2012 Patriots Football

[Neurotic Guy]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

Kolb has been playing cool and calm all game.  He missed a couple of throws but he has been great under pressure -- hitting a couple guys on the run and throwing the ball away at the correct times.  Outplaying Brady unfrotunately. 
But... I can't agree with your Brady declaration; he's had mediocre games before.  Brady played well last week -- I think I'd need to see a lot more bad Brady before I think he's on the 16th hole.

[Rondo2287]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

[mahonedog88]

It's just not happening today.  Can't get any flow to the offense.

And Wes Welker has really not started out this season on a high note...you could put alot of blame on him for that blocked punt considering he let that third down pass slip right through his hands which then led to the punt block on the very next play.

The play calling could definately be better today, the Hernandez loss was big, but this offense even without him should be able to put up more than 9 points through 3 quarters against this team.

But at the same time, you have to give the Cardinals defense bigtime credit, they've played great today.

[Rondo2287]

Ya, I think the pats just didn't come ready to play.  Plain and simple, they got caught flat footed to start never got it going

[Eja117]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

[Rondo2287]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

No thanks, I'll take a zero yard play on that every single time rather than exposing Brady to a hit.  Every single time.


Also crazy catch by Lloyd

[Rondo2287]

Again, terrible play call.  Terrible!

[Eja117]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

No thanks, I'll take a zero yard play on that every single time rather than exposing Brady to a hit.  Every single time.


Also crazy catch by Lloyd

Putting a skirt on your leader isn't a good strategy. Actually a skirt would be a pretty big upgrade in that case.

[mahonedog88]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

Agreed, thats been a frustrating aspect of Brady's game today.  There seemed to be a number of times where he had the opportunity to run the ball himself for some positive yards and he just wouldn't do it, even when there were times the open field looked wiiide open, still just force it somewhere or throw it away.

And going back to last season, he's been doing it more and more lately.

Could be a hint of age starting to catch up to him.

[Eja117]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

Agreed, thats been a frustrating aspect of Brady's game today.  There seemed to be a number of times where he had the opportunity to run the ball himself for some positive yards and he just wouldn't do it, even when there were times the open field looked wiiide open, still just force it somewhere or throw it away.

And going back to last season, he's been doing it more and more lately.

Could be a hint of age starting to catch up to him.

I'm not saying he can't slide and act like a coward at the end and all, but you don't have to be a coward the entire duration of the play.  If he's going to play that way the whole stuff about the injury and the supermodel and the kids won't go away. In the mean time you have Kolb out there acting like he'd punch his mother in the face for a yard and you see the difference

[Rondo2287]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

No thanks, I'll take a zero yard play on that every single time rather than exposing Brady to a hit.  Every single time.


Also crazy catch by Lloyd

Putting a skirt on your leader isn't a good strategy. Actually a skirt would be a pretty big upgrade in that case.

Putting a bullseye on your franchise player is a far worse strategy

[Eja117]

Kolb is keeping plays alive and Brady is ending them. I think we're in the final 2 years of the Brady ride. Next stop is sorta Brett Farveville if Brett hadn't been a total moron.

I don't think Brady has been the problem.  Play calling has been terrible on offense and the blocked punt.  Those are the reasons we are losing

Play calling doesn't explain dropped passes, overthrown balls, the QB holding onto the ball too long, and losing the battle on the line of scrimmage.

. I've only seen maybe 2 overthrown balls, how are the others Brady's fault.  And I just don't. Think Brady has held on to the ball to long.

when there are guys around and behind you and you have several yards of open space and your receivers are all covered tuck the ball and run. ...like Kolb

No thanks, I'll take a zero yard play on that every single time rather than exposing Brady to a hit.  Every single time.


Also crazy catch by Lloyd

Putting a skirt on your leader isn't a good strategy. Actually a skirt would be a pretty big upgrade in that case.

Putting a bullseye on your franchise player is a far worse strategy

Maybe we should try to put him in a straightjacket too so that nothing happens to his arms. Or just put him on the sideline. No. On the sideline you could still get hit by a meteorite. Keep him in the owner's box. Nothing bad could happen to him there......except an assassin. Ok. Just stay at home. Then he won't get hurt. It's football. He's already got a bullseye. He didn't get injured when he took off. He got injured in the pocket.

[dwlefty13]

Now Vince is hurt, tough day at the office

[Rondo2287]

So eja, you are willing to trade 5yards for a season of Ryan mallet?

[Eja117]

So eja, you are willing to trade 5yards for a season of Ryan mallet?

The way the offensive line is playing I don't think he's safe anywhere so I'd have to say yes.  HEL LO! You play to win the game. You play...to win..the game. You don't play to not get hurt (unless it's the preseason.) You play..to win..the game. They wear pads. They work out. Now go and play like you mean it. Not like Brady is playing. When Kolb comes over to the sideline you don't see Wisenhunt saying "Hey. Why'd you take off like that? What r u thinking? You coulda got hurt. We mighta had to deal with a back up."

In the mean time I saw a QB once take off and get hit so hard that his lung collapsed and he was basically lost for the season and we had to use the backup. That team won the Super Bowl and then two more, so I'm not so worried about losing a 35 year old Qb. I'm really not. I don't think the Colts are worse off right now. It's ok. Everything will work out if you play as hard as you can.