Doc takes Blame for Ray leavin

[Galeto]

I knew Ray Allen had fans but I didn't know they or one of them could be so obsessive about him.  I'm even on Allen's side in regard to his dissatisfaction about his usage as I personally can't stand the ball being in one guy's hands all the time when the results don't warrant it but man, I'm not unhappy at all that Ray's gone.

[davemonsterband]

You know what's going to be weird?

With Ray probably not starting for the Heat, his big rematch game with the Celtics - where he will be the focus of 90% of pre-game attention and discussion - is going to start with him sitting on the bench doing nothing, while ten other guys play basketball.

It's not quite the triumphant return you think he'd want, playing against the team that "insulted" him so much by moving him to the bench...

yea its going to be wierd

until hes in the last minutes of the game and hits a three pointer in rondo's face

In what bizzaro world does this happen? The ball is going to either james or wade. bosh is undoubtedly the third option to dump it to in the post.

You really think spoelstra is gonna risk angering his stars and create a mutany to appease ray allen?

As i said before your level of Basketball knowledge belongs in South Beach. The white sand seems to be messing with your brain brah. Baby ray ray plays for the heat now. Please follow his lead.

how do you know...

you act like Lebron has 0 respect for Allen

you act like Bosh and Wade dont know what ray can do.

Your the one bashing Lebron and Wade calling them divas etc.

All i know is there gonna get calls, and what I do now about Lebron is that he is unselfish. If he needs to pass it for a game winner to an open shooter your better believe it will be Ray Allen.

Lebron isn't unselfish in crunch time unless someone is WIDE open. The same as MJ with John Paxson when he hit that big shot to get their first one, he'll have to be WIDE open. Lebron jacks it. Wade wants to jack it. Ray Allen will get Shane Battier's shots in crunch time. He'll probably be in a wheelchair by then anyway.

[rayallen1934]

You know what's going to be weird?

With Ray probably not starting for the Heat, his big rematch game with the Celtics - where he will be the focus of 90% of pre-game attention and discussion - is going to start with him sitting on the bench doing nothing, while ten other guys play basketball.

It's not quite the triumphant return you think he'd want, playing against the team that "insulted" him so much by moving him to the bench...

yea its going to be wierd

until hes in the last minutes of the game and hits a three pointer in rondo's face

In what bizzaro world does this happen? The ball is going to either james or wade. bosh is undoubtedly the third option to dump it to in the post.

You really think spoelstra is gonna risk angering his stars and create a mutany to appease ray allen?

As i said before your level of Basketball knowledge belongs in South Beach. The white sand seems to be messing with your brain brah. Baby ray ray plays for the heat now. Please follow his lead.

how do you know...

you act like Lebron has 0 respect for Allen

you act like Bosh and Wade dont know what ray can do.

Your the one bashing Lebron and Wade calling them divas etc.

All i know is there gonna get calls, and what I do now about Lebron is that he is unselfish. If he needs to pass it for a game winner to an open shooter your better believe it will be Ray Allen.

Lebron isn't unselfish in crunch time unless someone is WIDE open. The same as MJ with John Paxson when he hit that big shot to get their first one, he'll have to be WIDE open. Lebron jacks it. Wade wants to jack it. Ray Allen will get Shane Battier's shots in crunch time. He'll probably be in a wheelchair by then anyway.

doubt it, Ray is always in shape.

but Paul Pierce was in a wheel chair already at 33

[FatjohnReturns]

Correct. Doc is to blame. Doc could have handeled it much better. The idea that Ray has declined is going to be dispelled early on next year. I wouldnt be suprised to see Ray starting with Wade at the point.

Doc hasnt checked Rondos attitude for too long. He really thinks he is orchestrating the offense with all that pointing and hand motion on the court. Who the heck does that??
Plus he has the basketball more than any other player in the league.

Which along with Rondos reputation is the reason why no other team values Rajon.

[Celts Fan 92]

Correct. Doc is to blame. Doc could have handeled it much better. The idea that Ray has declined is going to be dispelled early on next year. I wouldnt be suprised to see Ray starting with Wade at the point.

Doc hasnt checked Rondos attitude for too long. He really thinks he is orchestrating the offense with all that pointing and hand motion on the court. Who the heck does that??
Plus he has the basketball more than any other player in the league.

Which along with Rondos reputation is the reason why no other team values Rajon.

so wit da bolded we gon act like Rondo dont lead da league in assist nd had a 20+ game streak wit 10+ assist?? word? he just pointing not distributing at all huh? rofl

[FatjohnReturns]

oh yeah and If you polled the players who their vote for most high maintenace was Rondo would get top 5.  The guy is a total drama queen. 

Combine that with horrid free throw shooting and you have a potential amnesty candidate. I can think of so many better ways ti spend 10 MILLION A YEAR.

[Celts Fan 92]

You know what's going to be weird?

With Ray probably not starting for the Heat, his big rematch game with the Celtics - where he will be the focus of 90% of pre-game attention and discussion - is going to start with him sitting on the bench doing nothing, while ten other guys play basketball.

It's not quite the triumphant return you think he'd want, playing against the team that "insulted" him so much by moving him to the bench...

yea its going to be wierd

until hes in the last minutes of the game and hits a three pointer in rondo's face

In what bizzaro world does this happen? The ball is going to either james or wade. bosh is undoubtedly the third option to dump it to in the post.

You really think spoelstra is gonna risk angering his stars and create a mutany to appease ray allen?

As i said before your level of Basketball knowledge belongs in South Beach. The white sand seems to be messing with your brain brah. Baby ray ray plays for the heat now. Please follow his lead.

how do you know...

you act like Lebron has 0 respect for Allen

you act like Bosh and Wade dont know what ray can do.

Your the one bashing Lebron and Wade calling them divas etc.

All i know is there gonna get calls, and what I do now about Lebron is that he is unselfish. If he needs to pass it for a game winner to an open shooter your better believe it will be Ray Allen.

Lebron isn't unselfish in crunch time unless someone is WIDE open. The same as MJ with John Paxson when he hit that big shot to get their first one, he'll have to be WIDE open. Lebron jacks it. Wade wants to jack it. Ray Allen will get Shane Battier's shots in crunch time. He'll probably be in a wheelchair by then anyway.

doubt it, Ray is always in shape.

but Paul Pierce was in a wheel chair already at 33

in a wheelchair but still managed to lead our team in scorin? but yeen bashin Pierce tho rite? rofl

[KGs Knee]

Correct. Doc is to blame. Doc could have handeled it much better. The idea that Ray has declined is going to be dispelled early on next year. I wouldnt be suprised to see Ray starting with Wade at the point.

Doc hasnt checked Rondos attitude for too long. He really thinks he is orchestrating the offense with all that pointing and hand motion on the court. Who the heck does that??
Plus he has the basketball more than any other player in the league.

Which along with Rondos reputation is the reason why no other team values Rajon.

Guys like Nash, Rose & Paul have the ball every bit as much as Rondo.  Each of them should have the ball that much.  Paul, Rondo & Nash because of their ability to get people open shots.

[davemonsterband]

You know what's going to be weird?

With Ray probably not starting for the Heat, his big rematch game with the Celtics - where he will be the focus of 90% of pre-game attention and discussion - is going to start with him sitting on the bench doing nothing, while ten other guys play basketball.

It's not quite the triumphant return you think he'd want, playing against the team that "insulted" him so much by moving him to the bench...

yea its going to be wierd

until hes in the last minutes of the game and hits a three pointer in rondo's face

In what bizzaro world does this happen? The ball is going to either james or wade. bosh is undoubtedly the third option to dump it to in the post.

You really think spoelstra is gonna risk angering his stars and create a mutany to appease ray allen?

As i said before your level of Basketball knowledge belongs in South Beach. The white sand seems to be messing with your brain brah. Baby ray ray plays for the heat now. Please follow his lead.

how do you know...

you act like Lebron has 0 respect for Allen

you act like Bosh and Wade dont know what ray can do.

Your the one bashing Lebron and Wade calling them divas etc.

All i know is there gonna get calls, and what I do now about Lebron is that he is unselfish. If he needs to pass it for a game winner to an open shooter your better believe it will be Ray Allen.

Lebron isn't unselfish in crunch time unless someone is WIDE open. The same as MJ with John Paxson when he hit that big shot to get their first one, he'll have to be WIDE open. Lebron jacks it. Wade wants to jack it. Ray Allen will get Shane Battier's shots in crunch time. He'll probably be in a wheelchair by then anyway.

doubt it, Ray is always in shape.

but Paul Pierce was in a wheel chair already at 33

in a wheelchair but still managed to lead our team in scorin? but yeen bashin Pierce tho rite? rofl

By the end of the season, in a wheelchair, that's what I mean. I'll stay out of this argument now. Ray's a 3 million dollar role player. It's a waste of time.

[Lightskinsmurf]

NBA superstars don't accept loosing their skills gracefully. Ray can still shoot, but he finally became too slow, injury prone, predictable to handle a big role. Doc made the right choice.

And as classy as Ray is, he didn't say the right things on the way out the door. He couldn't. A superstar can't let go of what they once were. It goes against their DNA. He was in a no win situation - backed into a corner by his own ego.

What he did for Boston in 2007-2012 was awesome. But going forward the team is going to be better with Rondo remaining in control, and sharing the back court with Bradley, Terry, Lee, as well as a little Pierce and Green.

Well, to be honest, I think if Ray would've accepted a role as a sixth man the team would've been better.

I love Jet, but Ray would've been a better 6th man.

If he would've stayed, I imagine he would've probably finished some games.

You're basing that off absolutely nothing. Jet is proven. He has won 6th man of the year. Just because ray is a good starter doesn't mean he could be a good 6th man. Not everybody can play the bench role as good as they can a starter. Give me jet over ray playing 6th man hands down.

[Galeto]

You know what's going to be weird?

With Ray probably not starting for the Heat, his big rematch game with the Celtics - where he will be the focus of 90% of pre-game attention and discussion - is going to start with him sitting on the bench doing nothing, while ten other guys play basketball.

It's not quite the triumphant return you think he'd want, playing against the team that "insulted" him so much by moving him to the bench...

yea its going to be wierd

until hes in the last minutes of the game and hits a three pointer in rondo's face

In what bizzaro world does this happen? The ball is going to either james or wade. bosh is undoubtedly the third option to dump it to in the post.

You really think spoelstra is gonna risk angering his stars and create a mutany to appease ray allen?

As i said before your level of Basketball knowledge belongs in South Beach. The white sand seems to be messing with your brain brah. Baby ray ray plays for the heat now. Please follow his lead.

how do you know...

you act like Lebron has 0 respect for Allen

you act like Bosh and Wade dont know what ray can do.

Your the one bashing Lebron and Wade calling them divas etc.

All i know is there gonna get calls, and what I do now about Lebron is that he is unselfish. If he needs to pass it for a game winner to an open shooter your better believe it will be Ray Allen.

Lebron isn't unselfish in crunch time unless someone is WIDE open. The same as MJ with John Paxson when he hit that big shot to get their first one, he'll have to be WIDE open. Lebron jacks it. Wade wants to jack it. Ray Allen will get Shane Battier's shots in crunch time. He'll probably be in a wheelchair by then anyway.

doubt it, Ray is always in shape.

but Paul Pierce was in a wheel chair already at 33

Yep, sounds like a big fan of Pierce.  Indubitable.

I'd just like to say that Ray Allen got his freaking jock strap handed to him by Wally Szerzbiak in 2008.  Wally!  Which is no shame mind you because everybody knows Wally could defend his face off.

[Celts Fan 92]

oh yeah and If you polled the players who their vote for most high maintenace was Rondo would get top 5.  The guy is a total drama queen. 

Combine that with horrid free throw shooting and you have a potential amnesty candidate. I can think of so many better ways ti spend 10 MILLION A YEAR.

rondo a amnesty candidate wat was u in a coma during da playoffs? rofl keep trollin bruh

[Lightskinsmurf]

Didn't go through all the pages but i think its pretty clear why he left. His ego got in the way plain and simple and honestly who cares. We are a better team now with terry and LEE. I'm so over this ray allen thing. Hes been replaced its time to move on.

[FatjohnReturns]

Rondo is and has been the benefactor of playing with the big three. Rondo is not the reason for their success these last five yers. Ray sure doesnt feel like he needs Rondo to get him the ball.

[Lightskinsmurf]

Maybe the Celtics are just a better team than the Heat this year, Ray realized with Jet and AB and Rondo healthy...he wasn't going to start....PERIOD. 

So what  ...he can start for the Heat ,  but not the Celtics.

He is having trouble fading, getting old and admitting he isn't as fast or durable or good defensively as he once was.  Boo Hoo ...life sucks , then you die...

His ego is bigger than his BRAIN.

So Ray , if you are still such as stud as you think , how about manning up and meeting the challenge and winning your starting spot back, instead of sulking and running off with circus.... a childish , selfish act for a team that was willing to pay you more to stay and would have embraced your winning legacy .

Not DOC 's fault.... childish behavior on RAY ALLEN

hey tool, how about Ray being injured, how is he going to regain his spot back?

And did he really lose it, he was playing well, pierce was eating donuts and Garnett was way out of shape

mean while ray was dropping 25 points on the lakers while Pierce was dropping 3-18 nights


i thought celtic fans saw both sides of the coin and not  only there side.

Oh the irony