on the bench is a lottery team.  Especially not a team that would earn a very high lottery pick.  That team is probably an 8 seed at absolute worst.

[Lightskinsmurf]

Yeah, blow up a team that has a realistic shot at the title this year...

[manl_lui]

NO, 100% no, i rather compete every year, than to suck for numerous years without making playoffs. At that point Rondo might even bolt because we suck...so no

[dark_lord]

NO, 100% no, i rather compete every year, than to suck for numerous years without making playoffs. At that point Rondo might even bolt because we suck...so no

tp

[Tai]

Yea, haven't you learned from Orlando? They didn't build around Howard, so he wanted out. Now you want to potentially put Rondo in the same situation? Whatever, man. 

[pearljammer10]

Awful. this is a double face palm moment.

[scottwedman]

Yeah, blow up a team that has a realistic shot at the title this year...

Define "realistic"?

I think as currently constructed, C's are a top 4 team in the East.  Not top 2 - top 4. 

Rondo is at his prime and is a top-5 player in the league.

KG and Pierce are very effective - but no where near their primes.  Both are well over 35.

Green is coming off an injury that cost him an entire season and was a decent-but-nowhere-near-all-star caliber player before the injury.

Avery Brady is a promising young player . . . but he's not going to be the next Joe Dumars.

Our bench guys are solid and talented.

What does that add up to?  A couple of 45-52 win seasons and 2nd round exits, with an occasional foray into the ECF.  Until KG retires . . . and PP retires . . . without preparation and we become a perennial 41-50 win/5th-6th seed, stuck in the middle.  Not good enough to win it all, but too good to strike it rich in the lottery.

This franchise is about CHAMPIONSHIPS, not playoff appearances.  We got our last championship by putting ourselves into position to trade for two Hall-of-Famers, which we were only able to do because we had a lottery pick (Jeff Green) and other players recently drafted in the lottery (Telfair, Jefferson) and other 1st round drafted players to send them.

I don't want us to be in the Pacers//jazz mold of "teams-that-were-never-good-enough-to-get-over-the-hump."

We need to get to 18 banners before the Fakers!!!!!!!!!

[LarBrd33]

No way that team gets into the lottery.  That's a playoff team.

Yeah, no way a lineup of Rondo, Bradley, Jeff Green, David Lee, and Ibaka with Courtney Lee, Sefolosha, Brandon Bass, and Sullinger on the bench is a lottery team.  Especially not a team that would earn a very high lottery pick.  That team is probably an 8 seed at absolute worst.

i think that team is an 8 seed at the absolute best.  Probably not bad enough to bottom out, though. 

[scottwedman]

Yea, haven't you learned from Orlando? They didn't build around Howard, so he wanted out. Now you want to potentially put Rondo in the same situation? Whatever, man. 

Precisely the point - I WANT to build around Rondo!  The current team was built around KG/PP.  Which was great 5 years ago, but the situation has changed.

[Sketch5]

Yeah, blow up a team that has a realistic shot at the title this year...

Define "realistic"?

I think as currently constructed, C's are a top 4 team in the East.  Not top 2 - top 4. 

Rondo is at his prime and is a top-5 player in the league.

KG and Pierce are very effective - but no where near their primes.  Both are well over 35.

Green is coming off an injury that cost him an entire season and was a decent-but-nowhere-near-all-star caliber player before the injury.

Avery Brady is a promising young player . . . but he's not going to be the next Joe Dumars.

Our bench guys are solid and talented.

What does that add up to?  A couple of 45-52 win seasons and 2nd round exits, with an occasional foray into the ECF.  Until KG retires . . . and PP retires . . . without preparation and we become a perennial 41-50 win/5th-6th seed, stuck in the middle.  Not good enough to win it all, but too good to strike it rich in the lottery.

This franchise is about CHAMPIONSHIPS, not playoff appearances.  We got our last championship by putting ourselves into position to trade for two Hall-of-Famers, which we were only able to do because we had a lottery pick (Jeff Green) and other players recently drafted in the lottery (Telfair, Jefferson) and other 1st round drafted players to send them.

I don't want us to be in the Pacers//jazz mold of "teams-that-were-never-good-enough-to-get-over-the-hump."

We need to get to 18 banners before the Fakers!!!!!!!!!

So your saying if we blow it up we can rebuild and win a championship before the already rebuilt team of Kobe/Nash/Howard/Gasol?

Um.... No!

[syfy9]

Yeah, blow up a team that has a realistic shot at the title this year...

Define "realistic"?

I think as currently constructed, C's are a top 4 team in the East.  Not top 2 - top 4. 

Rondo is at his prime and is a top-5 player in the league.

KG and Pierce are very effective - but no where near their primes.  Both are well over 35.

Green is coming off an injury that cost him an entire season and was a decent-but-nowhere-near-all-star caliber player before the injury.

Avery Brady is a promising young player . . . but he's not going to be the next Joe Dumars.

Our bench guys are solid and talented.

What does that add up to?  A couple of 45-52 win seasons and 2nd round exits, with an occasional foray into the ECF.  Until KG retires . . . and PP retires . . . without preparation and we become a perennial 41-50 win/5th-6th seed, stuck in the middle.  Not good enough to win it all, but too good to strike it rich in the lottery.

This franchise is about CHAMPIONSHIPS, not playoff appearances.  We got our last championship by putting ourselves into position to trade for two Hall-of-Famers, which we were only able to do because we had a lottery pick (Jeff Green) and other players recently drafted in the lottery (Telfair, Jefferson) and other 1st round drafted players to send them.

I don't want us to be in the Pacers//jazz mold of "teams-that-were-never-good-enough-to-get-over-the-hump."

We need to get to 18 banners before the Fakers!!!!!!!!!

 
Last year we were a game away from the finals. We have a legit chance now because we've improved significantly.

Celtics are top 4, but they are also top 2. Name 2 other teams in the East that are better than the Celtics right now (besides the Heat).

We don't fit into the Pacers/Jazz mold because WE DID get over the hump, and we've proven that we could get over said hump.





I don't really want another 22 year odyssey, thank you very much.