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Doc takes Blame for Ray leavin
« on: August 01, 2012, 11:12:54 AM »

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since it seemed slow as dirt nd drier then a cactus in da Arizona desert on here I thought i would drop wat Doc Rivers had to say bout Ray Allen leavin his most candid interview since da incident

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--doc-rivers-takes-blame-for-ray-allen-leaving-celtics-for-heat-.html

Re: Doc takes Blame for Ray leavin
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »

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since it seemed slow as dirt nd drier then a cactus in da Arizona desert on here I thought i would drop wat Doc Rivers had to say bout Ray Allen leavin his most candid interview since da incident

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--doc-rivers-takes-blame-for-ray-allen-leaving-celtics-for-heat-.html

Saw that earlier. I don't think I can have any more respect for Doc Rivers. Whether this is true and he's owning up for it, or he's covering for somebody else so that they can focus on winning this year, he did the right thing and the smart thing.

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 11:19:48 AM »

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Doc is being classy but it reads pretty strangely, he basically contradicts himself:

"And not starting [games] bothered Ray. I did examine it, and the conclusion I came back to was this: By doing the right things, we may have lost Ray. If I hadn't done that, I would've been a hypocrite. In the opening speech I make every year, I tell the team: 'Every decision I make is going to be what's good for the team, and it may not be what's good for the individual.' "



So he takes the blame but for doing the right thing.  I'm glad he said that because after reading the headline I was thinking "you did all the right things".  Rondo is the best player, he should control the offense.  Ray should be the 6th man.  If he isn't going to buy into the "ubuntu" philosophy that's not your fault Doc.

Just taking the high road here.  But what he ultimately says is "I take the blame, but I did the right thing and I wouldn't take any of it back."
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Re: Doc takes Blame for Ray leavin
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2012, 11:29:15 AM »

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Ray was @ Logan last night... I dropped friend off @ the American Airlines Departure & Ray was coming in to board. I believe he was going to Miami, because my friend was going to Antigua & the 1st connected bound stop was Miami. Hope he's gone for good. That sucker Ray!  ;D

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2012, 11:32:22 AM »

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im glad he kept it a hunnit nd said he was heated when Ray left still Ray's ego got in da way cuz obviously we was betta offensively nd defensively wit Bradley in da startin lineup

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2012, 12:02:57 PM »

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Great article, TP for the link.

Just taking the high road here.  But what he ultimately says is "I take the blame, but I did the right thing and I wouldn't take any of it back."
I don't think that this is really all that weird of a thing to say, it's basically true. He recognizes the reason that we lost that guy who used to play SG for us, is because of a conflict between player/team's needs. Doc chose the team, just like he said he would. He's a better man than I am, for getting over it after a mere week.

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I always tell my guys: If I'm wrong, hopefully I'm smart enough, or my staff, or one of you guys – because I do listen to you – will tell me that I'm wrong. But not one player ever told me, 'Hey, I don't think you should start Avery.'
Boom. Enjoy the sunshine in Miami.

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 12:06:06 PM »

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Great article, TP for the link.

Just taking the high road here.  But what he ultimately says is "I take the blame, but I did the right thing and I wouldn't take any of it back."
I don't think that this is really all that weird of a thing to say, it's basically true. He recognizes the reason that we lost that guy who used to play SG for us, is because of a conflict between player/team's needs. Doc chose the team, just like he said he would. He's a better man than I am, for getting over it after a mere week.

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I always tell my guys: If I'm wrong, hopefully I'm smart enough, or my staff, or one of you guys – because I do listen to you – will tell me that I'm wrong. But not one player ever told me, 'Hey, I don't think you should start Avery.'
Boom. Enjoy the sunshine in Miami.

I personally find it a bit odd to take the blame for something but then say you did nothing wrong at the same time.  I mean I guess it makes some sense but the two statements don't totally jive for me is all.

You're right though.  I guess maybe if he used the word "responsibility" instead of "blame" it'd fit better for me, but that's nitpicking I realize.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 12:13:38 PM »

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The biggest growth in Rivers as a coach is that he has taken responsibility for some team failures over the years Since Garnett and CO came on board.

Previously he blamed everybody but himself.

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 12:18:56 PM »

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Previously he blamed everybody but himself.

When did he do that? 

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 12:19:44 PM »

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The biggest growth in Rivers as a coach is that he has taken responsibility for some team failures over the years Since Garnett and CO came on board.

Previously he blamed everybody but himself.

I don't recall him doing this.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 12:20:44 PM »

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Previously he blamed everybody but himself.

When did he do that?
him nd Pierce aint see eye to eye at all before KG came thru lol

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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 12:27:06 PM »

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Great article, TP for the link.

Just taking the high road here.  But what he ultimately says is "I take the blame, but I did the right thing and I wouldn't take any of it back."
I don't think that this is really all that weird of a thing to say, it's basically true. He recognizes the reason that we lost that guy who used to play SG for us, is because of a conflict between player/team's needs. Doc chose the team, just like he said he would. He's a better man than I am, for getting over it after a mere week.

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I always tell my guys: If I'm wrong, hopefully I'm smart enough, or my staff, or one of you guys – because I do listen to you – will tell me that I'm wrong. But not one player ever told me, 'Hey, I don't think you should start Avery.'
Boom. Enjoy the sunshine in Miami.

I personally find it a bit odd to take the blame for something but then say you did nothing wrong at the same time.  I mean I guess it makes some sense but the two statements don't totally jive for me is all.

You're right though.  I guess maybe if he used the word "responsibility" instead of "blame" it'd fit better for me, but that's nitpicking I realize.

I see where Doc is going with it, though. After reading the article, everything makes a bit more sense.

As a leader, if things don't go well or if something goes wrong, etc, etc - the buck stops/starts with him - whether it's right or wrong.

He is taking responsibility for it all, which shows class.

Re: Doc takes Blame for Ray leavin
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2012, 12:28:29 PM »

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Previously he blamed everybody but himself.

When did he do that?

Did you listen to any of Rivers' postgame conferences pre-Garnett...Both with the Celtics and Magic?


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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2012, 12:31:28 PM »

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Doc did what he had to do. and the fact bradley didn't start vs the heat is the reason they didn't get to the finals.

I love ray..but this team is 5x better now than they were with him last year. JET, LEE, Bradley, and no more drama with rondo will only help

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2012, 12:32:39 PM »

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Previously he blamed everybody but himself.

When did he do that?

Did you listen to any of Rivers' postgame conferences pre-Garnett...Both with the Celtics and Magic?

I did.  And I can never once remember him throwing anyone else under the bus.